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HellRZR 06-20-2011 11:50 AM

Who wants a new Media Library?
 
Good morning all,

I am presenting using 8WayRun.Com - Media Library. As you are all aware this is a great mod and a great asset to any website unfortunately the developer has left the mod and the VB community as well.

So I took it upon myself to find a developer (Lancerforhire) who would be interested in making a new version of this mod.

Lancerforhiore has done private work for me and I can attest to his professionalism and the way he supports his mods.

Of course this WILL NOT be free, it requires me to find 15 people who are willing to invest 50 dollars each.

Benefits:

New version of the mod, with new functionality and supported!
We will release the mod after its developed to the general community.

If you are interested, reply here, I will send you a PM and let you know where you can Paypal your contribution. You will only send your money once we have all the 15 people we need.

Any takers?

Contributors so far :
1- HellRzR
2- Mark4865
3- dai-kun
4- stained
5- stefanus
6- lvc;
7- equinoxworld
8- chocolate angel
9- paulket
10- karamayros
11- cherylferraro
12- HellRzR
13 - Gobble

paulket 06-20-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRZR (Post 2210362)
Of course this WILL NOT be free, it requires me to find 15 people who are willing to invest 50 dollars each.

I'm all for paying for a similar mod to the 8WayRun.Com - Media Library mod and I already sent a PM to Lancerforhire. What I'm not willing to do is pay for something sight unseen, which I think is being requested here. Am I wrong (I hope that I am)?

HellRZR 06-20-2011 03:58 PM

All I am looking for is commitment from 15 people, of course Lancerforhire will want some kind of payment prior to starting the project, and I am sure you agree that this is the norm.

vbresults 06-20-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulket (Post 2210427)
I'm all for paying for a similar mod to the 8WayRun.Com - Media Library mod and I already sent a PM to Lancerforhire. What I'm not willing to do is pay for something sight unseen, which I think is being requested here. Am I wrong (I hope that I am)?

The development progress will be visible on a second forum so it will be pretty "hands on" :). I typically use a certain escrow service for projects like this but the requests are usually from one person or company, not 15.

At any rate, we are assembling in a private forum to map out the mod before anything happens; we just need to gather the 15 contributors first. This is going to be an interactive development process, not just click "Send Payment" and wait. :p

EquinoxWorld 06-20-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulket (Post 2210427)
I'm all for paying for a similar mod to the 8WayRun.Com - Media Library mod and I already sent a PM to Lancerforhire. What I'm not willing to do is pay for something sight unseen, which I think is being requested here. Am I wrong (I hope that I am)?

I agree with you but I also know that some payment should be made before hand, it's simply a better logistics approach to the project.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRZR (Post 2210466)
All I am looking for is commitment from 15 people, of course Lancerforhire will want some kind of payment prior to starting the project, and I am sure you agree that this is the norm.

Please right me down as I have also contacted Lancerforhire via pm. I agree that is the norm. I am willing to give 50% before hand and the other 50% upon completion.

One question I have is to what extent will this new modification be like 8way media library? Will we be able to transfer all the videos we have now in Media Library? Along with all the playlists and such?

One suggestion I have is to gather ideas to add to this script. Media Library is a good script but it is incomplete in some areas. Will there be a chance to add new features or simply rewrite media Library?

We (our other co-founder and I) have been gathering for some time a "layout" if you will of what a video script should be. We have been studying different script from different sites and gathered all the best features from all of them. Will we be able to participate these studies to perhaps include them in the new script? I feel we all have a better chance of producing something extraordinary if we all pitch in and contribute.

Mariner1 06-20-2011 08:06 PM

pm sent Lancerforhire :)

HellRZR 06-20-2011 08:07 PM

Thus far, we have 5 people who are interested, we need 10 more.

EquinoxWorld 06-20-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210550)
The development progress will be visible on a second forum so it will be pretty "hands on" :). I typically use a certain escrow service for projects like this but the requests are usually from one person or company, not 15.

At any rate, we are assembling in a private forum to map out the mod before anything happens; we just need to gather the 15 contributors first. This is going to be an interactive development process, not just click "Send Payment" and wait. :p

Sounds good to me, specially the interactive bit, can't wait to see what we all come up with. :)

P.S.: We should have a list on the first post of the people who are interested so we can all keep count. Just saying so we can all help move this along and be on the same page.

HellRZR 06-20-2011 08:27 PM

Lancer can you provide me the names of the people we have thus far, I will update the first post as requested.

paulket 06-20-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210550)
At any rate, we are assembling in a private forum to map out the mod before anything happens; we just need to gather the 15 contributors first. This is going to be an interactive development process, not just click "Send Payment" and wait. :p

Count me as one of the 15.

Mark4865 06-20-2011 09:04 PM

Lancerforhire & HellRZR you know I am in and would be happy to pay, it is a steal at that price

dai-kun 06-20-2011 11:57 PM

PM sent.

vbresults 06-21-2011 12:25 AM

Sorry I was unclear about this previously; I quoted this like a regular project; the 15 contributions of $50 are for creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.

Any features past that will require more time/labor on my part than the initial quote and will have to be paid for separately; I want to make sure everyone is clear on that. I am still supporting the modification for free in regards to bug fixes and vB updates, which is the reason we are doing this in the first place. When I say the committee is mapping out the mod (in the context of no more than the initial contributions of $50), I mean mapping within the existing feature set like minor improvements, "move X over there", "change this to X", etc.

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210650)
Sorry I was unclear about this previously; I quoted this like a regular project; the 15 contributions of $50 are for creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.

Any features past that will require more time/labor on my part than the initial quote and will have to be paid for separately; I want to make sure everyone is clear on that. I am still supporting the modification for free in regards to bug fixes and vB updates, which is the reason we are doing this in the first place. When I say the committee is mapping out the mod (in the context of no more than the initial contributions of $50), I mean mapping within the existing feature set like minor improvements, "move X over there", "change this to X", etc.

Understood. Thank you for the clarification, we're looking forward to the project.

HellRZR 06-21-2011 12:46 AM

List update in the first post.

@lancerforhire - Thanks for clearing this up, the last thing we need is misinformation.

8thos 06-21-2011 02:14 AM

Will we also be able to let members upload videos directly to the server and then played back like YouTube? If so, count me in.


Also, consider using youtube api to let members upload to YouTube directly from the forum. http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/overview.html

karamayros 06-21-2011 06:54 AM

PM sent.

Mariner1 06-21-2011 08:54 AM

i sent a pm to lancerforhire and mentioned it in this thread.How come im not on the list pls

MonkYZ 06-21-2011 10:17 AM

I will gladly buy this product, but unfortunatelly i can't pay for "dreams". After i will see something beeing accomplished, i will contribute for sure. Untill then, sorry... but i only see enthusiasm. Don't get me wrong, but i have learned to not trust anyone on the internet (after loosing money so many times)... specially members who just registered this year (HellRZR). As for Lancerforhire, i can only see two mods on vBulletin.org... which is not enough for me. If you'll take a look inside 8WayRun.Com - Media Library you will notice a ton of templates and coding required... nothing to be getting easy, specially if they say "will start from scratch".

If this would be one of the "easy mods", there would be at least 5 other media library mods over vBulletin.org. And what if we pay for this project and becomes just like 8WayRun did... a lost project? What if there will be more money required? Or what if it will take an year for Lancerforhire to finish this project?

Sorry, too many unknown variables for me. If i could see a project with a timeline, with exactly what's to be done and what not... exactly how much money the coder estimates for programming... then it would be another matter.

P.S. Why not trying to get in touch with the 8WayRun.com - Media Library coder (Jaxel)... maybe he will just let you continue his work? It would be much faster, and much more reliable than starting from scratch. And will not take forever. Just my 50 cents (or bucks if i have to)...

Mark4865 06-21-2011 10:50 AM

Wow MonkYZ harsh words U think.

Lancerforhire recently did a mod for me from scratch and he was BRILLIANT. He quoted a price, and a timeline and finshed it perfectly before he said he would. He was not only knowledgeable and helpful but went out of his way to make sure everything worked perfectly for me and I would recommend his services to anyone a hundred times over.

The fee he is asking to do the mod for those interested is for nothing and not going to break the bank and he is offering to support it which he is proved he does on his other mods.

Also passing judgement on people who have only been on the board for less than a year (HellRZR) just shows bad form, you dont even give them a chance to prove themselves. HellRZR has also been very helpful to me giving me time and help for nothing with some stuff I have struggled with.

Just because you have been ripped off before doesnt mean everyone is out there to rip you off

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkYZ (Post 2210793)
I will gladly buy this product, but unfortunatelly i can't pay for "dreams". After i will see something beeing accomplished, i will contribute for sure. Untill then, sorry... but i only see enthusiasm. Don't get me wrong, but i have learned to not trust anyone on the internet (after loosing money so many times)... specially members who just registered this year (HellRZR). As for Lancerforhire, i can only see two mods on vBulletin.org... which is not enough for me. If you'll take a look inside 8WayRun.Com - Media Library you will notice a ton of templates and coding required... nothing to be getting easy, specially if they say "will start from scratch".

If this would be one of the "easy mods", there would be at least 5 other media library mods over vBulletin.org. And what if we pay for this project and becomes just like 8WayRun did... a lost project? What if there will be more money required? Or what if it will take an year for Lancerforhire to finish this project?

Sorry, too many unknown variables for me. If i could see a project with a timeline, with exactly what's to be done and what not... exactly how much money the coder estimates for programming... then it would be another matter.

P.S. Why not trying to get in touch with the 8WayRun.com - Media Library coder (Jaxel)... maybe he will just let you continue his work? It would be much faster, and much more reliable than starting from scratch. And will not take forever. Just my 50 cents (or bucks if i have to)...

Point well taken and understood. I know what your saying but for us at least we have no option but to be positive and enthusiastic, we have been tied to this mod for quite some time now and are in desperate need of something updated and revamped. Although I also do not trust any one online I believe this project will be transparent and interactive as Lancerforhire suggested it would be. I'm sure we can all come up with an agreement we call can live with and fell comfortable with. Besides it's not like we're gonna be paying hundreds or thousand of dollars. The dev said it would be $50 for 15 people with the project being outlined before hand and any other work or extra features we want to add would be paid separately. I believe he was clear enough on that for me to feel comfortable with.

In any case I will not myself go ask Jaxel to revisit his abandoned mod, he abandoned it for a reason and I don't think he's going to be back at it for a minimal sum of cash. He says he does not want to come back to vb to make a point and I respect him for it and if he's not gonna support the mod then why bother. Besides I already paid him once and I'm not gonna do it again.

HellRZR 06-21-2011 11:10 AM

Good morning gentlemen. :)

It all comes down to this!

Some of us need a working, supported version of this mod more than others and are willing to pay for it. BUT, the purpose of this group, if I can call it a group, is to have this mod redone by Lancerforhire and then release it for FREE to the vb.org community.

So gentlemen, no one will look down on you if you don't participate, you will end up with this mod anyways. :)

I understand your concerns, I have been down that road many times. However in all the dealings I have had with Lancer, I have nothing negative to say about him.

As far as my involvement, well I along with Mark4865 came up with this idea and we just wanted to see if there was an interest here at vb.org for such a project.

Jaxel did a great thing with his mod and from my understanding didn't leave the mod, he left VB all together. Others asked for his permission to continue/update his mod and unfortunately he refused, which I cant blame him one bit for. He put allot of time and effort in his media library and wants to keep it for himself.

**contributor list updated.

Thanks to all for reading and for your participation in this mod.

MonkYZ 06-21-2011 11:12 AM

Mark4865: Sorry if i was using "hars words". It was not my intention. But as EquinoxWorld said, i already paid for 8WayRun.Com - Media Library and what do i got 6 months later? An unsupported mod and me with the imposibillity to upgrade my forum because the mod became very popular on my website... and it's not working properly with 4.1.4. Plus it doesn't even know the new youtu.be format (not even speaking about other video sources).

So, i only wanted to point out we need somebody really serious involved into this... Maybe i would've paid 10 times more that he asked and i would feel good (for a product i can put my hands on, test it and so on)... but even if i pay 1 buck and i see nothing, it's still a bad deal for me. It's not about the sum... it's about how i would like to see things.

For example... if this media will be good, but unable to import the database from the other media (Video Directory & 8WayRun.Com - Media Library)... for me it would mean nothing, as i can't start from scratch. But that's just me. I will be watching how this project goes... and gladly offer my support, beta testing and money if it has to.

Thank you for understanding and keep up the good work!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210650)
the 15 contributions of $50 are for creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRZR (Post 2210811)
BUT, the purpose of this group, if I can call it a group, is to have this mod redone by Lancerforhire

What is it after all? A brand new mod, or a redone mod?

HellRZR 06-21-2011 11:40 AM

Hi MonkYZ

The purpose of the group is as follows :

Have a new mod with current functionality of the current mod along with an import script to be able to transfer from the current media library.

Quote from Lancerforhire : creating a brand new, stable media library mod with the same features. The new mod will clearly have optimizations, performance improvements, and of course and a script to transfer over the media data from the old mod.

If as a group with decide that we want extra functionality, then still will have to be negotiated with Lancerforhire and will have extra fees.

Each of us will have different needs I guess, but I think a wise approach is to start with a base product which and then do add-ons as per user requirements.

Hope this answers your questions...

Mariner1 06-21-2011 11:55 AM

Looking forward to this when completed.

One question.Do the 15 or so pay for this mod then once completed everyone can download it for free.Im on the list btw,i dont mind paying to help out

HellRZR 06-21-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariner1 (Post 2210826)
Looking forward to this when completed.

One question.Do the 15 or so pay for this mod then once completed everyone can download it for free.Im on the list btw,i dont mind paying to help out

Yes that is the plan, once completed it will be released for free to the vb.org community. :)

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRZR (Post 2210824)
Hi MonkYZ

If as a group with decide that we want extra functionality, then still will have to be negotiated with Lancerforhire and will have extra fees.

Each of us will have different needs I guess, but I think a wise approach is to start with a base product which and then do add-ons as per user requirements.

Sounds perfect to me. We should start off with a base script with the same features Media Library has now and then move on from there if anyone or we all want to but the main idea is to first get a new script with all the same functionality as Media Library and import script, beyond there it's up to us; individually or as a group.

BTW 3 MORE!!!! xD c'mon people!!!!

8thos 06-21-2011 01:03 PM

I see a lot of people complaining about vaporware so...

May we please see some of LancerforHire's more sophisticated works?

This would relieve doubts and earn more contributions.

Alfa1 06-21-2011 02:40 PM

Would this media gallery be integrated with the CMS?
Will it be a CMS content type? Can we arrange the layout with the CMS? Can we add CMS widgets to the media gallery? Will new entries / comments show up in whats new?
Will it have reputation functionality?

A media gallery is a massive undertaking that should not be underestimated though.

vbresults 06-21-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octavius. (Post 2210848)
I see a lot of people complaining about vaporware so...

May we please see some of LancerforHire's more sophisticated works?

This would relieve doubts and earn more contributions.

I have nearly 50 reviews for professional work, mostly for vBulletin (43/47). One of the more sophisticated and recent examples of my work is the World Map (V?RLDSKARTA in Swedish) system located here. I typically work using an escrow system for the security of both the client and myself, but this is not practical with fifteen people.

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 2210888)
Would this media gallery be integrated with the CMS?
Will it be a CMS content type? Can we arrange the layout with the CMS? Can we add CMS widgets to the media gallery? Will new entries / comments show up in whats new?
Will it have reputation functionality?


A media gallery is a massive undertaking that should not be underestimated though.

To my understanding (so far) is that this new mod will have ALL the same features that Media Library has (and possibly more). Lancerforhire I'm sure will layout the specifics when we gather all the contributors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210889)
I have nearly 50 reviews for professional work, mostly for vBulletin (43/47). One of the more sophisticated and recent examples of my work is the World Map (V?RLDSKARTA in Swedish) system located here. I typically work using an escrow system for the security of both the client and myself, but this is not practical with fifteen people.

Looks good Lancerforhire. Thanks for sharing your work.

cherylferraro 06-21-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRZR (Post 2210362)
If you are interested, reply here, I will send you a PM and let you know where you can Paypal your contribution. You will only send your money once we have all the 15 people we need.

Any takers?

Please add my name to the list. I sent lancerforhire a pm a day or 2 ago but never got a response.

8thos 06-21-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210889)
I have nearly 50 reviews for professional work, mostly for vBulletin (43/47). One of the more sophisticated and recent examples of my work is the World Map (V?RLDSKARTA in Swedish) system located here. I typically work using an escrow system for the security of both the client and myself, but this is not practical with fifteen people.

Hey that world map cms widget looks pretty cool. Is it like digitalpoint's world map or better?

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 04:41 PM

2 more people!!!!! Woot woot :) Can't wait to get this ball rolling.

S3Ponline 06-21-2011 04:45 PM

I would rather pay dbtech the money to do this mod that way we can get integration with other mods, continued updating, new features, etc.

That’d be a lot better than just, “Let’s build the same application again and have someone manage who may stop at some later point and date."

EquinoxWorld 06-21-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S3Ponline (Post 2210956)
I would rather pay dbtech the money to do this mod that way we can get integration with other mods, continued updating, new features, etc.

That’d be a lot better than just, “Let’s build the same application again and have someone manage who may stop at some later point and date."

DBtech has their hands full at all times, they have a bunch of projects going right now (like vbarcade) and I doubt they even have staff for this one now or in the near future. Besides if dbtech makes it they have to sell it afterwards therefore it will not cost us the low amount this new mod will costs us, it will probably be much much more.

And FYI I sent a request to the admin there asking for a custom mod (paid) a couple of weeks ago and I never even got a reply back. That leads me to believe they have their own plans and are not looking for custom scripts outside of their own.

paulket 06-21-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octavius. (Post 2210948)
Hey that world map cms widget looks pretty cool. Is it like digitalpoint's world map or better?

LOL, I would like to have that as well. Very nice.

vbresults 06-21-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octavius. (Post 2210948)
Hey that world map cms widget looks pretty cool. Is it like digitalpoint's world map or better?

Better. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulket (Post 2210983)
LOL, I would like to have that as well. Very nice.

It's not for sale unfortunately. Due to the size of the project and the costs involved in making it, I agreed to not redistribute the work.

HellRZR 06-21-2011 08:13 PM

Ok Folks, I put myself down twice, meaning I am willing to go in for 100, that leaves one spot left...Who is in? Lets get the ball rolling on this...

8thos 06-21-2011 09:41 PM

Upon further inspection that world map IS better.

Edit: LOL Someone said your map is racist.


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