Best video I have seen in a while
 

Best video I have seen in a while you got to watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwdfa3U9PtQ

These creatures aren't nearly as scary as Yahweh, but they are quite a bit more realistic:

Star Trek: The Borg - Life As You Know It Is Over

I posted the video not just because it was well made, but also to tell others we are in living in the last days and hope some will accept Jesus as their personal Savior. Making it as a joke will not help if you don't believe, then just don't reply this way you are doing one less sin.

Not to be obstinate, but I really didn't think the video was well-made...it consisted of still shots and dialogue.

But that aside, you've got to know that at a site with a lot of coders, there is going to be a substantially higher ratio of atheists than in the general population.

So you can't expect to post a video about which there is no compelling evidence for its truth, without leaving yourself open to some good-natured ribbing. And that is my intention...in a friendly and non-combative way.

As Christopher Hitchens so eloquently stated...that which is presented without evidence, can just as easily be dismissed without evidence. I believe he also said, "You are entitled to your own beliefs, but you are not entitled to your own facts." :)

Well, I don't need evidence or proof its called having faith. But think about this you say you don't believe in God, heaven, Jesus or hell now say tomorrow you die and you do end up in hell, then will you believe my point is why wait until you die before you will believe why not believe now trust in the Lord ask for salvation. I can't understand what has happened in someone's life that makes them not to believe do you think all this just came to be one day this universe and everything in it, well I say nothing can make nothing only God can make all that is here.

And what if you are wrong...and you find upon your death that you stand before another god who will condemn you for disbelief to an equally horrible fate as that described by the Bible as falling upon those who do not believe in its gods?

If the universe, as complex as it is, requires a creator, then what of your god, who would presumably be even more complex? Did a super-god create it, and did a hyper god create the super-god, etc.?

I know God is real and I am not wrong, I will pray for you

You believe your god is real...but you do not know anything without evidence. This is the essential difference between belief and fact. Knowledge comes from evidence, and nowhere else.

Give me some evidence for the existence for your god, and we can continue...otherwise I will remain firm in my skepticism base on rationality. This is the point at which all such discussions cease so far for me.

You seem to need some kind of proof before you will believe I dont and never have as I have faith.

Topic now closed

Yes, I need evidence before I believe things. It's just the way I am hard-wired. Faith is not a virtue...it is an excuse we give for believing things without a valid reason.

If your beliefs cannot stand scrutiny, why present them? Doesn't this tell you something?

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I call upon my fellow atheist brethren to stand tall and be counted. We are vilified by the masses and seen as people who have had something go wrong in our lives to disbelieve in a deity. This is just not true...we are decent folks who simply cannot believe things for which there is no evidence.

If your neighbors and friends already know you to be a good person, and then learn you are an atheist, they will be compelled to rethink the lies they have been dictated from the pulpit about us. We are the future...we are the inevitable...and until we come out of the closet, we will be hidden.

So, I call upon those who require evidence before belief, to state as much and be heard. :)

Mark, I can not "Like" your post until I like others...

I would have clicked the https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/images/cs...ttons/like.gif on all you post in this thread.

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Thank you, my brother!! We have to stand and be counted before we can make progress. :)

There's actual Atheists, and Militant Atheists who actually are only anti-Christian anti-Jew bigots, and use the "Atheist" name as a comfortable little shield.

I am Atheist, and respect others' beliefs. I do not make fun of, or attack others' beliefs. Their beliefs do not affront me, they do not threaten me, and they do not bother me. I live and let live, and do not proselytize or condemn. And when the faithful want to post videos or music about their faith, I leave them to it. That's called, "grace" and security in my own beliefs.

Not criticizing friend, just offering food for thought. We're not at war with the faithful.

When the "faithful" dictate what is taught in our science classrooms, then I have a great deal to say...we cannot allow magic to replace actual science...

"Actual science" becomes religion..... See how that works? Science is theoretical, not factual. Science starts with "we do not know" not, "We know and we can make models and fixed experiments to prove it."

Are you a Smithite, or a Nagelon? Do you even know the difference?

Are infants Atheists?

Either you require evidence or you do not for your beliefs. To which camp do you belong?

Ahh see? You didn't answer my questions.

"Evidence" can be quite subjective. It was settled climate science for example, that if we would only just move into the arid plains and plow up the soil, rain would follow because we would release the moisture the soil was holding! We did that, and no the rain didn't follow. Of course, they had tons of evidence to back up their hokum, lots of studies and consensus, but alas, the theory was totally debunked.

I have a very high standard of "evidence."

So, back to my questions.....

Evidence is factually based...it's not subjective at all. Give me any kind of evidence for belief in the supernatural and we continue...otherwise we are done...

Your refusal or more likely, inability to answer my questions tells me all I wanted to know. Your "atheism" is of the most infantile type, nothing more than a comfortable term to use while railing against the religious. You are actually more of a true believer than even the Pope. Because you fear the Deity, rail against the deity - you show you actually believe it exists!

And fail to realize that God and Gods, all deities in fact and all associated characters do in fact exist - in the human heart.

Just as any other fictional characters and stories Man has created be it Batman, Superman, or Spock. We create "God" in our own image, not the other way around - and if you realized that you would be no more threatened by "Jehovah" than you are of Jonah Hex!

You're transparent and laughable. But you're right about one thing - we are done.

Gonna sign up for Obamacare now, to get treated for the stitches in my side you just gave me.

Actual evidence, yes. Problem is, we manufacture crap and CALL it evidence, more and more...

What do you mean inability to answer? I will answer you all day long.

I simply refuse to believe that which presents no evidence...so sue me...LOL!!!

Give me some...any...evidence...can you? No...I thought so.....until then we are done...

I'll further add that I don't think it's all that bright for a adviser to be attacking the religious beliefs of the members. I dunno, maybe that's just my own beliefs. But it really looks bad.

That aside, let's talk about perceptions and "evidence." Do you think paramecium and amoebas are aware of our existence? Well, you might say, of course not. They're incapable of discerning that.

Really? How do you know what they can discern? But if they're incapable of discerning us, does it stand to reason that to some other more advanced being, we could be paramecium or amoeba, to them and equally incapable of discerning their existence? Incapable of seeing any evidence?

Food for thought.

It's either inability or refusal to answer..... My questions I posed earlier.

I mean, this is stupid right? Do you believe in other intelligent life out there in space? There's zero evidence to support that belief. Yet we don't go around attacking people who do believe it.

I'll Jet now and let you have the last word. That's all you really want anyway.

Food for thought?

Let's back up for a moment...we are talking about belief without evidence. Is this reasonable. No...it is superstition. I stand firmly on my conviction of evidence. Give me one shred of evidence...can you? No....you cannot...and until you can you are silent. I fail to see what is so difficult about this...

Telling a member to stfu and all you said to me is not what an adviser should be doing.
All I wanted was to post a video that I thought interesting you did not have to reply to it and as adviser it looks bad as you are representing vb and then kept attacking my beliefs can you not see how wrong this is you don't see me attacking yours. I would like this post either deleted or locked before someone says something you can't take back.

Admin please lock or delete this post

I apologize for my language...I just don't like proselytizing. :)

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Science is peer reviewed and falsifiable...religion is not.

Children must be indoctrinated to become religious.

This is not a religion forum. What did you expect as replies? You brought this on yourself.
Every one has their own perspectives on things and their own opinion.

This is the problem with organized religion. The Christians and the Muslims think if you don't believe like they do then you're an infidel. The Muslims still execute non believers while the Christians don't. But the Christians have their own way of pushing non believers buttons. As you have done in this thread.

"I'm not here to live up to your expectations, nor are you here to live up to mine.
You do your thing, and I'll do mine."

The only correct religion is Klingon. Kahless will return one day, until then do your best to be among the honored dead else you wind up with this dude.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2016/01/23.jpg

With that, thread closed.

FYI, checking Google this site has a history of Religious threads that ended peacefully, but no one made personal insults, no one took standard internet chatter personally, and no one requested the thread they started be closed when they were done posting.

Advisors are perfectly entitled to post their own views, as are staff, and you are in no position to complain otherwise, if you dont like it, you know where the exit is.