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Max Taxable 02-03-2015 04:29 AM

It's the eennnd of the spaaaam as we know it. And I feeeel fiiiiine...
 
For the last eight days I've been testing a super anti-spam plugin that's so far been 100% effective, stopping over 2100 spam registrations while allowing zero to get registered, and interfering with exactly zero legitimate humans. In fact the human can't tell it's even there.

And it's been working all on its own, stand alone. ALL other spam protection native and not, off. NO help at all.

Can't tell you what it is or how it works though. But I can tell you it is impossible for this plugin to block a legitimate human, and impossible for the botnet administrators and spam program coders to defeat. Ever. It cannot be defeated.

And it's not just on my site either, it's been running even longer, stand alone, on another site too. And been 100 percent effective there as well, catching another 1,775 spam registration attempts.

It also 100% guaranteed, stops the occasional human spammer too. And without them even knowing it.

In the coming weeks this plugin will be available here at vBorg. Prepare to be completely mind blown by its effectiveness and be stunned by its simplicity. It really is one of those "why didn't I think of that" type things. It is genius in its execution, and deadly in its effectiveness.

I believe it is the first true advancement in vBulletin spam protection in the last decade. It makes obsolete every spam protection currently available - including the timers, puzzles, captchas, Q&As, everything. None of it is needed at all, with this plugin installed. You can even turn off all native vB protection.

It's a truly exciting and innovative development.

Stay tuned - just thought I'd share.

Hell's coming....

CAG CheechDogg 02-03-2015 06:33 AM

Say wHaaaaaaaaaaaA !!!! :eek:

RichieBoy67 02-03-2015 09:39 AM

What about all the poor spammers you will put out of work? :D

Dave 02-03-2015 09:43 AM

Just a guess, is it JavaScript based? Since most bots don't have a JavaScript engine it will be hard for bots to do calculations.

ozzy47 02-03-2015 09:49 AM

Nope, no javascript.

Replicant 02-03-2015 11:14 AM

Thanks for this post. No I've got the Grateful dead stuck in my head......

CharlieDelta 02-03-2015 01:39 PM

Wow that is a LOT of guarantees. I am very intrigued.

ForceHSS 02-03-2015 02:12 PM

Have a feeling ozzy made it

ozzy47 02-03-2015 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535914)
Have a feeling ozzy made it

Lil ole me?? :p

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 05:58 PM

Oh and I forgot to mention - I am taking applications for Beta Testers. No timeline yet on when the testing starts, but PM me a link to your site and a list of all the anti-spam stuff you use, for consideration.

Also forgot to mention - there have been no conflicts with other mods found as yet. And in fact the way this plugin is designed, conflicts seem highly unlikely. So you can run all your other anti-spam stuff along with this new one, and have no problems. I've done that in my testing as well.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
Just a guess, is it JavaScript based? Since most bots don't have a JavaScript engine it will be hard for bots to do calculations.

No but.... In order to have any hope of defeating this, (There actually isn't any) they would have to soooo radically change their approach it would amount to almost forgetting totally about automation.
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieDelta (Post 2535913)
Wow that is a LOT of guarantees. I am very intrigued.

When you see what it is you will just slap your forehead in realization of how all those guarantees can be made. It's that bloody obvious.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535914)
Have a feeling ozzy made it

This has been well over a year in the making, I have been testing parts of it for about that long. Now it's all being brought together, collaboration style. The Main coder and the guy doing all the work, toting most of the water is indeed Mr. Prolific and really is THE man to produce this product. Remember the adage, "Success has many fathers."

ForceHSS 02-03-2015 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2535946)
Oh and I forgot to mention - I am taking applications for Beta Testers. No timeline yet on when the testing starts, but PM me a link to your site and a list of all the anti-spam stuff you use, for consideration.

Also forgot to mention - there have been no conflicts with other mods found as yet. And in fact the way this plugin is designed, conflicts seem highly unlikely. So you can run all your other anti-spam stuff along with this new one, and have no problems. I've done that in my testing as well.No but.... In order to have any hope of defeating this, (There actually isn't any) they would have to soooo radically change their approach it would amount to almost forgetting totally about automation.When you see what it is you will just slap your forehead in realization of how all those guarantees can be made. It's that bloody obvious.This has been well over a year in the making, I have been testing parts of it for about that long. Now it's all being brought together, collaboration style. The Main coder and the guy doing all the work, toting most of the water is indeed Mr. Prolific and really is THE man to produce this product. Remember the adage, "Success has many fathers."

I never get spam with what I run now

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535959)
I never get spam with what I run now

I didn't either, before this.

ForceHSS 02-03-2015 06:21 PM

Then why use something that is not needed

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535965)
Then why use something that is not needed

It's needed. You shall see.

ForceHSS 02-03-2015 06:28 PM

My site never allows a spammer to join ever and only real members can so why use it. Its hard to know if it will be needed as what I have works 100% now

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535970)
My site never allows a spammer to join ever and only real members can so why use it. Its hard to know if it will be needed as what I have works 100% now

I think you miss the point. No one's asserted that YOU need it. :D

I don't need it either but I prefer it. It's one product that can stand totally alone and makes all other anti-spam solutions - no matter what they are - obsolete and superfluous.

ForceHSS 02-03-2015 06:34 PM

Once it comes out here will give it a try. Who will be posting it

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2535974)
Once it comes out here will give it a try. Who will be posting it

Hide and watch. We have some good time of Beta testing on multiple sites first.:D

Paul M 02-03-2015 11:09 PM

Lots of big claims to live up to there, we shall see :cool:

Max Taxable 02-03-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2536011)
Lots of big claims to live up to there, we shall see :cool:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2015/02/18.jpg

I smell a great candidate for Beta testing.:D

Plugin is well up over 4,000 wins now, against zero negative outcomes.

Zachery 02-04-2015 01:35 AM

Every single custom/unique thing you do to your site will almost always be nearly 100% effective. Lets see it deployed on every single vBulletin site, and you can bet your butt that it'll be broken.

This isn't to advocate that you should stop working on your resources to stop spam, just that nothing is 100% effective forever.

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2536035)
Every single custom/unique thing you do to your site will almost always be nearly 100% effective. Lets see it deployed on every single vBulletin site, and you can bet your butt that it'll be broken.

This isn't to advocate that you should stop working on your resources to stop spam, just that nothing is 100% effective forever.

Yep that's the old defeatist saw. And something we pretty much, all have heard. There's a few of us though who don't take much stock in it, don't consider it to be valid conventional wisdom.

When you see this you will understand why it won't be broken. They would have to just drop automation, to have any hope of it. And even then, there's no hope.

Wanna be a tester?

Paul M 02-04-2015 02:00 PM

Quote:

They would have to just drop automation
A lot dont use automation.

Like has been said, lots of big promises, but so far its just words, we'll see when it comes out.

Btw, no, I dont want to be a tester. :)

Dave 02-04-2015 02:04 PM

Do you physically send a confirmation code on a postcard or something? Thank you for creating an account, please wait 1-2 weeks for our postcard which contains the confirmation code to activate your account!

:D

ozzy47 02-04-2015 02:52 PM

No actually we send a electrical charge to their keyboard to shock them, and if they don't reply back with WTF was that, then we know they are a bot. :p

TheAdminMarket 02-04-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2536037)
When you see this you will understand why it won't be broken.

Sometimes big/complected problems have a so easy solution to solve, that nobody thought to try it. I wish you succeess to your try.

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 2536133)
A lot dont use automation.

The human spammer is becoming more and more rare. Most all spam out there is automated. In fact alot of the human ones are using automation programs, to do their work.

But, this plugin takes care of the human spammers as well - and they won't even know it.

I've been using part of this for over a year Paul, it even works for the unregistered guest - allowing me to enable guest posting and still get, no spam at all.
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTheGreek (Post 2536142)
Sometimes big/complected problems have a so easy solution to solve, that nobody thought to try it. I wish you succeess to your try.

Thanks! You're gonna love this plugin even if you don't need it.

But sometimes the big/complicated problems are simply overrated. They're not big or complicated at all.:D

ForceHSS 02-04-2015 06:27 PM

If it is good as you say maybe it can be installed on this site I know it needs it

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2536154)
If it is good as you say maybe it can be installed on this site I know it needs it

vBorg has the Force. The Force is with them....

TheAdminMarket 02-04-2015 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2536153)
They're not big or complicated at all.:D

Yes, exactly. This is what I had in mind to say. For our complicated mind they appear big and complicated while they aren't.

Similar to this one below. I'll be glad to know that you'll do something like this for spam problems :) It was something so complicated for all. But finally the solution was so simple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTheGreek (Post 2536156)
Yes, exactly. This is what I had in mind to say. For our complicated mind they appear big and complicated while they aren't.

Similar to this one below. I'll be glad to know that you'll do something like this for spam problems :) It was something so complicated for all. But finally the solution was so simple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

Ha! This is exactly how I solved the unsolvable problem, of a big brother ten years older, who when the ice cream man was coming would hold a quarter in his hand and not let you have it unless you snatched it out of his hand, taken from the old "Kung Fu" TV series where the master would do this, with a pebble. When the student was able to snatch the pebble, he was ready to graduate.

I never could snatch the quarter. He was just too fast and the pressure of the ice cream truck passing by was just too great for the 6 year old I was.

Then one day, the solution came to me - slap the frikkin thing out of his hand! My solution to the Gordian Knot earned me ice cream - but also, a beating at the hands of the defeated brother.

Additionally:

SNOWMAN: Bo, why we doin' this? They said it couldn't be done!
BANDIT: That's the reason son!

ForceHSS 02-04-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2536155)
vBorg has the Force. The Force is with them....

If your saying this site has this plugin then it is not working as spammers are still posting on here

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2536161)
If your saying this site has this plugin then it is not working as spammers are still posting on here

No, I am saying they have The Force. Therefore they don't need any plugins.

Star Wars reference?

This plugin's body count currently stands at 4,436 on the two sites it's protecting, by the way.

ForceHSS 02-04-2015 07:37 PM

What sites are they and can the info be seen in the whats going on stats

ozzy47 02-04-2015 07:48 PM

Yes, you can see the count at OzzModz in the WGO area, once logged in.

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2536168)
What sites are they and can the info be seen in the whats going on stats

It's protecting two vBorg board of the month winners!:D

http://dallascowboysuniverse.com

And of course

http://ozzmodz.com

ForceHSS 02-04-2015 08:52 PM

The one on ozzy site is this the only protection you have

ozzy47 02-04-2015 09:51 PM

Yes, I am only running just that mod, and have been for about a month.

Max Taxable 02-04-2015 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2536176)
The one on ozzy site is this the only protection you have

Same for both.

ForceHSS 02-04-2015 11:51 PM

So when will it be posted here so we can try it


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