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High CPU usage by my site>>help me??

Hello
my hoostage (hostgator ) suspend my site many times because Vbulletin
was causing a high load on the server, and due to it affecting all of the other accounts on the system, I was forced to take immediate action for the health of the server.

Unfortunately I do not have any specific recommendations for this script, however, in general, adding some sort of caching mechanism, where the script does not need to generate a new page with every request, helps to lower the over load that a script will cause. Likely the original author or support group of the software that you are using will be able to help you to understand how to add something of this nature.

Help me Plz

Are you using any kind of chat system on your site? I have hostgator and they "do not" like when people using forums have chat systems.

Also what kind of set up do you have for say private messages, images and other features that might cause server load to increase due to an increase in page requests.

Go through your settings and search for anything having to do with high server load increase and performance.

Check your site using the Patrick Meenan model. It will show your actual CPU loading, and also break down everything your site loads on a browser, might yield a clue:

http://www.webpagetest.org

On your hosting, do you have the ability to monitor your CPU load, or are you stuck just having to trust their word?

What are the server load averages showing in adminCP?

Max if hes on a shared program I don't think he will be able to see all that info in cPanel. I have hostgator and I will see what options I have.

I do use webpagetest.org , very good site to help monitor your sites...good recommendation!

What major modifications do you have installed?

Native vBulletin does NOT cause high server load, as your host seems to be claiming... On second and more careful reading of your OP.

Max is this what he should be looking for in his hostgator cPanel?

If it is he should have that under statistics on the left side when he logs into his cPanel.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2012/10/11.jpg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2375420)

Native vBulletin does NOT cause high server load, as your host seems to be claiming... On second and more careful reading of your OP.

Correct, I had to remove the chat systems I was trying on vbulletin because "they" were causing high server loads and hostgator was slamming me on those every time I installed one.

That is the only bad thing about hostgator, they just don't like chatbars and shoutboxes being used on their customers sites.

Does HostGator lock your php memory limit? I've never used their service.

Correction PSF....they set it at 64MB by default and it is locked unless you are on a VPS plan.

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These are the shared PHP settings by default

safe mode = Off (cannot adjust)
memory_limit = 256M (MAXIMUM)
max_execution_time = 30 (MAXIMUM in seconds)
max_input_time = 60 (MAXIMUM in seconds)
post_max_size = 64M (MAXIMUM)
upload_max_filesize = 64M (MAXIMUM)
enable_dl = Off (cannot adjust)

thanks i will see what can i do
they suspend it again
i really very sad fromm this recurrent suspension

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i did all that they said in the link you sent
here
http://www.vbulletin-faq.com/optimiz...tin-server.htm
and also they suspend it agaain

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i donot have chat in my site

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Mo7ammad (Post 2392213)

Can you post the link to your site buddy, I want to see what is going on myself.

Did you try disabling all your modifications?

Note: To temporarily disable the plugin system, edit includes/config.php and add this line right under <?php

PHP Code:


		
			
define('DISABLE_HOOKS', true);

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Mo7ammad (Post 2392213)

thanks i will see what can i do
they suspend it again
i really very sad fromm this recurrent suspension

You haven't determined yet if your site is causing the high CPU load. Sounds to me like you need a new hosting service.

How about a link to your site, so we readers can run some tests on it.

thanks for your reply
this is my site
www.Alltebfamily.com
thanks
iam waiting your reply

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this is the message they sent

Unfortunately, we were forced to suspend the scriptpublic_html/vb as it was causing a high load on the server. Due to this affecting all of the other accounts on the system, we had to take immediate action for the health of the server.

It appears that you are running a vBulletin script. There are some optimization techniques that you can find for this here http://www.vbulletin-faq.com/optimiz...tin-server.htm. This should help you with caching and database optimizing that should increase performance while limiting server usage.

If you find that you need HTTP access to this particular script, you can provide us with your IP address (http://www.hostgator.com/ip.shtml) and we will be more than happy to go ahead enable it for you, so that you can safely work on the script without it causing further issues. Please let us know how you would like to proceed.

Running Processes:
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how to follow my cpu usage????

Turn off your stats modification. Those hog resources big time.

Don't list all your sub-forums on your forum home page. Take a look at your page source on that page - that needs to be sent out to everyone everytime they click on that page. It's HUGE.

Get rid of as many graphics as possible on your home page. Or at least optimize them. You have a 300 x 100 gif and it's over 24KB in size http://www.upislam.com/images/66908021861817659542.gif I ran it through this site and just reducing it to 32 colors saves you 28% in size. And honestly, it doesn't look that different and nobody will notice or care. You could probably go to 16 colors and reduce the size by 43%.

Do not show images inline. Or, if you must, turn on thumbnails and leave it at 100x100 and use those. Then users can click on the thumbnail to see the full image.

Turn off viewing attachments and thumbnails for Unregistered Users. This is a MUST right now! It's a usergroup permission.

That's enough to get you started. But you should also take a look at all your modifications and see if they are really needed. Facebook comments? Similar Threads? Take a look at anything that adds queries or external scripts.

Results of one Meenan test I did on your site seem to confirm Lynne's recommendations. Here's detailed analysis:

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/121222_Z8_FDN/

WOW !....

Yes, that template you are using on your forums is to image heavy and the images are not optimized at all.

Use this site to help you optimize your site: http://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.allt...y.com/KwSpQi6p

It will give you a list of all the images you have to optimize and a link to the optimized version of each image so that you can just click, save and upload and replace them on your server.

You also have to add some type of caching to your files and add image dimensions to your images as well.

Fixing those 3 issues will greatly improve your site's performance and "probably" quiet hostgator down.

If you need help doing this let me know, I have some free time tonight.

thanks very much
i did all you said

but facebook comments is needed in my site i started to use it and waiting their response

aiam waiting other comments
thanks really

Ok I don't know if your last comment was towards me or someone else but it still shows that you have not optimized your images, specified image dimensions or implemented some sort of caching.

i just saw your comment rightnow
and optimized some images and still
you can retest now and tell me
thanks verymuch

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also , do you recommend me image dimensions to use

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Mo7ammad (Post 2392412)

Good stuff and yes you should get the proper image dimensions and add them. That is going to take some work, maybe a couple of hours but you should do it as well.

Also add the following to your .htaccess file in your forums root. This will help you with the caching:

PHP Code:


		
			
#Deny attempts to view the Htaccess file.
<Files .htaccess>
Order allow,deny
Deny from all
</Files>
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Check your private messages Buddy...

But the code I gave you add it after all your other code in your .htaccess file...

Dude, really. Ditch this custom skin and use the vB default until you get all of these issues worked out. This skin is so poorly designed, it will take a lunation to fix it.

It's not so much that the custom skin is poorly designed though Max. All of vBulletin's default skins are missing the image dimensions for all of those images which is one of the areas in which Page Speed rates image dimensions as high priority.

Even if he used the default template he would still score low. He needs to implement that caching code I gave him into his .htaccess file and he will see good results and just add the image dimensions to all those images.

They are hard to find but not difficult. The best way for you to find them Dr_Mo7ammad is to copy just the actual image file portion, i.e. (collapse_tcat.gif) and then look for it in your templates by doing a template search in your admin cp.

You can also find the image by doing a search for (misc), (buttons), just depends where the image is located.

You will certainly have to use your head to find these images.

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Here is a post I made a while back about how to add the image dimensions once you find the image in the templates:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...57#post2369857

thanks
i will do this
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what about expiration date

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thanks

To fix that you need to add leverage browser caching, you still have not added the code to your htaccess like I suggested you do in this post:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=21

i really get bored from hostgator
they resuspend it again more early

Hello,

Unfortunately, we were forced to suspend the script /home/mohammad/public_html/vb as it was causing a high load on the server. Due to this affecting all of the other accounts on the system, we had to take immediate action for the health of the server.

i donont know what to do
i did nearly all things you told me to do?????????????????//

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should i change my hostage?

You did "nearly" all the things we told you to do - what didn't you do that we asked you to do? Did you disable your modifications?

i nearly disabled most of modification

Which did you NOT disable?

they suspend it now
i will call them to reactivate and tell you

do you suggest me to change my hostage
i really angry with this

--------------- Added [DATE]1357854886[/DATE] at [TIME]1357854886[/TIME] ---------------

i want to install a new forum version and try to start from the begining and see what will happen
what is your opinions?

You may want to try a new host. But, if you are running query intensive modifications, you may need more than a shared server is going to give you.

they sent me these topics to apply in site
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=241783
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=241783
do you recommend them?

but my forum is 3.8

--------------- Added [DATE]1357913912[/DATE] at [TIME]1357913912[/TIME] ---------------

what do you mean by this

you may need more than a shared server is going to give you.

I mean if you insist on using modifications with many queries, and having so many non-web optimized images, then you may have to move up from shared hosting.

thanks
i removed more modification

what is your opinion about the 2 pages in the last post???

Those looks fine, but I think they assume you have more access to your server than I am guessing you would have on a shared server. Are you allowed to install Memcached? Can you modify the my.cnf file? Upgrade mysql? Turn off apache modules? etc (Also, you only linked to one thread - they are both the same.)

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