Question - Any reason vb.org hasn't upgraded?
 

Hey,

I haven't upgraded my sites - I like 3.8 - But because of spam Im thinking maybe upgrading would *hopefully* help.

Is there any reason vb.org hasnt upgraded?

They use a bunch of custom plugins which will have to be ported over to vBulletin 4.
Also I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is valid in this scenario.

vb.org actually in fact did just upgrade, they ran 3.6.x for the longest time and a couple weeks ago updated to 3.8.10, they stay with vb3 because it's the best (duh).

upgrading plugins... that is not the reason... they had to upgrade all sorts of plugins just to do the upgrade they just did. But I guess you'd have to hear that from an admin.

But IMO they stick with vb3 because its not bloated how vb4+ is, it's simple, its perfect. Regarding your spam issue install the plugin I linked to in your other thread, I was having the same issue, that product will block almost all spam =)

"Upgrading" doesn't improve spam problems.

Great forum for discussions.

I just went back to vb 3.8.10 Beta 1 and its so much better than the bloated newer versions. Besides I save alot of bandwidth with it

The main reason why I use vB4 is because vB3 makes extensively use of tables, which makes it harder to customize the template and to give it a unique look. I can usually tell if a forum is using vB3 by one quick look.

Yes, and with vB 4 you have elements with CSS classes which also makes customization much easier, whether you are adding CSS or adding a template hook you need on the fly. vB 4 stores more data in arrays, while vB 3 will return a wall of table related HTML...I much prefer the arrays.

Both version have their merits of course, but as a coder, I find vB 4.2.x to be easier to work with in many ways.

Dave, I think you are also correct about the reason vBorg has not upgrade to vB 4...porting the products/styles would be a nightmare. :)

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=234458

#8.

Big ole' sticky thread too, it's right at the top of the forum in bold red font "Sticky" plus not to mention the title includes Read First.

Don't mind me, my wife always "gets me good" more so than me pointing out sticky threads so laugh AT me not with me on that one eh? ;) :cool:

We upgraded to 3.8.10 (from 3.6.12) not long ago. That is the latest (vB3) version.

We have no plan or requirement to change from vB3.
It would be a massive task, not worth it when the site runs just fine on vB3.


(JFYI, it would make no difference to spam.)


The advice for upgrading is the same as its always been, only do it if there is a *real* need, not just for the sake of it.

Exactly now I feel about staying with VB 4.

you should upgrade to 5 and make it look like 3

HAHAHAHAHA!...

what is so funny?

Why on earth would we do something like that, it would be completely poinless.

Because the style is good.

So we would spend hundreds of hours converting all the modifications and tweaks to vB5 (not sure we could even do that) ..... hundeds of hours creating a style that looked like this, and numerous hours actually upgrading ... all for somthing that looks the same, and works [almost] the same, but likely runs slower.

I dont think anyone here is that insane. :erm:

vb5 is quick when it runs good.

For the sake of argument, let's assume speed isn't a factor...there are still these very important points:

sites need upgrades. You can let a site run for 57 million years just because it would take work to upgrade, but that site is outdated and needs to be upgraded.

Sites don't need "upgrades" just for sake of upgrading, either.

they need upgrades to keep up with the times

No they dont. Upgrading for the sake of it is a terrible plan.

That's a matter of subjective opinion. I'll stick to facts - I can name you many vBulletin boards - big ones - that are still running version 3.x and one that's even still on version 2.6!

It's silly to assume one must "upgrade" just for the sake of upgrading, and like Paul said it's also poor planning and strategy.

If the site is running smoothly and there are no compatibility issues with newer browsers and no security issues then I see no reason to upgrade.

What one is still running 2.6?

It's actually 2.2.9

http://forums.somethingawful.com/


You don't know that you don't know, is all.

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Those stats are impressive. The site runs fast too.

Greasy fast like vBulletin used to be.

It might be labelled 2.2.9, but I would image the code is heavily modified by now.

Hmmmm, kind of like vbulletin.org?

Not nearly as much as one might assume. It's not just a label.

Is the future of vbulletin bright or dark?

Start developing and uploading them killer must have products, and it can only get brighter. :eek::D:up:

It should be upgraded.

Actually, no, there are only three actual php file edits, and one js file edit (which can be got rid of, I just havent done so).
All the customisations are via the custom style (i.e. templates), plugins and three additional vb.org specific files


It ?

If you are talking about vb.org then no, it should not.
The only upgrade in the next 12 months is likely to be a switch to vB 3.8.11.

why were you running 3.6 and how did you get a 3.6 style to work on 3.8? Why didn't you upgrade to 3.7?

1. Read the forums and you will find the answer to your first question.

2. Why would we bother upgrading to 3.7 and not 3.8, that would be pointless.

TBH, Im not really sure why you seem so fixated on what version we run here.

Sorry, I had to....


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Umm, that's not really very hard to do at all.