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Enthusify 07-06-2012 10:00 PM

Integrated Classifieds Plugin - by Panjo
 
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As of September 2015, the Panjo marketplace mod for vBulletin has been completely rearchitected.

You can learn more about the latest version of the mod on Panjo's vBulletin partner page.

This mod enables you to launch a peer-to-peer community marketplace that is integrated into your vBulletin forum.

Here is how it works:
1) Install the plugin.
2) Customize the categories you want in your marketplace.
3) Contact Chad at Panjo: chad@panjo.com to activate your marketplace.
4) When a seller goes to a new or old subforum dedicated to buying/selling/trading, and clicks on the "post new thread" button, the mod will load a listing creation form.
5) The seller will create a listing. The listing will appear in the marketplace. A synchronized copy of the listing will appear in the appropriate buy/sell/trade subforum.

Is this plugin free?
Yes, this plugin is free.

Can you make money with this plugin?
Yes, you can optionally use this plugin to generate marketplace transaction revenue.

How is it with mobile?
The marketplace loads with layouts that are optimized for high res desktop, tablet, and mobile.

Examples:
Porsche Marketplace <syncs with> Porsche classifieds subforum
BMW Marketplace <syncs with> BMW classifieds subforums
Audi Marketplace <syncs with> Audi classifieds subforums
Belly dancing marketplace <syncs with> Belly dancing classifieds subforums

Gallery:
The marketplace home page
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1442438115
A listing detail page
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1442438115
The listing creation form for a seller
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1442438115

Do you have questions about Panjo? Contact the team at Panjo:
chad@panjo.com
1-424-272-0291

SwollenCranium 07-07-2012 02:27 PM

Whoa ...

" How quickly does Enthusify fund the seller?

Enthusify funds a seller fourteen (14) days after a buyer purchases the seller's item. This escrow period helps protect buyers and sellers. "




Yeah .. good luck with that.

Enthusify 07-07-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwollenCranium (Post 2345812)
Yeah .. good luck with (14 day escrow).

SwollenCranium - Thanks for the feedback. We had to start somewhere in version 1 of this vBulletin classifieds plugin. The 14 day escrow was the most happy medium. Some of our beta partners do a decent number of international transactions and for them, 14 days isn't quite enough. Nevertheless, you are not alone in your desire for something other than a 14 day escrow. An upcoming release will include a mechanism for the buyer and seller to confirm the transaction is complete and successful in order to allow the release of funds as soon as possible as opposed to a fixed number of days from the date of purchase.

Please keep the feedback coming. Version 1 was architected with the guidance and advice of many forum owners and members. We have an exciting product roadmap ahead. Each bit of feedback helps shapes that roadmap.

nhawk 07-07-2012 04:09 PM

You might want to mark this properly.

1) Plugin: This modification uses the plugin or product system.
2) External: This modification pulls in content from 3rd party sites.
3) File Additions: This modification includes new files to upload.

Even though it is in the description, I'm not sure how to alert everyone that you have to pay to use this mod.

Enthusify 07-07-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2345838)
You might want to mark this properly.
1) Plugin: This modification uses the plugin or product system.
2) External: This modification pulls in content from 3rd party sites.
3) File Additions: This modification includes new files to upload.
Even though it is in the description, I'm not sure how to alert everyone that you have to pay to use this mod.

Thanks for the note. To the best of my knowledge, the marks are assigned by the moderators of vB.org. I'll alert someone here to update the marks.

As for your comment that "you have to pay to use this mod." That isn't exactly true. The plugin is free. The plugin actually generates revenue for the forum owner. The plugin includes payment processing components. Use of the payment processing components do incur credit card processing and other fees that are charged to the seller (not the forum owner). In fact, Enthusify splits the fees income with the forum owner. The plugin can be a source of new revenue for forum owners who wish to implement it in that way. Some forum owners choose to waive their share of fees which can reduce the fees a seller incurs when he/she successfully sells an item to a buyer.

nhawk 07-07-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthusify (Post 2345841)
Thanks for the note. To the best of my knowledge, the marks are assigned by the moderators of vB.org. I'll alert someone here to update the marks.

As for your comment that "you have to pay to use this mod." That isn't exactly true. The plugin is free. The plugin actually generates revenue for the forum owner. The plugin includes payment processing components. Use of the payment processing components do incur credit card processing and other fees that are charged to the seller (not the forum owner). In fact, Enthusify splits the fees income with the forum owner. The plugin can be a source of new revenue for forum owners who wish to implement it in that way. Some forum owners choose to waive their share of fees which can reduce the fees a seller incurs when he/she successfully sells an item to a buyer.

Look at 'Edit Settings' in the first post. That is where the marks are set.

I guess the 10% fee when someone sells something isn't a payment of sorts. Symantics is all it is.

It boils down to a commercial product being distributed for free to make you money. It has no 'lite' function that avoids any fees to the person that uses it.

SwollenCranium 07-07-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthusify (Post 2345841)
Some forum owners

Other than my initial skepticism about finance (who isn't a bit skeptical about money making plans these days?) I'm intrigued by the plugin and would like to see it in production environment.

Do you have a link to a site already running this?

nhawk 07-07-2012 04:44 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm intrigued by it also. But there isn't a 'try before you pay' option anywhere. It would have been better if people could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee.

Enthusify 07-07-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2345843)
Look at 'Edit Settings' in the first post. That is where the marks are set. It boils down to a commercial product being distributed for free to make you money. It has no 'lite' function that avoids any fees to the person that uses it.

Thanks! I don't know why I missed that settings option no matter how hard I was hunting for it. I updated the markings.

Yes - this is a commercial product that is being distributed for free. I would put this mod in the same camp as services like VigLink or Post Release - vBulletin enhancements that are free and designed to generate revenue for the forum owner and the mod author.

Enthusify 07-07-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2345849)
But there isn't a 'try before you pay' option anywhere. It would have been better if people could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee.

From the perspective of forum owners, you can try the plugin. Simply download it, install it, and contact enthusify for the required security key and marketplace id. Enthusify can point your freshly installed plugin to our test environment and give you a demo credit card number to walk through a transaction end-to-end. You can install the plugin and hide it from your members.

From the perspective of sellers, they could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee. They would simply need to indicate in their listing that they prefer the buyer to pay them through their preferred method. I think the point you may be making is that, in version 1, a seller can't 'turn off' the embedded payment option. But a seller can direct a buyer to pay him/her through a method other than the included payment option.

likaweb 07-08-2012 12:33 AM

Thanks

where is this code Token??
------------------------------------ ----
Secret string of text used to generate authentication tokens.

[You will be given this as part of your install package.]

nukinfuts29 07-08-2012 02:34 AM

I love the look and setup of the system. I would use it in a second if it did not regulate my users transactions, 14 days is insanity. It doesn't protect anybody really because most people, like me, are never going to ship a single thing without payment.

Enthusify 07-08-2012 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likaweb (Post 2345952)
where is this code Token?? Secret string of text used to generate authentication tokens.

We issue each forum a unique marketplace ID and a security key. Simply email me at: chad@enthusify.com with your forum URL and I'll reply with a marketplace ID and security key

Enthusify 07-08-2012 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukinfuts29 (Post 2345959)
14 days is insanity. It doesn't protect anybody really because most people, like me, are never going to ship a single thing without payment.

On the topic of your concern about the 14 day escrow... As I wrote up above, "The 14 day escrow was the most happy medium. Some of our beta partners do a decent number of international transactions and for them, 14 days isn't quite enough. Nevertheless, you are not alone in your desire for something other than a 14 day escrow. An upcoming release will include a mechanism for the buyer and seller to confirm the transaction is complete and successful in order to allow the release of funds as soon as possible as opposed to a fixed number of days from the date of purchase."

You expressed concern about shipping in absence of a payment. The included escrow service should address that concern. The Enthusify plugin notifies a seller when a fully qualified payment is received. Thus, when the system notifies you that your item sold, you are shipping with confidence that a payment is standing by in escrow for you.

Big-Pete 07-08-2012 09:43 AM

Been looking for a classiifeds for ages, but we only really want our members to sell to other members and also offer services such as car tuning etc.. Not sure if this pluigin is for us as it looks more like a shop than a classifieds listing... But we'll give it a shot.. :D

nhawk 07-08-2012 10:16 AM

I only have two more questions...

Are you a licensed escrow agent? If so, where?

nukinfuts29 07-08-2012 02:17 PM

Unless something goes wrong and I get scammed out of my money. Paypal does the same thing with new ebay members, doesn't stop there from being issues. Also maybe the members cannot afford the shipping without the payment, maybe they are selling only because they need the money fast or otherwise they wouldn't be selling.

There are lots of reasons not to meddle in the interactions of the members like this. Like i said great looking system, but too controlling.

Enthusify 07-08-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big-Pete (Post 2346007)
we only really want our members to sell to other members

When we configure your marketplace, we can configure it so only members can sell to members.

We have a forthcoming release that will allow you to set marketplace permissions at the vBulletin usergroup level.

Enthusify 07-09-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhawk (Post 2346016)
Are you a licensed escrow agent? If so, where?

Excellent question. Thanks for asking. We are headquartered in the state of California, in the United States. We are currently working with the California Department of Corporations to determine if there is a specific license we need. Our service does not clearly fit any of the preexisting clearly defined escrow licenses in the state. We are awaiting a response from the California Department of Corporations on our licensing needs/requirements.

Enthusify 07-09-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwollenCranium (Post 2345844)
Do you have a link to a site already running this?

You can check out a demo of the vBulletin classifieds software here:
http://skilodgeforum.com/classifieds.php
Just PM me or email (chad@enthusify.com) for a credential set and a test credit card number to try it out.

Here are a sampling of spots where it is already live:
Acura NSX classifieds at NSX Prime
Porsche classifieds at Planet-9
Yamaha FZ8 classifieds
Green dog products at Green Poochie

SwollenCranium 07-09-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enthusify (Post 2346497)
You can check out a demo
Just PM me or email (chad@enthusify.com) for a credential set and a test credit card number to try it out.]


Sir, the live sites were sufficient to satisfy my queries.

It is indeed a very slick looking system and if my forum members are willing I'll most likely join in at some point after the Beta.

greenpoochie 07-10-2012 02:01 AM

We just installed it, did a test, and we're going to let our users give it a whirl.

We were actually looking at building [either by hand or otherwise] a classifieds section when, through serendipity, found Enthusify via Twitter.

I think they have a rad product, I think our folks will like it, and we were trying to figure out how to do the exact thing. Will keep posting when we know more.

In the meantime, if it sounds like a good idea, try it. They sound like good people who listen to feedback and will only work to make the product better.

http://greenpoochie.com/forums/classifieds.php

wilford brimley 07-10-2012 04:51 AM

so, let me see if I understand.

I can install this and then use paypal or do I have to use the escrow service?

GameVB 07-10-2012 04:52 PM

I have to vouch for this. Great product =D

www.diablobillionaire.com

Enthusify 07-10-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilford brimley (Post 2346580)
I can install this and then use paypal or do I have to use the escrow service?

That is correct. There is nothing inherent in the system that forces a seller to use the included payment processing system. For example, here is a seller selling LED fog lights for Porsche Cayman owners. You will notice that he gives instructions for paying him via PayPal should the buyer choose to pay via that method.

Enthusify 07-11-2012 02:48 PM

A couple people have asked about the music in the Enthusify vBulletin classifieds demo video.

That is "Level Up:" Level Up (retro arcade LOOP)

Enthusify 07-12-2012 07:33 PM

We have gotten a few questions about the current payment processing fees. Version 1.0 (1.3.0) of this plugin charges a flat 10% fee for each purchase that uses the included payment processing option. (A buyer/seller are NOT required to use the included payment processing option.) We are currently working on the next release of the software that allows a forum owner to customize the payment processing fees and revenue share. A minimum fee is required in order to cover credit card interchange fees and other fixed costs of embedding a commerce module into vBulletin.

Enthusify 07-14-2012 09:09 PM

By popular demand, here are more YouTube videos of the Enthusify classifieds plugin. One of our interns shot these.

Canceling a listing: http://youtu.be/mksChZd_pnY
Editing a listing: http://youtu.be/jF4PLoJJS6g
Messaging a seller: http://youtu.be/j9wAWBmdQ_M

97lt1ta 07-16-2012 08:13 PM

I think this is a great mod with a lot of potential and I do have to say they have great support and go above and beyond to help.

Here is another example of it in action http://vegaslsx.com/vbulletin/classifieds.php

Enthusify 07-17-2012 10:05 PM

We just became aware of two bugs. We are working on fixes.
1) The first time a vBulletin 4.x user tries to list an item for sale she will see a message that says "sorry you do not appear to be logged in." If the user returns to the marketplace homepage and tries to list her item for sale a second time, it will work. This issue does not impact 3.x users.
2) Users of IE8 and IE9 can not add photos to their listings.

I am also excited to announce that we are releasing a new fee structure to our beta partners. We will charge a flat 3% per successful sale and the forum can add anything it wants to that. A forum can choose not to add anything to that minimum fee.

xlguy 07-19-2012 09:53 AM

I'd much prefer pay an annual license fee (or better still, a one-off fee). We know a number of forums that need a decent classifieds offering and would be prepared to pay a decent amount (i.e. a lot more than the vB license itself) to get one that they can install and run - without the fee system.

Enthusify 07-19-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlguy (Post 2349454)
I'd much prefer pay an annual license fee (or better still, a one-off fee). We know a number of forums that need a decent classifieds offering and would be prepared to pay a decent amount (i.e. a lot more than the vB license itself) to get one that they can install and run - without the fee system.

Thanks for the feedback! We will keep this in mind for future options we offer. In the meantime, we had to start somewhere. I encourage you to get a marketplace id and security key from us and install it and try it out. Sellers do not have to use the included payment processing. They can indicate their preferred method of payment in the listing they create. PM me or email (chad@enthusify.com) if you want to try the demo site or want to trial it on your own site. You can install the plugin on your site and hide it from the public while you (or you and your moderators) try it out.

Enthusify 08-01-2012 09:38 PM

UPDATE: A bug prevented users of IE 8/9 from uploading photos to their listings. We fixed that bug. The fix automatically propagated to all installations of the plugin. No action is required if you have the plugin installed. Users of IE rejoice.

fishmaster 08-02-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Sellers do not have to use the included payment processing. They can indicate their preferred method of payment in the listing they create.
That is my hold up.

Explaining that to casual members who sell small items occasionally would be a stretch.

Have an option to pay an annual fee so you can raise the revenue you desire for script usage.

Then provide an option to not show the escrow pay element at all for buyer payment(s).

Allow us to use paypal only for the member to member payment process.

Would also be cool if we could charge a listing fee that a seller would pay at the time of listing their sales copy.

Enthusify 08-02-2012 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishmaster (Post 2353547)
Have an option to pay an annual fee so you can raise the revenue you desire for script usage. Then provide an option to not show the escrow pay element at all for buyer payment(s). Allow us to use paypal only for the member to member payment process. Would also be cool if we could charge a listing fee that a seller would pay at the time of listing their sales copy.

Thanks for the feedback. We have gotten these requests from other forum owners. These options are on our radar for sure. In the meantime... feel free to give the plugin a trial run. Please keep the ideas and suggestions coming.

Enthusify 08-02-2012 05:14 PM

Today: August 2, 2012, we released the latest version of the vBulletin classifieds plugin. This version, 1.4.0, includes a few performance enhancements. This version also addresses an issue for forums running on servers configured to block the allow_url_fopen php function.

randy17875 08-04-2012 12:40 PM

I've been testing this for a bit and I think it does have some real possibilities if the product can be added to.

Here's a partial suggestions list from what I've seen so far.

-In the product options provide an input box to link to a review forum or article section. Another possibility for this would be to add a comments section where the links to the reviews could be inserted as well as a rating system for sellers


On the items for sale page the ratings of the seller of the item could be displayed similarly to the picture above. Either a pictorial star system or text based system could be used to rate the seller of the item.

On the actual Item page all of the information should be used so that the member can easily make a decision on purchasing similarly to the picture below.


-Control of classified setup and content is a must for this product. With the present setup of category creation/change and classifieds being done only via contact with Enthusify it will present an unacceptable bottleneck for most users and an ever increasing workload for your staff as well as an extra step and delay for the products users. This one is a make or break for the product. It can be handled a couple of ways either through an admin section on Emulsify or through a link through admin on the parent site. Security of both sites will need to be addressed on this.

-A multiple item or “store” type feature for those that sell multiple items would be a great benefit for many sites and sellers that want to sell multiple repeat items. This would also be of benefit to sites that have sponsors that could then sell their merchandise on the site.

Ability to add the stores as subcategories under a main 'Stores” category.
Link in individual categories to the store subcategory.
Ability in admin to waive payment percentages for site for sponsors.
Ability to link to tutorials and reviews on products.
Ability to add a store logo for sponsors.

This would be a very big plus for sites that have a specific “theme” that could be merchandise related. Not only could they use it to attract sponsors for their site, but they could then share traffic with their sponsors sites.

Just a few ideas that I think would benefit this product.

Enthusify 08-06-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy17875 (Post 2354351)
In the product options provide an input box to link to a review forum or article section. Another possibility for this would be to add a comments section where the links to the reviews could be inserted as well as a rating system for sellers

Comments and buyer/seller ratings are on our product roadmap. We anticipate their release within the next 3 months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy17875 (Post 2354351)
Control of classified setup and content is a must for this product. With the present setup of category creation/change and classifieds being done only via contact with Enthusify it will present an unacceptable bottleneck for most users and an ever increasing workload for your staff as well as an extra step and delay for the products users. This one is a make or break for the product. It can be handled a couple of ways either through an admin section on Emulsify or through a link through admin on the parent site. Security of both sites will need to be addressed on this.

Bottom line: some significant enhancements to the plugin's category and attribute system are forthcoming.
Background: For those who haven't yet installed the Enthusify plugin, randy17875 is referring to the fact that Enthusify sets up the categories and attributes for your marketplace on your behalf. Once established, Enthusify must implement requested edits and additions. There is not a 'self service' dashboard for a forum owner to add, edit, and delete categories. Furthermore, Enthusify's current category hierarchy has a few limitations. Based on requests from the first few beta customers, it is clear that the current architecture does not support all the desired permutations of categories and attributes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy17875 (Post 2354351)
A multiple item or ?store? type feature for those that sell multiple items would be a great benefit for many sites and sellers that want to sell multiple repeat items. This would also be of benefit to sites that have sponsors that could then sell their merchandise on the site.

Cool. Added to the product roadmap. This idea wasn't already there as described.

From all of us at Enthusify - THANKS for taking the time to compose this feedback. It is all appreciated. It will help us make the product better for everyone.

ywwz 08-07-2012 04:33 AM

screem shot pls

Enthusify 08-07-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ywwz (Post 2355158)
screen shot pls

There is a YouTube video of the vBulletin classifieds plugin in action here:
http://youtu.be/DGM-TYKYIp8

There are some screen shots of the classifieds mod here:
http://enthusify.com/partners#gallery

You can poke around the classifieds demo site here:
http://www.skilodgeforum.com/classifieds.php

Finally, you can browse some high res screen shots of the classifieds mod here:
http://photobucket.com/Enthusify


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