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kojay 12-25-2020 03:04 PM

Displaying the forum on mobile devices
 
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How do I fix large columns?

napy8gen 01-11-2021 09:48 PM

Check out my vb3 responsive style

kojay 01-12-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by napy8gen (Post 2605740)
Check out my vb3 responsive style

I like my style better.

Mark.B 01-13-2021 04:14 PM

vBulletin 3 is not a responsive style, so there isn't anything you can realistically do make it 'fit' on mobile devices. You would need a new responsive style.

The vB3 style was written in 2003 when nobody was using mobile devices to look at websites.

kojay 01-13-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 2605763)
vBulletin 3 is not a responsive style, so there isn't anything you can realistically do make it 'fit' on mobile devices. You would need a new responsive style.

The vB3 style was written in 2003 when nobody was using mobile devices to look at websites.

And what is the difference between an adaptive style and a responsive one? Is it really impossible to add code to make it adaptive?

Mark.B 01-13-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kojay (Post 2605764)
And what is the difference between an adaptive style and a responsive one? Is it really impossible to add code to make it adaptive?

It would need substantially rewriting. It really isn't that simple.

It would need a completely new style.

If it was that easy, everyone would have done it by now.

There are several responsive styles available from third parties and htese can subsequently be customised in the normal way.

kojay 01-14-2021 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 2605769)
It would need substantially rewriting. It really isn't that simple.

It would need a completely new style.

If it was that easy, everyone would have done it by now.

There are several responsive styles available from third parties and htese can subsequently be customised in the normal way.

I've dug deeper and can tell you where to look for the problem. This is related to the navbar. I would like to keep the standard style.

Mark.B 01-14-2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kojay (Post 2605770)
I've dug deeper and can tell you where to look for the problem. This is related to the navbar. I would like to keep the standard style.

As above, the vBulletin 3 style is not a responsive style. It was written some years before viewing websites on mobile devices was even a 'thing'.

You will need to rewrite the style or at least substaintial parts of it parts of it using Responsive Media Queries

You also need to be, for the most part, removing the tables that make up much of the vB3 design and replace them with divs, as tables don't generally work well in responsive designs.

None of this is a trivial task and requires knowledge of CSS, html and vBulletin code.

The alternative is to obtain a third party responsive style and customise that to match the look and feel of your existing style, which would be the easier option in my view. The essence of many styles is the colours and fonts and those are quite easy to change.

kojay 01-14-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 2605777)
As above, the vBulletin 3 style is not a responsive style. It was written some years before viewing websites on mobile devices was even a 'thing'.

You will need to rewrite the style or at least substaintial parts of it parts of it using Responsive Media Queries

You also need to be, for the most part, removing the tables that make up much of the vB3 design and replace them with divs, as tables don't generally work well in responsive designs.

None of this is a trivial task and requires knowledge of CSS, html and vBulletin code.

The alternative is to obtain a third party responsive style and customise that to match the look and feel of your existing style, which would be the easier option in my view. The essence of many styles is the colours and fonts and those are quite easy to change.

I don't like the responsive style of a third party. Since it still needs to be Russified, which is a difficult task.

In Omnibus 01-14-2021 01:43 PM

vBulletin 3 was originally coded 16 years ago when there weren't even such things as % or rem or em units used in styling. It was coded using transitional HTML 4.0 and CSS 2.0, both of which are years deprecated. Most of the "responsive" styles you will find are not responsive styles at all but rather hack attempts at making a fixed width style flex.

Mark's assessment is correct. You will need to write a style from the !DOCTYPE to the closing HTML tag if you want it to function like modern responsive themes. In order to make any existing theme function properly you would have to rewrite it to use HTML 5 and CSS 3 anyway.

kojay 01-14-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by In Omnibus (Post 2605781)
Mark's assessment is correct. You will need to write a style from the !DOCTYPE to the closing HTML tag if you want it to function like modern responsive themes. In order to make any existing theme function properly you would have to rewrite it to use HTML 5 and CSS 3 anyway.

I don't know much about programming. I don't think I can do it. And what napy8gen offers is not the same, and costs $60. How many hours you need to spend to change the style.

Mark.B 01-14-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kojay (Post 2605782)
I don't know much about programming. I don't think I can do it. And what napy8gen offers is not the same, and costs $60. How many hours you need to spend to change the style.

Your only option realistically is to pay someone to write a custom responsive style for you.

kojay 01-14-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 2605784)
Your only option realistically is to pay someone to write a custom responsive style for you.

Would you be able to do that?

Hostboard 01-15-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kojay (Post 2605785)
Would you be able to do that?

Contact iA1
He fully converted my theme and it passes ALL the Friendly Mobile Tests.

https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly

kojay 01-15-2021 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hostboard (Post 2605799)
Contact iA1
He fully converted my theme and it passes ALL the Friendly Mobile Tests.

https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly

Thanks. По времени это много заняло. I made a mistake, I'm sorry.

lange 02-17-2021 02:34 AM

Personally I'm happy with the style of napy8gen. I would say that his style is responsible enough to entice visitors to log in with their desktop PC. His style does the job by hiding certain parts for the mobile. This hiding suits my needs because it allowed me to totally personalize the non-mobile side.

Dr.CustUmz 02-17-2021 07:55 AM

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When youre questioning the 60$ range, something along the lines of my site would be in the 10s of thousands. (with over 80 custom made plugins, 143 completely re written templates (so far) and almost a year (so far) worth of work.

Custom themes can cost a pretty penny, depending on what you are after. There is no "actual price" you could pay 250 - 100,000 or more

It seems pre made options may be what you are looking for. And as said SultanThemes are the only real option for now ;)

I do a lot of custom work that is not to be re released, but I will be making certain things to sell to the mass, like the theme below, started way back in 2015 that is a simplistic mobile style based on the default theme that will be available soon (i will be updating it once get some free time) and I have not thought of a price point yet.

lange 02-17-2021 06:29 PM

I looked at the style on your site. There is certainly a lot of work behind your style. Unlike the responsive style of Sultanthemes, it is a style without tables with a lot of nested style sheets as in vB5. You really have to be an expert to customize a style with nested style sheets. It's not my case. I am not a coder. I prefer a style with tables and plugins with tables. For 3.8.11, I prefer to customize with tables. It's easier for me and I don't care about Google indexing.

I start working on my 5.6.4 license this weekend. Vb 3.8.11 is over for me, it will be an 'Entry forum' and vb 5.6.4 will be a sort of Premium forum. Both forums linked on the same domain name.

Thanks to everyone who helped me with 3.8.11.

kojay 04-18-2021 09:44 AM

I don't recommend it
napy8gen, takes money in advance.

lange 04-19-2021 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kojay (Post 2606895)
I don't recommend it
napy8gen, takes money in advance.

When you buy a vbulletin theme, you pay in advance. The same goes for a service. The number of years in business, his website, his experience in the past are the best criteria for selecting him.

kojay 04-19-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lange (Post 2606900)
When you buy a vbulletin theme, you pay in advance. The same goes for a service. The number of years in business, his website, his experience in the past are the best criteria for selecting him.

I just realized now that you need to pay money after work.

lange 04-23-2021 08:20 PM

You must have a budget to use a paid forum script and keep it alive especially in bandwidth if you use a lot of localhost HTML5 videos.


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