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Bouncer222 02-11-2010 10:43 PM

vB Experience 3.8 Upgrade to 4.0! PLEASE!
 
Could someone for the love of god please upgrade vbexperience in the 3.8 threads to 4.0?

Our site desperately needs it!

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=vbexperience

Thanks!!

Marco van Herwaarden 02-12-2010 10:44 AM

Please ask this in the thread of the modification in question.

PS Nobody but the original author can update it to vB4 and release it.

Bouncer222 02-12-2010 07:44 PM

I did ask in the oriiginal thread, but the author hasnt responded for 5 months already and he hasnt been online for the past 4 months.

It appears to be dead, and if a mod IS dead, it means no one can continue supporting it? It has to be left dead?

Just wondering.

Lynne 02-12-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncer222 (Post 1980996)
It appears to be dead, and if a mod IS dead, it means no one can continue supporting it? It has to be left dead?

Yes, that is correct. Only the developer may upgrade and release the modification as he has the copyright on his code. You may upgrade your own copy *for your own use*, but you may not share it at all.

Bouncer222 02-13-2010 02:05 AM

Well I don't know how to code, is it allowed that someone can upgrade it for me and we both won't share it?

I really need this mod.

Lynne 02-13-2010 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncer222 (Post 1981136)
Well I don't know how to code, is it allowed that someone can upgrade it for me and we both won't share it?

I really need this mod.

If you post a Paid Request and someone upgrades it for your use only, then that is fine. Please see this notice - Requesting modification upgrades to vBulletin 4.0

gamerfu 02-13-2010 05:34 AM

Yeah, vBExperience has hit alot of us as not being supported. Author logged in resently, but no onger supports vBExperience. But, the author does support other mods they have written. :confused:

I think everyone should donate to vBExperience author if they truly care about the modification. I have sent in money last year to the author, but I think they need a reason to want to come back and support the product. Maybe to many freeloaders complain? Maybe that is why he stopped supporting their code? :(

I run 3.8.4 P2, but maybe those who want a 4.0.x release should donate to the authtor enough money to buy the $250USD upgrade.

Note: The vBExperience author does not have 4.0.x on their site. :cool:

Marco van Herwaarden 02-13-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerfu (Post 1981199)
I think everyone should donate to vBExperience author if they truly care about the modification.

If donations would be what is needed to get a vB4 version, then it is not really a free modification anymore and should have no place on vBulletin.org.

Alfa1 02-13-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1981354)
If donations would be what is needed to get a vB4 version, then it is not really a free modification anymore and should have no place on vBulletin.org.

Yes, but I think issue that needs to be overcome is not that the coder has commercial interests, but that the coder does not have vb4. Meanwhile over 2.600 boards have installed vbexperience and use it as an integral aspect of their site. vbexperience will stop a lot of boards from upgrading to vb4.
It seems to me that the value of vbexperience to IB is far more greater than the value of one license.

I have read more comments by addon coders that will not upgrade their modifications to vb4, because they can't pay for it. I suggest to vb.org and IB that the solution to this is simple (at least for those coders that have a lot of installs):

Give something back to the coding community.

Bouncer222 02-13-2010 05:14 PM

So you're telling me that I HAVE TO pay someone to code it for me? I can't just ask someone to code it for me for free and even if they would approve of doing it for free?

Kinda sounds like a rip-off to me, no offense.

gamerfu 02-13-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1981354)
If donations would be what is needed to get a vB4 version, then it is not really a free modification anymore and should have no place on vBulletin.org.

I have seen plenty of modifications with "Lite" freeware versions and "PRO" licensed versions as a paid addon. It was a suggestion, since I noticed the author does not have 4.0.x running on their home site. :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncer222 (Post 1981494)
So you're telling me that I HAVE TO pay someone to code it for me? I can't just ask someone to code it for me for free and even if they would approve of doing it for free?

Kinda sounds like a rip-off to me, no offense.

HA-HAA! :D

Lynne said that as a suggestion on how to get the code fixed or ported to vB 4.0.x. ;)

What would it hurt to donate to the author, if your board depends on it? :)

That is my suggestion. Although, it might not be the athor's problem. :cool:

Bouncer222 02-13-2010 08:05 PM

Well maybe with this economy I do not have any money to donate? :(

BTW, how hard would it be to upgrade it? would it need a total rewrite or just some small modifcations or something?

Lynne 02-13-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncer222 (Post 1981494)
So you're telling me that I HAVE TO pay someone to code it for me? I can't just ask someone to code it for me for free and even if they would approve of doing it for free?

Kinda sounds like a rip-off to me, no offense.

What I am saying is if someone else takes the time to upgrade the code, they may not share it without the author's permission. You, however, are more that welcome to take the time to upgrade it yourself and use it on your site. You are allowed to pay someone to upgrade it *for you* also (not for them to share with others).

Has anyone asked the developer if he would allow them to upgrade it to vB4 and release it?

Bouncer222 02-13-2010 11:55 PM

Yes many people did, he is not responding for some months now...

So if he never responds no one is allowed to upgrade it?

FreeResellers 02-14-2010 03:10 PM

I am willing to pay for an upgrade like that.
My website allmost died because I have upgraded and there isn't a mod like it.
I am waiting for vBCredits II now, but that isn't as good as vBexperience.
I simply don't have a choice.

Lynne 02-14-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncer222 (Post 1981762)
So if he never responds no one is allowed to upgrade it?

Upgrade it and share it without his permission? No.

Upgrade it and use it on their own site without sharing it? Yes.

Alfa1 02-14-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynne (Post 1982417)
Upgrade it and share it without his permission? No.

Upgrade it and use it on their own site without sharing it? Yes.

This got me wondering. If 20 webmasters all hire the same coder to privately patch their site, would this be a problem?

Marco van Herwaarden 02-15-2010 06:54 AM

If you would take the copyright laws to the letter, then yes that would also be an issue.

FreeResellers 02-15-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1982457)
This got me wondering. If 20 webmasters all hire the same coder to privately patch their site, would this be a problem?

Hello guys.

I have the green light from the developer to upgrade this mod!
I am just not that good, so I am going to hire someone.

After that vBExperience will be released for free on vbulletin.org

So, please. Do not hire anyone!

Edit: I requested an upgrade here

Pro-eSports.com 02-15-2010 03:17 PM

Really good move from you. Thanks. :)
Let's hope you find someone who is able to upgrade it.


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