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Majora 02-18-2014 11:00 PM
Prevent thin content to avoid panda penalty
 
Hey there
i have coded a plugin for vBulletin 4 that prevent thin content.
This mod will add the meta noindex tag to threads with a word count equal or below the setting you specify.
For example:

The word count within a thread is under 200 words and the thread is older than 60 days, the <meta name="robots" content="noindex, follow"> tag will automatically placed in the header. When someone post in the thread and the word count is higher than 200 words the <meta name="robots" content="noindex, follow"> will removed automatically.

That will increase time on site and page views per visit.

Websites with shallow content aren't helpful to searchers, so as a company trying to promote the best search experience possible, it makes sense that Google is trying to ensure only the best content is surfaced in the SERPs.
As for thin content, Panda will slap you with a low score for short or unsubstantial articles.

Google said:

Quote:
low-quality content on some parts of a website can impact the whole site?s rankings, and thus removing low quality pages, merging or improving the content of individual shallow pages into more useful pages, or moving low quality pages to a different domain could eventually help the rankings of your higher-quality content.
How to install:
  1. Import XML file (as product): AdminCP > Plugin System > Manage Products > [Add/Import Product]
  2. Place {vb:raw vbstylesNoIndex} inside the <head></head> section within the SHOWTHREAD-Template.



Best regards
Matthias

final kaoss 02-19-2014 11:42 PM
So how did you reach the conclusion that 200 words or less shouldn't be indexed?

Personally, I would set this limit to 500 words per thread (page). Also, does this take into consideration different thread pages like this?
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=243754&page=2

puertoblack2003 02-20-2014 12:18 AM
Google does not have a minimum word count for indexing

ozzy47 02-20-2014 12:31 AM
Do you have any testing results for this mod?

Like did you do a page ranking before adding this to your site, then add it, wait a reasonable amount of time to be re-indexed, and get a better page rank.

Thangvip9x 02-20-2014 04:45 AM
Can you screenshots? I want to you show your results when use this mod

Majora 02-20-2014 08:49 AM
Please take a look at this thread: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=275641

Quote:
What word count setting do I use?

This depends on the forum. For example I have a 20k thread forum, that had lost 80% of it's traffic overnight, since june. I started at 50 words, then 100, now upto 200 to start seeing a recovery. So i hide all threads with 200 words or less from Google. All this means is by setting this at 200 i hide enough content to swing the balance, ie; the bad now doesn't outweigh the good.
Quote:
Start low and increase the setting until you see you traffic increase or recover, it sounds insane to block content to increase traffic but it is about hiding the bad that is dragging the good down. It is no longer ok to let Google decide what to rank and what to sink, they want YOU to put your best stuff in the shop windows and lock the rest in the basement, hidden from customers.

TheLastSuperman 02-20-2014 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majora (Post 2482571)
Please take a look at this thread: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=275641
Why would you link to a thread in the graveyard for an answer about a mod you developed... I hate to ask this but did you port that mod without permission and simply re-release?

Majora 02-20-2014 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 2482633)
Why would you link to a thread in the graveyard for an answer about a mod you developed... I hate to ask this but did you port that mod without permission and simply re-release?
Yes, that's my own mod without download the other one. The idea is the same as in the other mod.
With my mod you can set a specific time (after the time the thread will automatically noindexed with the tag).

ozzy47 02-20-2014 09:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majora (Post 2482655)
Yes, that's my own mod without download the other one. The idea is the same as in the other mod.
With my mod you can set a specific time (after the time the thread will automatically noindexed with the tag).
Huh? So you originally posted the mod under a different name, and now posting it under this name, or that person released a mod under their name that you custom coded for them?

joeychgo 02-21-2014 07:43 AM
This mod will do nothing for SEO --

Majora 02-26-2014 11:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeychgo (Post 2482811)
This mod will do nothing for SEO --
Why? Of course this mod will help to prevent thin content!

ozzy47 02-27-2014 10:45 AM
What about this question?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majora (Post 2482655)
Yes, that's my own mod without download the other one. The idea is the same as in the other mod.
With my mod you can set a specific time (after the time the thread will automatically noindexed with the tag).
Huh? So you originally posted the mod under a different name, and now posting it under this name, or that person released a mod under their name that you custom coded for them?

TheLastSuperman 02-27-2014 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy47 (Post 2484014)
What about this question?



Huh? So you originally posted the mod under a different name, and now posting it under this name, or that person released a mod under their name that you custom coded for them?
I believe he meant that, he thought of this.. created it then noticed the other mod and how it was very similar so he referenced it. I could be wrong, how I read it.

final kaoss 02-27-2014 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majora (Post 2483962)
Why? Of course this mod will help to prevent thin content!
It will help to prevent the indexing of thin content. It will not prevent thin content from being created.

Editing this field will prevent "thin content".

Quote:
Minimum Characters Per Post
If this number is set to a value greater than 0, users must enter at least that number of characters in each new post.

Note: setting this to 0 will not completely disable the minimum characters per post check. Users must always enter at least 1 character.
I have mine set to 30

Marv 02-27-2014 05:51 PM
Majora,
what happens to threads with a wordcount >200 and an age >60 days? The settings are a bit confusing, saying
Quote:
Enter Thread Age (days). The threads that haven't been updated within the age will have the NoIndex Meta tags added.
.

Does that mean any thread which hasn?t become updated via a new posting in the thread age timeframe of 60 days will have a noindex attribute? Even those with >200 words? Or is this a AND condition [if ((wordcount<200) AND (ThreadAge>60)) = NoIndex] ?

Marv 02-28-2014 08:06 AM
At least the idea sounds promising. I guess I?ll give it a try and do some testing. The next Google update should be in about a month or so and my site is decreasing since a year, which is based on Panda and the increasing loss of quality in postings - the facebook symptom: quick and more postings, less text, far more less quality and on top pure senseless off topic chatter. You all are familiar with that ;)

Starting point is a PR4 (static since 10 yrs) and 122000 actual search results displayed in Google via a "site:www.mysite.com" search . The settings of this Addon are set to a wordcount of 200 and a thread age of 30 days.



Anyone else who would join the testing?

TheLastSuperman 03-04-2014 04:54 AM
Graveyard per author request.


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