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K4GAP 02-18-2014 09:42 PM

Selling your vb?
 
In order to be legit, what are the steps to be able to sell your vb 4.2.2 Suite?

I know it's a little off topic but it's been a long day and I couldn't figure out the best place to put the post.

ForceHSS 02-18-2014 09:48 PM

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ozzy47 02-18-2014 10:25 PM

You giving up again Gary? Or you looking to buy from someone?

TheLastSuperman 02-18-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryT (Post 2482231)
In order to be legit, what are the steps to be able to sell your vb 4.2.2 Suite?

I know it's a little off topic but it's been a long day and I couldn't figure out the best place to put the post.

Best place to ask this would be a direct ticket to vBulletin Support... I would offer more advice on the subject but seeing as how I forgot about Active/Leased licenses recently they are the source for clarification, as I was told nothing has changed in over 5 years regarding licensing so that must apply to license transfers as well... no wait that change for EU customers was within the past 2 yrs I believe but regardless information and questions about this litter the vbulletin.com forums so it tends to become confusing for some - another reason why I say a direct ticket is best.

From what I recall, it must be eligible for transfer (EU customers can transfer once and may have a transfer fee associated with it) but I'm not 100% on that though. I do know some forums offer venues for selling your license but it still all boils down to IF it's eligible for transfer per vBulletin, if they've transferred once already it's not eligible for transfer again as I recall.

ForceHSS 02-18-2014 10:49 PM

Pity vb doesn't do a buy back service

ozzy47 02-18-2014 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2482240)
Pity vb doesn't do a buy back service

I doubt that would be lucrative, as the license is not a physical item, but a virtual item, so buying it back is in no way increasing inventory.

ForceHSS 02-18-2014 11:10 PM

if they buy it at half of what it cost the buyer then resell it they would make cash on it

ozzy47 02-19-2014 12:33 AM

No that is not true.

Lets say I have a unlimited amount of something. I sell Joe one for $250.

At some later date I buy it back from Joe for $125, and sell it to Mike for $250.

My net return on the two virtual items $375.

But If I did not buy it back from Joe, and just sold Mike another item, my net return is $500

Only way for me to make a profit in the manner you are referring to is if I only had a limited supply of the item.

ForceHSS 02-19-2014 12:55 AM

And does vb not?

ozzy47 02-19-2014 12:58 AM

Not what?

ForceHSS 02-19-2014 01:05 AM

Does not matter

K4GAP 02-19-2014 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy47 (Post 2482237)
You giving up again Gary? Or you looking to buy from someone?

I'm not giving up. I'm just not able to spend the money for another year of hosting. A lot of family dynamics going on and I need the money. My birthday is this coming Saturday so unless one of my kids pays for it, in the middle of March my hosting expires. If it get's paid, I'll be around, if not I'll be gone anyway.

Zachery 02-19-2014 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2482261)
And does vb not?

There is a unlimited supply of licenses.

Max Taxable 02-19-2014 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryT (Post 2482283)
I'm not giving up. I'm just not able to spend the money for another year of hosting. A lot of family dynamics going on and I need the money. My birthday is this coming Saturday so unless one of my kids pays for it, in the middle of March my hosting expires. If it get's paid, I'll be around, if not I'll be gone anyway.

You might instead decide (egads Noes!) to switch to a economy hosting package since you're not promoting your forum or hosting alot of traffic. Godaddy (which I have used for ten years with little issues) has a econ shared package for $54 annually. Not per month, per year. Very affordable for a hobby, alot less expensive than most other hobbies.

You already sprung for the software license, it's not that expensive to keep it up in some form.

Zachery 02-19-2014 03:43 AM

Stay away from GoDaddy, please for the love of god.

CAG CheechDogg 02-19-2014 04:54 AM

Ask your forum members for donations my Man!

I asked for donations last July to help out with the hosting, in less than an hour, my forum's registered and clan members donated over $560 which helped pay for the hosting for a very long whiles.

Don't be afraid to ask your members for help man, if you do it only when you really need it and if your forum members appreciate and care for the forums they "will" help you out.

Paul M 02-19-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2482261)
And does vb not?

The number of licences is basically unlimited.
Technically you would probably hit issues with several billion in the database, but for all practical purposes, there is no limit.

TheLastSuperman 02-19-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAG CheechDogg (Post 2482288)
Ask your forum members for donations my Man!

I asked for donations last July to help out with the hosting, in less than an hour, my forum's registered and clan members donated over $560 which helped pay for the hosting for a very long whiles.

Don't be afraid to ask your members for help man, if you do it only when you really need it and if your forum members appreciate and care for the forums they "will" help you out.

I've seen many do this, ask for help and you'd be surprised how most communities respond and step up to the plate - by that I mean each site has it members who love it and don't want to let it go just as much as the owner and will gladly donate.

Like the old saying goes "doesn't hurt to ask, worst someone can say is no" ;).

K4GAP 02-19-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 2482373)
I've seen many do this, ask for help and you'd be surprised how most communities respond and step up to the plate - by that I mean each site has it members who love it and don't want to let it go just as much as the owner and will gladly donate.

Like the old saying goes "doesn't hurt to ask, worst someone can say is no" ;).

I asked my only member (me) and he said sell it :)

I'm laying out hints to the wife that I need help (for my birthday) hopefully she'll follow the hints. I've never asked her for a penny since we've been married (37 years). All of my little hobbies I pay for with a small annuity I get from an old venture.

I'll find out on my birthday.

Disco_Dave 02-19-2014 01:31 PM

How about trying a different route with your forum? I always found your skins/design pleasing on the eye, and very well thought out. I think I read somewhere that you where into radio ham? I did a quick Google search on radio ham forums, and there didn't seem to be that many in Kentucky.

Just a thought.

K4GAP 02-19-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco_Dave (Post 2482377)
How about trying a different route with your forum? I always found your skins/design pleasing on the eye, and very well thought out. I think I read somewhere that you where into radio ham? I did a quick Google search on radio ham forums, and there didn't seem to be that many in Kentucky.

Just a thought.

Thanks Dave but I already run a Ham site, 2 local Church sites, and my Daughters photography web site. I've said this before and a few thought it was funny but, As nice as membership would be, I don't really try to gain members. I just enjoy design and graphics.

After spending all morning looking around I've found out the going rate for a vb license is not even half what I paid for it. So unless my birthday is a really good, I'll keep the license and let the hosting go.

Max Taxable 02-19-2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2482287)
Stay away from GoDaddy, please for the love of god.

My experience with them has been good for ten years. No doubt there IS a political reason to knock the service, but it has no effect on me.

K4GAP 02-19-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2482392)
My experience with them has been good for ten years. No doubt there IS a political reason to knock the service, but it has no effect on me.

The Ham site I maintain has been on Go-Danika!!! since 2009. I've had zero problems with them.

Max Taxable 02-19-2014 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryT (Post 2482403)
The Ham site I maintain has been on Go-Danika!!! since 2009. I've had zero problems with them.

If it's the deluxe economy hosting like mine, you can move your vBulletin installation there and maintain it at no extra cost.

Zachery 02-19-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2482392)
My experience with them has been good for ten years. No doubt there IS a political reason to knock the service, but it has no effect on me.

I honestly don't care about those, in the grand scheme of things.

What I do care about is having hundreds of hundreds of hours wasted by godaddy by telling customers its a fault in the software. GoDaddy will never acknowledge a problem on their end, nor will they work with us (vBulletin) to address problems on their servers.

I've spent 4 weeks with two different customers troubleshooting a time problem. Several servers at godaddy years ago were on the wrong times, godaddy said this wasn't possible. After creating a script to check the time, and having the customers end users check the script constantly. We found 10~ servers in total with wrong times. They didn't apologize for the mistake, they didn't credit the users any time on their accounts, nothing. They fixed it, though.


For a while, their Windows PHP version was so bad, and slow, that it'd take 4-5 hours to run the vBulletin 3/4/5 installer.

In general, their PHP on windows was so broken and stripped down, it could barely be called php.

Regularly they call an issue writing to the session storage path an issue with the application, and not their problem. Even though it is their bad permissions and php configuration issues causing the problem. Stuff like Facebook connect won't work without proper session storage. (php sessions).


Currently, customers upgrading anything of a larger database, to vBulletin 4 or 5 will get null routed to their site, due to their security rules. This has been replicated by every member of the vBulletin t2 support staff, and a large handful of customers on GoDaddy. It literately means an upgrade that'd take an hour or two, will take 2-3 weeks, even rotating staff members. By the time you can get anyone involved who can check it, the bans/null routes get released. They refused to acknowledge the problem.


They've lied to customers repeatedly on "managed" servers telling them its impossible to upgrade PHP to a more recent version, and that 5.3.3 is newer than 5.3.27/28. Had 4-5 tickets about this in the same week. PHP 5.3.3 is an insanely buggy build.

GoDaddy refuses to give ANY shell access to managed server customers, at all.

Several times, their support has not told customers that they have blank index.html files in their site root.


That is why you don't host or pay money to godaddy.

Edit, and this new issue today: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....87&postcount=1

Max Taxable 02-19-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2482427)
What I do care about is having hundreds of hundreds of hours wasted by godaddy by telling customers its a fault in the software. GoDaddy will never acknowledge a problem on their end, nor will they work with us (vBulletin) to address problems on their servers.

Yep I posted about that in that thread, and how it's also not all that uncommon from most all of the big hosting providers. In fact blaming the customer is almost universal among them.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....11&postcount=9

Chris8 02-19-2014 06:03 PM

If anyone is selling their vb.. I'm buying. I'm interested in 3.7.X licenses with vbblog addon. Reasonable price of course please.

As for the Godaddy subject Godaddy is good for buying new domains but painful for renewals.
As for their hosting... it's not a good choice for anything bigger than simple HTML few pages sites.

BirdOPrey5 02-19-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryT (Post 2482231)
In order to be legit, what are the steps to be able to sell your vb 4.2.2 Suite?

I know it's a little off topic but it's been a long day and I couldn't figure out the best place to put the post.

Step 1- Open a support ticket in the Member's Area and ask if you license is eligible for transfer and what the fee is, if any.

Step 2 - Assuming it is eligible list it for sale somewhere else (you cannot list it for sale here or on vBulletin.com) one such place that does allow license sales is - http://extralicense.com/

Step 3 - Get the money from the buyer and then create another support ticket requesting the license transfer. You will need the name, email address, mailing address, country, and phone number of the new party.

Simon Lloyd 02-22-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2482287)
Stay away from GoDaddy, please for the love of god.

Have to chirp in here - Zacks' right support isn't too hot and should you ever want to leave.....you'll know pain!

DreadsUK 02-22-2014 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2482287)
Stay away from GoDaddy, please for the love of god.

huh?? scared of the answer but please elaborate.

ozzy47 02-22-2014 06:49 PM

Read through the whole thread, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....7&postcount=25

DreadsUK 02-22-2014 07:29 PM

ah phew, ok, so its their servers. cause i just bought a domain through them on its own. Surely they cant f*c* that up can they...?

BirdOPrey5 02-22-2014 07:33 PM

name.com is cheaper than GoDaddy for domains and doesn't have nearly as much the junkware they try to sell you.

Zachery 02-24-2014 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreadsUK (Post 2483099)
huh?? scared of the answer but please elaborate.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....7&postcount=25


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