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katie hunter 05-13-2014 03:12 PM

How to improve Member's list
 
I've added this to Jira, i personally think members list should take a new approach rather then columns being used every where on the forum.

http://i.imgur.com/6MM78HN.jpg

Jira http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2016/07/3.jpg

Other Jira Tickets

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blog redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album) = needs votes
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Discovery a whole new set of features - Feeds)

Lynne 05-13-2014 05:31 PM

Nice. Voted. :)

Spangle 05-13-2014 05:43 PM

Nice touch ..Voted +1

cellarius 05-13-2014 06:26 PM

Nice - shows what could (have) be(en)

katie hunter 05-13-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2497640)
Nice - shows what could (have) be(en)

It is on the list for a change so it can be done. I've been sending few tickets to Jira to renovate few pages like blogs and articles, each of these pages should be unique and act on its own rather than using the same forum style

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blog redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Discovery a whole new set of features - Feeds)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album) = needs votes

Same with the header redesign http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12426

I don't think VB explores many web design options, that is a whole new world. I think they are always focusing on the back-end aspects, so they need assistance with design aspects and ideas.

Here is how profile and media tab should look like:

Jira
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12665 (Profile left column improvement)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album)

http://i.imgur.com/HHIfH2q.jpg

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2014/05/28.jpg

katie hunter 05-15-2014 02:51 PM

We've separated this ticket because it needs its own. It needs votes!

Improvement to Media Tab, Gallery and image function

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album) = needs votes

http://i.imgur.com/JDoCWC7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BhdPT2L.jpg

cellarius 05-16-2014 08:53 PM

Honestly, I fear you won't find many who still bother to vote. Hardly anyone uses vB5, and most of those once enthusiastic about vB5 have been through the vote-for-it-farce in JIRA for vB4 already.

But good luck anyway (you'll probably need it...)

katie hunter 05-16-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2498073)
Honestly, I fear you won't find many who still bother to vote. Hardly anyone uses vB5, and most of those once enthusiastic about vB5 have been through the vote-for-it-farce in JIRA for vB4 already.

But good luck anyway (you'll probably need it...)

You're making it sound miserable when it isn't. You don't even have a proper Jira system on XF if that is your intention. And i did get votes on my previous Jira tickets, this ticket was new so it has 0 votes at the moment.

It is not miserable as you'd like to believe to be. I wouldn't even bother posting my ideas and improvements on XF, i won't receive good feedback and I am not fond of the system structure anyways - they are still debating on whether to add a CMS or not. They aren't open for a new vision and they are working with a very conservative mind.

nhawk 05-16-2014 09:24 PM

I don't think XF has anything to do with Cellarius' opinion of vB Jira.

For the most part I've lost all interest in reporting anything via Jira. It's just not being used properly. As an example:

I reported a bug in vB5 on December 6, 2012 and had to argue my point to keep it open.

On June 11, 2013 the same bug was reported by someone else.

Today, May 16, 2014 my original report was marked resolved and closed as a duplicate of the one reported after it.

Jira isn't being used properly by vB. The second report in June should have been closed that day (or at least near that date) as a duplicate of my report. Not wait well over a year to do it. But, I've been told it's not who reported it first, it's who participates more. Now that's one heck of a bug reporting system!

And that has happened more than once with bugs I've reported.

katie hunter 05-16-2014 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2498079)
I don't think XF has anything to do with Cellarius' opinion of vB Jira.

For the most part I've lost all interest in reporting anything via Jira. It's just not being used properly. As an example:

I reported a bug in vB5 on December 6, 2012 and had to argue my point to keep it open.

On June 11, 2013 the same bug was reported by someone else.

Today, May 16, 2014 my original report was marked resolved and closed as a duplicate of the one reported after it.

Jira isn't being used properly by vB. The second report in June should have been closed that day (or at least near that date) as a duplicate of my report. Not wait well over a year to do it. But, I've been told it's not who reported it first, it's who participates more. Now that's one heck of a bug reporting system!

And that has happened more than once with bugs I've reported.

I've faced few disagreement with Vb staff when using Jira (some Jira ticket were marked duplicate and were re-open, others were marked trivial when it should be major), it wasn't the end of the world. I am still using Jira for unique ideas and improvements that I want VB to look at and explore, they will look at them because they are new and never were done before.

Also using Jira is better than using nothing and reporting topics on a forum that gets locked or marked duplicate and not properly tracked i.e., XF. There are many like these on XF btw. As for Cellarius, he just came and made it sound that VB 5.x is in a miserable situation . It is not, it needs a push in the right direction.

nhawk 05-16-2014 09:39 PM

What I'm about to say has nothing to do with XF, so please don't take it that way.

vB5 is in a miserable situation and has been since before 'gold' release. It does far too much client side which is part of what slows it down. That's been my opinion since pre-release beta and remains my opinion today.

While vB5 was a great idea, it's implementation fails. And vB failed to heed warnings from Beta testers telling them it was not ready for prime-time. And it still isn't ready today.

katie hunter 05-16-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2498081)
What I'm about to say has nothing to do with XF, so please don't take it that way.

vB5 is in a miserable situation and has been since before 'gold' release. It does far too much client side which is part of what slows it down. That's been my opinion since pre-release beta and remains my opinion today.

While vB5 was a great idea, it's implementation fails.

Trust me i am speaking about the same issue right now! it doesn't mean i will abandon it because VB is what i use. Yes they are taking the wrong approach when coding it.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...-x-speed/page2

cellarius 05-16-2014 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2498077)
You're making it sound miserable when it isn't.

I reserve to have a different opinion. I have reported and scrubbed many bugs in JIRA since it was introduced, and have filed and tracked bug reports on vB4 since the very beginning of the alpha testing process.

And I won't even bother to take your xF bait in this thread. This about vB and the "vote for it in JIRA"-nonsense, nothing else.

katie hunter 05-16-2014 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2498084)
I reserve to have a different opinion. I have reported and scrubbed many bugs in JIRA since it was introduced, and have filed and tracked bug reports on vB4 since the very beginning of the alpha testing process.

And I won't even bother to take your xF bait in this thread. This about vB and the "vote for it in JIRA"-nonsense, nothing else.

Whenever you pop up in good threads relative to VB 5.x , i always look at your signature. Hence, there are people who look for improvements while others are looking to belittle and make things look miserable. That was what i meant and you and I know what that mean.

You have someone introducing ideas, let them be without making the situation look miserable (you can create your own topic for that), at least they are trying, better than staying on the side doing nothing which is not my approach.

nhawk 05-16-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2498083)
Trust me i am speaking about the same issue right now! it doesn't mean i will abandon it because VB is what i use. Yes they are taking the wrong approach when coding it.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...-x-speed/page2

I haven't abandoned vB either (not yet at least). But I have abandoned vB-5.

One more problem with vB-4 where a fix for a bug/security issue has to be fixed by a coder outside of vB and I will join many other people and completely abandon them.

katie hunter 05-16-2014 09:57 PM

Well you see what you guys are doing, degrading VB 5.x thread. This thread was introducing ideas and you came and said it is miserable don't bother with it.

That is the summary of your responses. I am not changing my mind. I change it when i see that I need to change it.

PhilUK 06-14-2014 08:40 AM

My dear Katie Hunter,

Get off your high horse over what member CELLARIUS said.

VB5 is rubbish. We have used it since February 2014 - paid good money for it in good faith - lost valuable members because of its malignant nature - and we have had nothing but a catalogue of trouble ever since.

I am not being miserable - but there comes a point when patience runs out.

Dave_The_Don 07-08-2016 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katie hunter (Post 2497588)
I've added this to Jira, i personally think members list should take a new approach rather then columns being used every where on the forum.

http://i.imgur.com/6MM78HN.jpg

Jira http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2016/07/3.jpg

Other Jira Tickets

http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blog redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album) = needs votes
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Discovery a whole new set of features - Feeds)

liked following and voted all ov above ;)

shimei 07-08-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_The_Don (Post 2573016)
liked following and voted all ov above ;)

Awesome.

I noticed search functions to search profile fields has been lost from Vb4 to Vb5. It would be nice to search profile fields too in the member list or search. Finding a member would be nicer with these functions.

Gamelobby 01-19-2017 11:31 PM

Memberlist for groups is a great idea. I can't even tell who all is in my group.? lol


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