Okay, I know this has been mentioned a million times, but I want this hack, and am willing to pay for it.

I would like it to be based on Overgrown's adaptation of the hack. With the little bars and such. I would like it to be member rating member not solely admin rating member.

This can be like a mini auction.

I will make my decision based on price, quality of the member, and ease of installation.

Let the bidding begin!

:)

PS - You can take a look at my forum to see the color scheme which is basically the same as the default (I just love this color blue!)

back to back requests... one above the other.. one below the other.. geeze

Obviously, you can see this is something that people want...

BADLY!

Yah I noticed... lol :)

Don't worry we are working on it.. but got side tracked by a crap load of other things.. don't ya just hate that :)

But if someone can get this done for ya.. and you pay for it... it most likely will not be released... unless you want to spend your money only to share it hehe..

btw.. like was stated maybe elance.com can help.

icq me, I can get it done in like 3 days

I don't have icq...you can mail me at: caserini@yahoo.com

Snyx, do you mean you have already attempted components of this, know the requirements and have deternined you could achieve it in 3 days? I ask because I am considering paying someone right now to create this hack for me ...

As BradC notes, and from reading many prior karma requests, apparently this feature-set is both:

(1) high in demand
(2) sufficiently complex so as not to want to simply give it away considering such hard work & resource time

Last I have followed, wluke at one point was going to create this hack and release it here, but mostly due to (2) above, is reserving it for use at his sitepoint community, for competitive edge purposes (which makes perfect sense.) Overgrow also created a karma hack, but chooses not to release it here, same reasons. BradC and ToraTora! were collaborating to solve their version of karma. But sounds like same thing -- (2) above.

So, seems one approach is to hire someone to hack a solution -- in which case you are paying for that person's time.

But because of (1) above, makes sense to me that someone might consider finding a way to sell their already-completed hack code. Can someone explain to me the "rules", if any, about selling hack code? Is vB okay with this? Is it expressly prohibited? Is it "culturally" encouraged or discouraged?

I am already clear on the main issue that: vB will not officially support any user who has installed any hack code. But if a vB license holder chooses to buy and install hack code, does vB have a problem with this? Please give me the lowdown.

Thanks, Richard

http://baseball.fanhome.com/forums/s...7&pagenumber=2

I have not tried it yet -- but maybe it is most efficient to contact vB site owner MattR and discuss buying the hack he created. The question is: does it perform well? Anyone know?

MattR, Overgrow, wluke, Freddie discuss/compare how they'd prefer "karma" hacks to work: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...4414#post54414

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Here's vB user Overgrow's description of the "karma" hack he created (inspired by wluke) on his vB site overgrow.com: http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthr...threadid=20338

Here are search results for the word "karma" on that site, with explanations about how they employ it there: http://www.overgrow.com/edge/search....iews&sortdesc=

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More discussion of various versions of "karma":
This thread has wluke's last status on karma for vB incl some code written for vB 1.x versions: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=21668

Just so everyone knows...I would really like the "karma" in the Karma Hack...meaning I would like it to be like Overgrown's.

I don't want a simple little rating system with pluses or minuses... I want to make it fun.

That's MY requirement.

SOME of my krama hack features would include (ruff type up)

-full CP features (ie. features below editable via CP)
-admins set a vote flooding (ie. user can only give karma ot a user, once a day, once a week, once a month)
-all users start at 0 karma, one GOOD karma gives them +1 one BAD karma gives them -1
-users gain a CP set number of +karma when they hit posting marks (ie. user is at +5 karma, he hits his 100 post, he gets +5 karma
-karma reset (ie. set all karma on users to reset after 1,5,12 month(s) or never
-users can't give karma until set number of posts (ie. new users can't give karma until they hit 10 posts, or from when they join)
-when mods, or admins give karma it counts for more (ie. you can set your mods to give +2 or -2 karma when normal users would be +1 or -1)

so many other features, most number ones are editable from CP, I don't have time to type them all out, cuz I gotta do some lawn work :p email me, or icq me if ya wanna talk more

synx if you have it like you told me you do on icq why dont you release it people are cryin out for this hack. Soon this hack will end up like lockdown no one will have it.

Thread URL:
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthr...rma#searchjump

Excerpt
...I know what you mean, "If you give other people, they would give you". I actually observed that, it doesn't even work like that. When you are welknown in OG forums, then people give you karma, even for the smallest buds or simple jokes. And a lot of new users try to make wellknown users like them, to get some karma. I give everytime karma when I like something.

Check out for example this thread ... I uploaded 17 pictures in that thread, I think the pictures look good. The thread has been viewed +1500 times , let's say 200 people viewed 7 times (I think more ppl less times viewed), and from those ppl just 6 of them responded, and 2 of them gave karma. If I would be all about karma, 2 karmas and 6 responses wouldn't be enough for 17 pictures. Ppl just want to look at the pictures, and even if they enjoy or like them they don't respond, this is what I don't understand.

Compare an unknown user's thread (including nice pictures) with a wellknown user's. There is a huge difference. The whole karma thing has nothing to do with that what you grow, it has smthing to do with popularity. Maybe in my case the problem is my broken English, I saw some of the wellknown users complaining about ppl's wrong spelling and stuff, which I find not o.k to discuss about.

Moderator wrote "You gotta give to receive."
It looks like you haven't given enough in 2 years to get some. Here is some (I guess just one) karma for you.
You gave and received, I know how it works now ..."

General Question for all:
How do you compare the best "karma" systems out there to slashdot's points & filtration system?

http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml#cm600

Do those of you who want some kind of "karma" system also want the filtration that enables you to say, "show me only threads/posts that have a minimum threshold of xx points" ?? -- or do you mostly just care about the raw karma points themselves, and how they differentiate various users from one another?

how much are you willing to pay?

For me, it's a bidding war...

Name your price...

I agree.

So, "TheFlow", what's your definition of the Karma hack? How would you like it to work?

Josh

I told you I had most of it, and it would take me a week "rush" to finish. (if I was lucky) Personally, I don't like releasing my own work, selfish as it may seem. Sell it to a few people sure, but not publicly release. This will never be a lockdown hack, arg, I wish people would forget that hack. joecrow, maybe you should stick to pokemon, and not fake cc until you grow up a little.

snyx

PS- please don't refer to my private ICQ conversations unless I say its okay, for that your conversation is also publicly known.

For my purposes, the cuteness of karma points is irrelevant to me. What I want is in many ways opposite of what I have now read more closely on overgrow.com -- where they state it is less about the content of any given post and more about a "niceness" and reciprocation style of the user, in general. (That's oversimplifying it).

I'm much more interested in a tool that enables users to rate the usefullness (to them) of the content of the posts, independent of whether you like anything about the author himself/herself. Obvious restrictions against multiple voting, voting for self, etc.

Formulas, thresholds etc for tabulating & displaying of rating results need to have a relevance beyond simply "if there are 10 votes, display results as an average". I'm not a coder so I cannot define those requirements.

My real intent is to enable filtration in three principal ways:

(1) Browse Mode: whatever graphical display system is chosen to communicate ratings (stars are good), users can scan thread lists, member lists, search return lists, etc and easily see these displays, much like exists already for thread ratings.

(2) Targeted filtration: Posters who have negative ratings are good candidates for "ignore" lists

(3) Filtered browse: "show me only posts/threads that have a minimum threshold of x rating"

Edit: Oh yes, I want to be able to filter out annoying Guests, not just Registered users. Thus, the unreliable IP checking... But maybe someone knows a way of handling this.

Let me try again: how does selling work? is vB okay with this? Is this something that has to be done on the sly, as private transaction? Or do hacks like this sometimes get sold, legitimately, as something kind of like a 3rd-party plug-in? (I understand hacks are not plug & play auto-installed. I'm asking is vB cool with 3rd party sales of hacks, knowing already that anyone who installs any hack is ineligible for vB support of their licensed software? Any thoughts on this?

why wouldnt you be able to? its a hack, it includes no source code, and is written by the user.

Snyx, did he try contact you too? What happened? I believe it was him whom contacted me this morning about installing vbPortal 3 for him..

Hopefully I'm wrong.. If so, I apologise joecrow

Josh

No its the same guy.

I'm here and my Karma hack is solid code.

As stated above, I'm wary to release it publically due to competition now running vB. I am willing to sell it.

It needs a few hours work to have it 2.0.3 and CP workable. If you are willing to pay, I will incorporate whatever additional features you require. I'm sorry but I don't do bidding wars. This is my livelihood and I'm willing to customize it to your exact specs.

Please e-mail me if you wish to purchase the Overgrow Karma System:

webmaster@overgrow.com

I'm already working on this hack for some time and I have it nearly finished. Few hours of coding and it will be ready.

Let me know your requests by PM if you're not satisfied with Overgrow's price and I will make it for you.

nice to see capitalism is not dead within the confines of the hack release forum. :rolleyes:

I stated this awhile back.. a voodoo witch doctor gave me some good karma... which has helped on some things.. not all but some.. so I think I can pass along some of my karma to ya if ya want it :)

for maybe 5 bucks.. hehe :D

NL5
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does this seem just a bit odd to anyone else but me?
and now he is going to be a part of this bidding war?
whatever be the case, this is getting out of hand..this is not ebay.

Just to clarify, I am not involved in any bidding wars. I don't do business like that. People are offering to pay for the karma hack so I am obliging them by offering to sell it.

My Karma software has been running for over 8 months on a forum with 13,000 members and 250 people online. I have balanced my ratings and karmic power system over this period of time and have made all of the fixes and adjustments necessary for the system to run smoothly. This is not new code, it has been thorougly tested in a mid-level traffic environment. Believe me, a new Karma script will not be balanced and smooth out of the box.

Amen Overgrown :)

a lot of great things come with time and a lot of effort... I mean ya we can all slap something together.. but for it to work perfectly and smoothly.. there will have to be a lot of testing that will take time.

I know you are experienced vB user. But be honest! Such thing as karma hack needs one karma.php file ~10kb, one new table and few template adjustments. You really don't need an army of users to test this one.

Anybody interested PM me and I will send you specifications of this script- it will be working in 2.x (and after few changes in 1.1.x too). Its mechanism is based on description in discussions here.

Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

I would be interested in any one that has got this complete... just to give me some insite.. cause for some reason I just cannot get mine to work..

I might just have to start over... cause as me and Tora try to put one togethre it flops lol...

NL5, instead of asking for Overgrow to release his. Why don't you release yours.. Your almost done you said.

Josh

Mine has modifications to showthread and member for additional features. No, it is not a very complicated hack... as evident by the number of people who started writing it. It is a tough hack to do correctly, as evident by the number of people who have finished it and are running it (2).

I'm not downing what you're writing... just letting you know, if you just put some karmic power numbers in there and let it loose, hope it goes well, you will be in for a surprise. What I'm saying is that there were many many tweaks that went into the system only months after it had been online. Ask W.Luke if his Karma system worked out of the box.... I'm sure he'll agree.

>>Overgrow, many people are interested in this one-- why don't you release it? Its great but just little hack.

I know.. and I've always released every feature we've written for vBulletin (Images, Spiderfriend, query caching, etc)... but this is one thing that we have over the competition. Also I can only imagine the request for support if I put a hack of this sort out... Also I don't make pretty install routines and nice table creators, which pisses people off. I'd rather sell to a few clients if they're interested and make a bit of cash.. this is what I do after all.

More power to you if yours works out as a public release.

>>What I'm saying is that there were many many tweaks that went into the system only months after it had been online.

True-- it has to be balanced. But more important than time spent with testing is size & traffic of the site. That needs to be really fine tuned.

>>this is one thing that we have over the competition.

I agree and don't plan to "release" it for public. Second reason as you already stated is that I want pure functional hack and don't plan to make real installation script.

And good luck to you with sales.

Karma for vB 2.03: Installation routine and everything...

Control Panel 1...

Cpanel 2...

Cpanel 3... It was fun learning how to hack on 2.0...

I am in love :)