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borbole 05-06-2010 10:00 PM

Default Usergroup in Registration
 
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This mod will allow you to place all the newly registered members at a usergroup of your choise. The process is automatically. All you have to do after you install the mod, is to enable it and enter the group id that you want the new members to be placed automatically after they register at your forum. You can do so at your Acp-Settings-Options-User Registration Options. All the way to the bottom you will see the mod''s 2 settings. For more info, please have a look at the atatched screenshot below.

sigh 05-15-2010 10:16 PM

Doesn't work for me ... adds the option just fine, but new registrations are still going into the default Registered user group.

sigh 05-15-2010 10:23 PM

Nevermind - PEBKAC

borbole 05-15-2010 10:23 PM

Did you enable it as well? May I see a screenshot of the mod setting?

Zachery 05-16-2010 04:11 PM

I would be very careful with a modification like this. vBulletin basicly has the registered usergroup hardcoded for a lot of things.

borbole 05-16-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2037986)
I would be very careful with a modification like this. vBulletin basicly has the registered usergroup hardcoded for a lot of things.

Can you give a few examples please as to why you should be very careful with this? This mod doesn''t post any security risks what so ever.

irrimiri 09-08-2010 08:36 PM

Hello, this mod was exactly what I was looking for.

Could you tell me how to install this? Do I just upload it to the install folder of my forum?

borbole 09-08-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrimiri (Post 2095580)
Hello, this mod was exactly what I was looking for.

Could you tell me how to install this? Do I just upload it to the install folder of my forum?

Install it from Plugins & Products->Manage Products->[Add/Import Product]->EITHER upload the XML file from your computer in your Acp.

irrimiri 09-08-2010 08:50 PM

thanks for your fast reply :)

borbole 09-09-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrimiri (Post 2095583)
thanks for your fast reply :)

You are welcome :)

optimatez 09-23-2010 01:43 PM

anyway to get this working on 3.8? Would love to be able to set new users to automatically go into the 3 groups i have to put them in manually at the moment. Is there anyway to specify which group is primary and which groups are additional when you add several groups for them to join? Thanks :) Hope to see this on 3.8 :-D

imedic 09-29-2010 01:13 PM

I think this mod is perfect for a security improvement you can do in VB (inpired from vbseo forum)
Set a temporary usergrup for registrations that has limited capabilities (just posting and reading, no bb code, file upload ... ) and make a promotion scheme to move users to default registered usergroup in vb with normal wrights after they have 10 messages (for example)
This way you prevent any spammer/ possible hacker to open doors in vb.
Is highly unprobable a hacker will have time to post 10 messages you will not delete so he can hack you.

Tagged for now as I am still setting up my forum :)

BirdOPrey5 09-29-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imedic (Post 2104618)
I think this mod is perfect for a security improvement you can do in VB (inpired from vbseo forum)
Set a temporary usergrup for registrations that has limited capabilities (just posting and reading, no bb code, file upload ... ) and make a promotion scheme to move users to default registered usergroup in vb with normal wrights after they have 10 messages (for example)
This way you prevent any spammer/ possible hacker to open doors in vb.
Is highly unprobable a hacker will have time to post 10 messages you will not delete so he can hack you.

Tagged for now as I am still setting up my forum :)

If you have yet to setup your forum you can set it up like that without this mod... just make registered users a limited permissions group and promote everyone to a new group after 10 posts.

Zachery 09-29-2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2104627)
If you have yet to setup your forum you can set it up like that without this mod... just make registered users a limited permissions group and promote everyone to a new group after 10 posts.

EXACTLY, don't understand why people work so hard against the system.

borbole 09-29-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2104727)
EXACTLY, don't understand why people work so hard against the system.

As they say, different people, different tastes/likings :)

BirdOPrey5 09-29-2010 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2104727)
EXACTLY, don't understand why people work so hard against the system.

I see use for this mod for people with established boards who don't want to bother running sql queries to change hundreds or thousands (or more) usergroups than go to promotions system like this... In those cases I could definitely see use for this mod, I tagged it way back when.

Zachery 10-03-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2104786)
I see use for this mod for people with established boards who don't want to bother running sql queries to change hundreds or thousands (or more) usergroups than go to promotions system like this... In those cases I could definitely see use for this mod, I tagged it way back when.

What queries do you have to run?

Setup the promotion, and run the promotion cron, it'll fix all of the users. No queries.

BirdOPrey5 10-04-2010 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2106480)
What queries do you have to run?

Setup the promotion, and run the promotion cron, it'll fix all of the users. No queries.

Never thought of that. :o

AussieDave 11-09-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2104627)
If you have yet to setup your forum you can set it up like that without this mod... just make registered users a limited permissions group and promote everyone to a new group after 10 posts.

I'm a noob to vB and although I understand there's a learning curve, I have a total of 30 sites to look after (over and above the site I'm adding vB to) . Spending time searching through oddles of docs, posts and what not to find a "howto" - I simply don't have enough hours in the day.

Don't laugh but I wasted 5 hours at the .com forum the other day trying to figure out how to add _blank to the vB link. So when I find a plug in that will do what I want and can add in 5 min or less it's likely I'll go for that option every time.



Cheers

Dave

BirdOPrey5 11-09-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieDave (Post 2119849)
I'm a noob to vB and although I understand there's a learning curve, I have a total of 30 sites to look after (over and above the site I'm adding vB to) . Spending time searching through oddles of docs, posts and what not to find a "howto" - I simply don't have enough hours in the day.

Don't laugh but I wasted 5 hours at the .com forum the other day trying to figure out how to add _blank to the vB link. So when I find a plug in that will do what I want and can add in 5 min or less it's likely I'll go for that option every time.



Cheers

Dave

I understand your reasoning but if it took you 5 hours to add target="_blank" to the phrase that controls the link back to vbulletin.com maybe you should accept that you may not know the best way to proceed at the moment. Just because the mod path may be easier right now it's many times better in the long term to use built in features rather than mods whenever possible. If you ever run into trouble where you need official support all mods will need to be disabled before anyone at vbulletin will even look at your setup... Plus mods can introduce other bugs and there's no guarantee a future vb upgrade won't break a mod- then what would you do? As an admin you need to look long term, big picture stuff.

SVTCobraLTD 12-30-2010 11:34 AM

Any chance of this working in 3.8?

BirdOPrey5 12-30-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTCobraLTD (Post 2141258)
Any chance of this working in 3.8?

I looked at the code and am fairly sure it will work on 3.8 and maybe even earlier versions... it's just 1 plugin on registration to do it's magic.

I would install it and test to make sure, worst case you can uninstall, there are no database changes.

You will have to open the xml file and change "4.0.0" to "3.0.0" where it says "minversion."

EDIT- I have confirmed it does work in 3.8.

BirdOPrey5 01-01-2011 04:38 PM

FYI if you add an additional IF statement to the plugin you can use this to move only people with a certain email address type to a different group... such as:

Code:

if (preg_match("/mil$/" , $vbulletin->userinfo['email']))
Will only move new users from military addresses or...

Code:

if (preg_match("/edu$/" , $vbulletin->userinfo['email']))
Will work for users with .edu addresses.

Panzer Max 06-21-2011 06:04 AM

Installed on 3.8

Works, but I think it skips the User awaiting Email confirmation usergroup and moves them directly into the specified usergroup.

x YNWA x 06-24-2011 11:14 AM

Hi
I am looking for something like this, where you can change the default user group.

But I want to have something that you can have the ability for users to CHOOSE a usergroup themselves on registration. I plan to have a usergroup per team and on registration someone selects that team and that team is a usergroup which only has access to that team's forums. Is that possible?

BirdOPrey5 06-24-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x YNWA x (Post 2212127)
Hi
I am looking for something like this, where you can change the default user group.

But I want to have something that you can have the ability for users to CHOOSE a usergroup themselves on registration. I plan to have a usergroup per team and on registration someone selects that team and that team is a usergroup which only has access to that team's forums. Is that possible?

It might be possible but it would be a different mod than this. I would suggest making an official request in one of the requests forum (paid or unpaid) if you haven't already.

Max Taxable 09-28-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2141404)
I looked at the code and am fairly sure it will work on 3.8 and maybe even earlier versions... it's just 1 plugin on registration to do it's magic.

I would install it and test to make sure, worst case you can uninstall, there are no database changes.

You will have to open the xml file and change "4.0.0" to "3.0.0" where it says "minversion."

EDIT- I have confirmed it does work in 3.8.

Confirmed here too. Installed per these instructions and works like a champ.

And I don't use the promotions system, I do usergroup changes manually only so this is right up my wheelhouse.

Max Taxable 09-28-2011 07:22 PM

Oops - Problem with this upon testing!

New registrations, although they are told they must complete registration by clicking on a link in a email for verification, actually do not if you have this set to put them in any usergroup other than Users Awaiting Email Confirmation. It puts them in the group you select instead!

If you have it set to Users Awaiting AND another usergroup other than registered users, it still defaults them to the registered users group after successful email confirmation.

In short, it looks like this mod is not compatible with the email verification for registration option, at least in vB 3.8.6.

Anyone want to take a looksee and verify my conclusion?

Zachery 10-01-2011 06:37 AM

Use the default vbulletin builtin promotion system, instead of working agasint the system with an addon.

Max Taxable 10-01-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2251852)
Use the default vbulletin builtin promotion system, instead of working agasint the system with an addon.

Which in my case leaves me back to overriding the promotion system by manually promoting posters who I know for sure are not spammers and who I don't want to have restricted.

Zachery 10-01-2011 03:54 PM

How is that a problem?

Merjawy 12-23-2011 07:52 PM

There are those who like to have Males and Females usergroups !!! an option based on gender would be great, otherwise giving the user the option to choose would help out lots.

Zachery 12-24-2011 04:29 AM

Sounds like you need a different mod.

temsamane 04-03-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merjawy (Post 2280523)
There are those who like to have Males and Females usergroups !!! an option based on gender would be great, otherwise giving the user the option to choose would help out lots.

i also need this option

Abu2 04-21-2012 02:20 PM

Is it possible to add people to additional usergroup, not only primary? This mod doesn't work for additional =(

borbole 04-21-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abu2 (Post 2322255)
Is it possible to add people to additional usergroup, not only primary? This mod doesn't work for additional =(

Quote:

Originally Posted by temsamane (Post 2316490)
i also need this option

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merjawy (Post 2280523)
There are those who like to have Males and Females usergroups !!! an option based on gender would be great, otherwise giving the user the option to choose would help out lots.

Both options can be included. I can change the mod to add the option/s that you want for a fee.

CoffeeLovesYou 04-21-2012 09:13 PM

Is this COPPA complaint? For example, if they sign up with 1995 DoB, they get moved to the usergroup I chose. But if they sign up with a DoB of 2001, do they get moved to COPPA?

Zachery 04-22-2012 10:28 PM

COPPA doesn't act on a single usergroup, its a flag on their profile. The usergroup is not renamed in upgrades.

CoffeeLovesYou 04-27-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 2322579)
COPPA doesn't act on a single usergroup, its a flag on their profile. The usergroup is not renamed in upgrades.

What? I'm talking about COPPA usergroup, not Yes or No for COPPA User option.

Zachery 04-27-2012 02:09 AM

The COPPA usergroup, is for users awaiting moderation, and in older versions of the software, also a holding for COPPA users. In vB4 we no longer use that usergroup to hold COPPA users, but it is still called the COPPA usergroup.

We don't rename peoples usergroups during upgrades, so if you've been using vB for a while, its still has the same name.


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