Times are changing
 

I have noticed a few vb.com and vb.org staff members have retired. Times are changing. Vbulletin 6 will probably be a lot different than what we know.

I have noticed that too. i just hope the changes with the next version are positive.

Let's hope they at least get vbulletin 5 into shape first. :up:

HEAR HEAR!

Yeah, hope something comes good with it soon. :)

Like a decent plugin hook system!!!!! This is why there aren't many mods listed in the vB5 section on here too by the way :p.

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-10333

"If you build it they will come" - Field Of Dreams
"If you vote for it, they might include it" - Michael Miller Jr

Thats life for you, over the years people come, people go.

The first question should probably be, will there be a vBulletin 6 ?

It's really ridiculous that after nearly 2 years, none of the developers have replied to that issue in the tracker nor have they made an official statement regarding the hooks somewhere that gives us some hope?

Hope? two years with no replies looks like a official No! to me.

Does that really surprise you Dave?

Worst part is they specifically removed it... what's there for use now in vB5 is severely limited too.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....3&postcount=22

I'd dare say it was intentional, that's my personal opinion due to:
1) Cloud cloud cloud, all I see is them promoting the cloud (why though...)
2) Due to 30,000+ vBulletin sites being hacked not too long ago via drum roll please... that's right you guessed it via the plugin system and/or help from the install exploit(or a third-party plugin granting access to utilize the overall plugin system to further exploit). If no plugin/hook system exists in vB5 then it can't be (insert expletive here) (insert dastardly male deed here) up the wazoo now can it?

That's just my thoughts on it, seems to me they cut off their nose to spite their face :p but hey what do I know - My Names Mel Gibson and this is my conspiracy theory ;). Edit: Only and I mean ONLY from some weird oddball over security conscious perspective should this be considered ok, to everyone else it simply removed the ability to have your site customized outside the box... vB5 "modification-wise" is like the kid on the bicycle in the Ally Bank commercial where she's given a brand new bike but confined to a box of red tape and told she can only ride it within the box - anyone who remembers those commercials knows it was silly and there wasn't much room to move let alone ride - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWo-vDVajns

I hope there is a vbulletin 6.

Please god no

why not?

I can see this thread getting closed in the very near future. lol

I think that vbulletin 6 should be a complete rewrite with the same looks as vbulletin 5, but with the features of vbulletin 4 and more

You're not asking for much.......piece of cake, I'm sure they'll get right on it. :)

That's why I like facebook more than forums :D :D

Since we are now officially off the rails, we used facebook as a forum for 3 months before I couldn't handle it anymore and started a forum. Forums are for discussions, facebook is for bragging, worthless banter, and making Mark Zukerberg filthy rich. I shouldn't complain though, I got six new members yesterday from a link to my site on Facebook.:D:up:.

Back on the rails: There will always be a demand for forum software. The software will evolve. There may be changes in staff, developers, and users, but major changes in software is sometimes necessary OR not but the people in charge have the right to do whatever they want with it for whatever reason they want. As with any for profit business, it's all about the money, and in the end, that's all that matters.

Why would they ? Jira is not a forum. Developers wont generally comment in a Jira unless they are working on it.

There have been several statements, all pretty much along the same lines.
The chances of php hooks being added (back) are very slim, there isnt much point in giving false hope.

You are over thinking things way too much, cloud didnt exist when hooks were removed.
I have no idea where you get a figure of "30,000+ sites hacked" from, but I seriously doubt that many even exist, let alone got hacked.

Hooks were removed in May 2012, and obviouly it was decided before that, pretty much since vB5 development was started afaik.

Fun fact : The replacement 'Extensions' were originally called API Filters.

Well that's apparent Paul, "of course" being my only defense :p.

On a serious note though, would be nice to see them back and no clue why they were removed to begin with, if they had a valid reason I'd love to hear it.