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CarpCharacin 02-01-2015 08:50 PM

I do not like it when members on my site use abbreviations
 
For some reason, it makes me mad. I had to edit a few posts today on my site to fix abbreviations. I think it is kind of annoying when forum members use abbreviations.

Paul M 02-01-2015 09:32 PM

WTF ?

IMO, its fine, YMMV.

CarpCharacin 02-01-2015 09:40 PM

i am ok with stuff like lol on my forum but what i mean is when members say stuff like "ur" "Y"

ForceHSS 02-01-2015 09:41 PM

Teens like to use things like that don't let it get to you

Paul M 02-01-2015 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2535623)
i am ok with stuff like lol on my forum but what i mean is when members say stuff like "ur" "Y"

k.

What you mean is txt spk. You shuld probably have made that clearer. ;)

CarpCharacin 02-01-2015 10:21 PM

I have now added to the TOS. Hopefully the members finally realize that it is not allowed.

Replicant 02-01-2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2535628)
I have now added to the TOS. Hopefully the members finally realize that it is not allowed.

What the hell's a TOS? :D

CarpCharacin 02-01-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2535630)
What the hell's a TOS? :D

Terms of Service

CAG CheechDogg 02-02-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2535628)
I have now added to the TOS. Hopefully the members finally realize that it is not allowed.

Wow ! (yer') willing to risk losing members or upsetting members because (U) don't like people using shorthand texts on (yer') forums? lol ...GTFOH !!!! lol :D

Simon Lloyd 02-02-2015 04:11 PM

You could always add a plugin with a simple replace for all those that get up your nose :)

Dave 02-02-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Lloyd (Post 2535746)
You could always add a plugin with a simple replace for all those that get up your nose :)

You can already do that with the Replacement Variable Manager in vBulletin. :)

CAG CheechDogg 02-02-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 2535747)
You can already do that with the Replacement Variable Manager in vBulletin. :)


So how do you that if say I wanted for the acronym (CAG) always be capitalized if someone posted (cag) but it not affect a word like "cage" or "bird cage" or any other word that might have "cag" in it? ...

I ask because I used the replacement variable manager for this and it changed any word that had "cag" to "CAG" ...so the word cage became "CAGe" ...

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Oh one other thing .... it also affects file extensions as well ...most of my images have cag in them so it breaks images as well lol ...

Simon Lloyd 02-02-2015 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAG CheechDogg (Post 2535748)
So how do you that if say I wanted for the acronym (CAG) always be capitalized if someone posted (cag) but it not affect a word like "cage" or "bird cage" or any other word that might have "cag" in it? ...

I ask because I used the replacement variable manager for this and it changed any word that had "cag" to "CAG" ...so the word cage became "CAGe" ...

--------------- Added [DATE]1422901449[/DATE] at [TIME]1422901449[/TIME] ---------------

Oh one other thing .... it also affects file extensions as well ...most of my images have cag in them so it breaks images as well lol ...

You'd have to use REGEX and get complicated with looking forward and back to check that "cag" is indeed a word on its own then replace it :)

CAG CheechDogg 02-02-2015 04:47 PM

Yeah I know lol ...I used the following two in plugins but it still didn't work as it should:

Code:

$find = array(
'cag',
'Cag', 
);

$replace = array(
'CAG',
'CAG',
);

$this->post['message'] = str_ireplace($find, $replace, $this->post['message']);


and


Code:

$word = array( 
'/\cag\b/', 
'/\Cag\b/' 
); 

$changedword = 'CAG'; 

$post['message'] = preg_replace($word, $changedword, $post['message']);

I used postbit_display_complete on both and it still changed it in words that had "cag" and also in images lol ... So I gave up :)

Replicant 02-02-2015 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAG CheechDogg (Post 2535755)
[CODE]
'/\cag\b/',
'/\Cag\b/'


try '/cag(?= )/'

kh99 02-02-2015 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 2535747)
You can already do that with the Replacement Variable Manager in vBulletin. :)

You can, but I'd be careful about using that. As CAG mentioned, it does a replacement on the entire html document, so if you replace something that happens to appear in an html tag for example, you can break things.

CAG CheechDogg 02-02-2015 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2535765)
try '/cag(?= )/'

Ok I will check this out and see what it does ...ty ...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2535765)
try '/cag(?= )/'

Good stuff my my Man this is working perfectly so far ... THANK YOU !!

Replicant 02-03-2015 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAG CheechDogg (Post 2535792)
Ok I will check this out and see what it does ...ty ...

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Good stuff my my Man this is working perfectly so far ... THANK YOU !!

Glad I could help.:up:

TheAdminMarket 02-03-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarpCharacin (Post 2535615)
For some reason, it makes me mad. I had to edit a few posts today on my site to fix abbreviations. I think it is kind of annoying when forum members use abbreviations.

At least you can understand what that abbreviations means. The real problem is on international sites (just like this), when the native English members (much more if they belong to Staff) are posting with abbreviations or local sayings.

It tooks me months (actually I had to ask someone) to understand the meaning of "My two cents" or similar sayings. I was reading "OP" and thought that it means Operator while latest someone told me that means "Original Poster".

Especially when you reply to someone that you know that English is not his tongue, everyone must tries to use simple words and phrases. Forums (at all, not just here), it's not a place to promote your English level.

Addition: My father who died almost 30 years ago was Professor at Univercity. Still remember some words of him. "Educated is not that one who knows a lot, but that one who can talk to a farmer like a farmer, to a child like a child etc ".

cellarius 02-05-2015 09:49 AM

Not disputing your point at all. Anyway:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTheGreek (Post 2535941)
It tooks me months (actually I had to ask someone) to understand the meaning of "My two cents"

Doing a simple google search brings up Wikipedia and the Urban Dictionary as results #1 and #2. Both explain it pretty well. And there's a ton of lists that explain usenet/internet acronyms like OP.

Quote:

Especially when you reply to someone that you know that English is not his tongue, everyone must tries to use simple words and phrases. Forums (at all, not just here), it's not a place to promote your English level.
On the other hand, I always saw sites such as this as a pretty entertaining way to improve my everyday english, pick up idioms and so on.

TheAdminMarket 02-05-2015 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536290)
Not disputing your point at all. Anyway:
Doing a simple google search brings up Wikipedia and the Urban Dictionary as results #1 and #2. Both explain it pretty well. And there's a ton of lists that explain usenet/internet acronyms like OP.

Depends on how much available time you've. Since 4 Sep 2004 (so 10+ years), I'm working non stop, everyday, including weekends and holidays for at least 14 hours a day. So, I don't think that I've even a free minute for such actions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536290)
On the other hand, I always saw sites such as this as a pretty entertaining way to improve my everyday english, pick up idioms and so on.

That's very good and I was doing it when I was 20.... 30.... 40... even 50. But now being on my 59 there is no courage. And what you read now is what I learned alone. Reading dictionaries. Yes dictionaries. At 1960-1970 being a child of a 5 children family no money for Foreign language Institutes. So I count as miracle even the fact that I can talk and understand the basics. But really no power for learning more, anything, not just English.

cellarius 02-06-2015 05:49 AM

Well, I really think it is not that much "slang" or acronyms used around here that it would really impact the time budget. But I really salute your learning english as an autodidact - you speak/write it really well. At least if someone who picked it up at school and original version videos as third language can tell...

TheAdminMarket 02-06-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536410)
But I really salute your learning english as an autodidact - you speak/write it really well....

Really thank you for what you wrote. And is not only English. I learned coding on the same way. Reading books. And it was much more difficult as the only books available (talking for 1984) were in English so I had by hand my English dictionary and first I had to try to understand what the phrase means in Greek and then try to test the examples.

Dammit money :(

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536410)
.....acronyms (ακρωνύμια)... autodidactl (αυτοδίδακτος)...

...lol.... Well this was my only help. That I found many Greek words in lessons.

Replicant 02-06-2015 07:11 PM

That's actually funny to me, because books in english about programming are Greek to me.....:)

TheAdminMarket 02-07-2015 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2536477)
That's actually funny to me, because books in english about programming are Greek to me.....:)

Ahahahahaha......... You made my day my dear. And didn't awoke up with good mood. Thank you for making me laugh:)

HM666 02-10-2015 04:19 AM

@NickTheGreek - I think your English is pretty good. A few glitches & misspellings here and there but that is to be expected. :)

@cellarius - I'm actually VERY SLOWLY learning German and I mean S-L-O-W-L-Y LOL.

cellarius 02-10-2015 04:41 AM

No - you probably mean L-A-N-G-S-A-M ;)

HM666 02-10-2015 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536831)
No - you probably mean L-A-N-G-S-A-M ;)

LOL JA! Exactly!

TheAdminMarket 02-10-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2536831)
No - you probably mean L-A-N-G-S-A-M ;)

"Wir lernen Deutsch mit Hilfe von Bilde und Saitplatten und lernen..." (or something like this :)

I was 12yo when for first time I tried to learn Deutsch. Visafone or Dictafone was the name of that method. Pitty that I had nobody to help me and Deutsch is a difficult language even if in Grammar looks like Greek.

Replicant 02-10-2015 04:26 PM

I spent 9 months in Germany in 1986 and learned NONE of the language, but the girl I hooked up with who spoke little English was speaking fluently in 4 months. Of course, my English is the Redneck dialect ;)

TheAdminMarket 02-10-2015 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2536880)
I spent 9 months in Germany in 1986 and learned NONE of the language, but the girl I hooked up with who spoke little English was speaking fluently in 4 months. Of course, my English is the Redneck dialect ;)

....hahahaha...... My dear it's the second time that you make me laugh :) ... Seens that I must follow you. :D

Same happen to me, for longer time. From 2003 to 2005 I was living in Vienna, and 3 times I started German lessons but for different reasons I had to stop them. 3 times I lost in total 900 Euros for the upfront payments.

So the only that I learned were "Gruss God" and "Busi" ... But my g/f talks Greek fluently.:D

Dave 02-10-2015 05:02 PM

Heh, good thing German is relatively easy as a Dutch person. Dutch and German are very alike.
Also nice topic hijack.

cellarius 02-10-2015 06:07 PM

Sadly, Greek is not among the languages I picked up. Just the basics. Jamas!

Sadly (hehe), the one time I went to Greece (three weeks in 1997, so long ago...), I went with my girfriend. So, no chance to pick up a girl, ahm, the language properly :D

HM666 02-10-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant (Post 2536880)
I spent 9 months in Germany in 1986 and learned NONE of the language, but the girl I hooked up with who spoke little English was speaking fluently in 4 months. Of course, my English is the Redneck dialect ;)

She learn your English or...... lol


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