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Boofo 07-17-2011 05:44 PM

Justice Served
 
Dispatcher: Hello, what's your emergency?
Caller: I've got a bunch of people that want to kill me!
Dispatcher: What's your name?
Caller: Casey Anthony!!
Dispatcher: Okay, try to stay calm and an officer should be there sometime after 31 days!

Frosty 07-17-2011 11:15 PM

That's definitely something I'll never understand. A lot of people killed a lot of people (that's just the way it is), and they get (almost) no negative publicity, while Casey is getting even death threats.

It's just funny how people make a fuss about a dead kid, and do nothing about serial killers, rapers, gangbangers, and all those who do the damage. I'm not saying that kid didn't deserve the justice or whatsoever, but there's no justice in killing. You just kill the person, nothing happens... You feel just about the same like before.

Those idiots should get a new hobby, as I'm pretty sure this one sucks.

Boofo 07-17-2011 11:22 PM

A mother killing their own child will always trump any other kind of violent crime.

BirdOPrey5 07-17-2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2221675)
A mother killing their own child will always trump any other kind of violent crime.

I must disagree. I will forgive someone for killing their own kid before I'd forgive them for killing someone they weren't related to.

I also feel the hate shown to Casey Anthony is out of control and the people sprouting death threats should be ashamed of themselves. The system found her not guilty- move on with your own lives. Some lady in Oklahoma was run off the road and nearly killed because a crazy woman thought it was Casey Anthony.

Boofo 07-17-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221679)
The system found her not guilty- move on with your own lives.

Which proves the system is flawed beyond reproach.

BirdOPrey5 07-18-2011 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2221683)
Which proves the system is flawed beyond reproach.

No system is perfect but this case hardly proves anything. One major case doesn't go the way the public wants every 10 years isn't too bad.

TheLastSuperman 07-18-2011 12:28 AM

Our legal system, personally imo is worthless. It's more wrapped around a political and money stick then wall street is, like a kid flailing a lollipop around in excitement.

31 Days are you kidding me there's nothing else to be said, no defense and certainly before anyone goes any further into the case to make their own decision must admit that there in itself is utterly unforgivable. Of course not everyone has a near heart attack when their child is missing for more than 30 seconds other then me at about 5 seconds, instinct is what I'll call it where was hers?

To err is human; to err for 31 days is a sheer disgrace to the human race.

IMO People, imo...

Boofo 07-18-2011 12:31 AM

Someone sent me this a little while ago and I think it sums it all up expertly.

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Forgive? No. Anger can be negative , as you say . And it can be positive, also as you say. Anger fuels action. Casey Anthony worked the system. Even by the admission of her legal counsel, she worked it. Caylee won't come back, that's true. None of us can bring her back. What we can for for all the Caylee's of the world is to never let those who had a hand in their demise forget that there are eyes watching them. Forgiveness? Does it really lighten a burden that one carries around? Or does it garner positive feelings and responses from those who are informed that forgiveness has been given. There are some events, and some acts in this life that do not require, nor deserve forgiveness. This is an instance of a person who committed an act, either on her own, or in collusion with others, and she got away with it. Those charged with deciding her fate, for whatever fallibility on their part, chose to acquit her. So be it.That is the law of the land. We must respect it, but we don't have to agree, nor like it. I have to wonder if Casey was really innocent, why in three years time could she not provide one shred of credible evidence that she was innocent. Why would a truly innocent person take great care to misdirect those trying to find her child. Why do that? The look on her face the day of the sentencing said it all. Society has taken a tact of removing accountability from ones' actions. And those that do harm to others are reaping the benefits of that. No, Casey is not deserving of forgiveness. To forgive her is to condone her behavior, and that is not acceptable. When someone does something and takes ownership of it, apologizes and asks for forgiveness, perhaps they are worthy. Casey did not do that. Now it's coming to light all the money that has changed hands- given to her, to her parents, to a juror, and possibly more jurors. Can that be forgiven? Financial gain connected to the death of a child? Forgiveness only assuages the emotions of the one doing the forgiving. And perhaps, if that palliative was not received, there could be more positive outcomes from a position of anger.

Frosty 07-18-2011 12:50 AM

@Boofo
Now that's plain ol' bullshit (letter), and you know it. I hate when people pretend that they care, when they actually don't. Caylee was related to them? They knew her? Or they're simply picking on Casey because they have nothing else to do? Again, I'm not defending Casey, and I couldn't care less about the whole case, but I don't like stupid people either. Especially ones that are avoiding their life to pretend they care about someone else's life.

Pretty sad to be honest. But I agree that system needs a change, in every country of course. System did a number on some people, even though they weren't guility. But then again, as I said.. We can't change shit, hence there's no point in discussing.

BirdOPrey5 07-18-2011 12:59 AM

Quote:

I have to wonder if Casey was really innocent, why in three years time could she not provide one shred of credible evidence that she was innocent.
You do not have to prove your innocence. The State must prove your guilt. And the 12 people with the best seat in the house unanimously agreed the State cold not prove Murder.

Case closed.

Boofo 07-18-2011 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 2221719)
@Boofo
Now that's plain ol' bullshit (letter), and you know it.

I disagree. It is not bs. It happens to be the way a lot of people fell about this whole case. Justice was NOT served for Caylee. The only redeeming thing out of all of this is she is prone to do something stupid again and then she will get her just desserts. She is headed on the same path that OJ was.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221726)
You do not have to prove your innocence. The State must prove your guilt. And the 12 people with the best seat in the house unanimously agreed the State cold not prove Murder.

Case closed.

I will admit that the state was not ready for this case and the work was shoddy. But that doesn't excuse a mother killing her own child, in any way, shape or form.

TNCclubman 07-18-2011 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221726)
You do not have to prove your innocence. The State must prove your guilt. And the 12 people with the best seat in the house unanimously agreed the State cold not prove Murder.

Case closed.

quoted for truth

BirdOPrey5 07-18-2011 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2221730)
I disagree. It is not bs. It happens to be the way a lot of people fell about this whole case. Justice was NOT served for Caylee. The only redeeming thing out of all of this is she is prone to do something stupid again and then she will get her just desserts. She is headed on the same path that OJ was.



I will admit that the state was not ready for this case and the work was shoddy. But that doesn't excuse a mother killing her own child, in any way, shape or form.

I wasn't aware you witnessed the murder... You should have told someone they could have called you to testify.

Boofo 07-18-2011 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221783)
I wasn't aware you witnessed the murder... You should have told someone they could have called you to testify.

All the signs are there, you just have to open your damned eyes and look at them like a lot of America is doing.

Reycer 07-18-2011 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221783)
I wasn't aware you witnessed the murder... You should have told someone they could have called you to testify.

It's common sense. Who "loses their kid" and then goes and parties? Seriously!

I have said this on my forum as well as other forums, I do beleive that she at the very least had a hand in killing her daughter, whether or not she struck the final blow...only God knows. Casey Anthony is a sick person.

This is her reaction after the jury said Not Guilty.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/07/63.jpg

Boofo 07-18-2011 04:39 AM

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Here's a better pic that shows how devious she really is.

BirdOPrey5 07-18-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2221789)
It's common sense. Who "loses their kid" and then goes and parties? Seriously!

I have said this on my forum as well as other forums, I do beleive that she at the very least had a hand in killing her daughter, whether or not she struck the final blow...only God knows. Casey Anthony is a sick person.

This is her reaction after the jury said Not Guilty.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/07/63.jpg

Yo realize if she "only had a hand" in killing her daughter such as if she hired someone to do it, by law the jury made the right decision.

This was a capital murder case... You can't convict someone because you feel she looks evil or "things don't just add up" or "it smells fishy." I agree 100% it smells fishy. But even the stank of a hastily abandoned fish market on a 100 degree day does not come close to sentencing someone for murder, let alone to death.

As for going partying every night- I would probably not do that but I must admit I'm not really sure how I'd react because it hasn't happened to me. It doesn't take a PhD in psychology to accept that many people "grieve" in their own way-
  • Some people get depressed and stay home/cry...
  • Some people want to keep busy and go right back to work/school (that was me)...
  • Some people want to be surrounded by their friends-
  • Some people want to be alone.
It is not that big of a stretch in my opinion that somewhere in the entire USA there is a woman who wants to "party" as an expression of grief.

Ironically if most people do die I'm sure they'd want their loved ones to go out and party and be happy- to celebrate life- not to sit around and cry on each others shoulders.

If you believe in it then she will face ultimate judgement one day and HAVE to answer for her past to the only one who really counts. We put her through our imperfect human justice system and she did not get convicted. It's OK if you don't want to invite her to your home but the incredible hate this has generated is not healthy for you or this country. The best thing to do is just let her be at this point and move on with your own lives- hug your own kids extra tight tonight, but move on.

Reycer 07-27-2011 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2221863)
Yo realize if she "only had a hand" in killing her daughter such as if she hired someone to do it, by law the jury made the right decision.

This was a capital murder case... You can't convict someone because you feel she looks evil or "things don't just add up" or "it smells fishy." I agree 100% it smells fishy. But even the stank of a hastily abandoned fish market on a 100 degree day does not come close to sentencing someone for murder, let alone to death.

You do realize that she wasn't ONLY tried for capitol murder, right? She was also found Not Guilty of Manslaughter, Second Degree Murder, and Child Neglect.

Paul M 07-27-2011 12:24 AM

I take it this is some legal case in the US ?

Reycer 07-27-2011 01:34 AM

Paul,
Yup, was about as big (media wise) as the O.J. trial. Mother (Casey) was accused of killing her daughter (Caylee).

HMBeaty 07-27-2011 02:34 AM

Well, to sum it all up....

O.J. killed his wife
Casey killed her daughter

http://funnypicblast.com/wp-content/...me-400x257.jpg

BirdOPrey5 07-27-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225388)
You do realize that she wasn't ONLY tried for capitol murder, right? She was also found Not Guilty of Manslaughter, Second Degree Murder, and Child Neglect.

You are mistaken.

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On October 14, 2008, Casey Anthony was indicted by a grand jury on charges of first degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child, and four counts of providing false information to police. She was later arrested.[39][40] Judge John Jordan ordered that she be held without bond.[41] On October 21, 2008, the charges of child neglect were dropped against Casey, according to the State Attorney's Office because ?the evidence proved that the child was deceased, the State sought an indictment on the legally appropriate charges."[42] On October 28th Anthony was arraigned and pled not guilty to all charges.[43]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony

Boofo 07-27-2011 10:41 AM

Does it matter? Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

HMBeaty 07-27-2011 10:44 AM

Look at the date, that was 2008.... this is the more recent one.....
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Verdict and sentence

On July 5, 2011, the jury found Casey Anthony not guilty of first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter, and aggravated child abuse. She was found guilty on four misdemeanor counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer.
On July 7, 2011, sentencing arguments were heard. The defense asked for the sentencing to be based on one count of lying on the grounds that the offenses occurred as part of a single interview with police dealing with the same matter, the disappearance of her daughter, as one continuous lie. The defense also argued for concurrent sentences, that is for all four counts to become one count and the sentence to run together as one. The judge disagreed with defense arguments, finding that Anthony's statements consisted of "four distinct, separate lies" ordered the sentences be served consecutively, noting that "Law enforcement expended a great deal of time, energy and manpower looking for Caylee Marie Anthony. This search went on from July through December, over several months, trying to find Caylee Marie Anthony."[84]Judge Perry sentenced her as follows:
  • Count Four: The defendant told law enforcement that she was employed at Universal Studios during 2008, pursuant to the investigation of a missing persons report.
  • Count Five: The defendant told law enforcement that she had left Caylee at an apartment complex with a babysitter causing law enforcement to pursue the missing babysitter.
  • Count Six: The defendant told law enforcement that she informed two "employees" of Universal Studios, Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis, at Universal, of the disappearance of Caylee.
  • Count Seven: The defendant told law enforcement that she had received a call and spoke to Caylee on July 15, 2008 causing law enforcement to expend further resources. [85]
Judge Perry sentenced Anthony to one year in jail and $1,000 in fines for each of the four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer, the maximum penalty prescribed by law. She received three years credit for time served plus additional credit for good behavior, resulting in her release on July 17, 2011.[86] Anthony filed a notice of appeal on July 15, 2011.[87] [88]
Eh, nevermind lol. Read the previous post wrong. (Just woke up :D)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225497)
Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

Because she isn't. :)

Ted S 07-27-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225497)
Does it matter? Even the jury said they don't believe she is innocent.

That's not how the presumption of innocence works. The facts must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an act was done and that the act meets a certain level of punishment. This must be done only with the information provided -- media comments, speculation and even cold hard facts that are not admitted are not applicable.

You can know someone did it but not be able to qualify it as past that threshold in which case, as a juror, you can't convict the person... hence why she was found not guilty, the verdict is never "innocent". Furthermore when a decision is made to try a case with limited outcomes [like capital murder only] it places a far higher burden on the jury and gives them less options. For a jury to decide on anything but the facts and the standard is precisely how people end up in jail for things they did not do... listening to your heart/ gut rather than the evidence is not how this system has ever worked, nor should it be.

Most importantly, it's time to stop fixating on one person and one case. When we sensationalize these trials it puts them under such a microscope that the whole process becomes a mess. What makes her murder so special to warrant a thread versus the dozens of other similar cases?

Boofo 07-27-2011 02:36 PM

The thread started out with a simple joke and nothing more.

And what makes her murder so special is she was an innocent child caught in a web of lies and murder, no matter how you look at it. Anytime a child dies at the hands of a parent it needs to become a "mess" so it is not allowed to keep happening over and over again. If we as a society can't stop it, then what kind of future does any child hope to have?

HMBeaty 07-27-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 2225606)
The thread started out with a simple joke and nothing more.

I actually thought of a new one earlier as I was on my way home.

You know O.J. tried to come out with a book title something like "How I Would've Killed My Wife" but they wouldn't let him?

I wonder if Casey is going to try to come out with something similar, titled "How I Would've Killed My Daughter"

LOL

Reycer 07-27-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMBeaty (Post 2225609)
I actually thought of a new one earlier as I was on my way home.

You know O.J. tried to come out with a book title something like "How I Would've Killed My Wife" but they wouldn't let him?

I wonder if Casey is going to try to come out with something similar, titled "How I Would've Killed My Daughter"

LOL

Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

BirdOPrey5 07-27-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225631)
Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

A lot of people made the same comment in the hours after Casey was found not guilty. Sometimes real life is stranger than fiction. But truth be told I don't think the book was OJ's idea- a publisher went to HIM with the concept of the book and then backed out after getting bad PR.

Boofo 07-27-2011 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 2225631)
Sorry I seriously fail to see humor in that at all. That was a bit distasteful.

I agree that is was a little off-color. But this did start out as a harmless joke thread.

I don't expect Casey to even come close to trying anything like that. Especially since Caylee was so young and her own daughter.


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