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AdrianH 07-08-2009 09:28 AM

Google joins battle with Microsoft with Chrome operating system
 
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle6665703.ece


Quote:

Google is to launch a new operating system, in its most direct challenge yet to the dominance of Microsoft.

Google Chrome OS will be a development of its Chrome web browser. The search giant initially aims to install the new system on small, low-cost computers known as netbooks, which are currently outselling more powerful personal computers. Google said that it believed the software would eventually be used on PCs as well.

The move is likely to intensify the rivalry between Google and Microsoft, whose Windows operating system is used on the majority of the world’s personal computers. Operating systems help to run and control the basic functions of a computer.

Google said that the project was a “natural extension” of its Chrome browser and was necessary because older operating systems were designed at a time when the internet did not exist.......... (more)
Whoopie , more compatibilty issues to worry about.

Caddyman 07-08-2009 10:15 AM

very cool, can't wait to see what develops from it.

Xencored 07-08-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Caddyman (Post 1845062)
very cool, can't wait to see what develops from it.

Yea Same here this could be good :D

NakedAlien 07-16-2009 06:35 AM

All I can say is good luck google, good luck :P

Speculation 07-20-2009 01:58 AM

It will be interesting to see what Google comes out with. Not to mention the potential attempt at a hostile take over as a result of this.

Either way, compatibility issues or no, whatever google can come up with is bound to be better than the disaster that was vista.

Reycer 07-20-2009 02:11 AM

if their operating system crashes as much as their Broswer does, it's won't be worth it's weight in paper.

KTBleeding 07-20-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 1851986)
if their operating system crashes as much as their Broswer does, it's won't be worth it's weight in paper.

Yes, because Windows and IE both have such a low crash rate that it's worth paying hundreds of dollars for their software over something that's, you know, free?

Windows is the most unstable widely used OS.. I'm sure that Chrome won't be 100% stable, but I'd be willing to put money on it that it would crash a lot less often than Windows does.

Zachery 07-20-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1852137)
Yes, because Windows and IE both have such a low crash rate that it's worth paying hundreds of dollars for their software over something that's, you know, free?

Windows is the most unstable widely used OS.. I'm sure that Chrome won't be 100% stable, but I'd be willing to put money on it that it would crash a lot less often than Windows does.

Where did you get this "most unstable widly used OS". Because I've had more lockups in OSX over the past 5 years than I have in windows.

RedeemedWarrior 07-20-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1852142)
Where did you get this "most unstable widly used OS". Because I've had more lockups in OSX over the past 5 years than I have in windows.

i agree i run 6 windows pc's, most used every day, some for 12 hours aday and i get about 1 lockup a year, i've never got this "windows crashes" stuff

IE 7 however did crash alot, hence why i use FF

Wayne Luke 07-20-2009 12:00 PM

Google doesn't have an chance of gaining market share against Microsoft with their stated plans.

1) Its going to be a netbook operating system. Netbooks today primarily run on Linux. Microsoft is just entering the market with a customized version of XP.

2) All applications on their Chrome OS, are going to be web-based. This makes the device worthless if you don't have an internet connection. Unlike Linux or XP based machines.

3) They'll be eating into their own sales with the lackluster sales of Android, which is designed to be a phone and netbook OS. It only has a small portion of the market right now as it is with less than a million units. Compared to 20 million iPhones, 20 million Windows Mobile units and 10 million Blackberry devices sold last year. Not to mention competition from Palm, LG and Samsung.

4) They'll need to ink deals with netbook suppliers. Dell and HP already use Linux and XP, while the others use Linux. They will need to have something extraordinary out of the gate to have the netbooks work with the software on the market or they won't get hardware deals.

5) At least initially, you won't be able to download this OS freely. It will come as part of a hardware package. Nothing stifles sales of an OS more than hardware bundling. Ask Apple about how hardware bundling with their OS has allowed them to achieve market domination.

6) Google can't even get plugins working in the Chrome Browser. I don't know how they think they will pull off a viable online application store.

7) We're probably 5 years away before the Chrome OS is viable on a PC. Long time to market. During that time, Windows 7, Linux and OSX will continue to improve. While Google's Chrome OS will be languishing on a platform that accounts for less than 1% of total PC sales worldwide.

I know Google walks on water, eats ambrosia and drinks mead with the gods but I feel they are spreading themselves too thin and there are already hints of a federal anti-trust investigation being started on them. Only time will tell but I don't think their current plan will hurt Microsoft in the least.

Reycer 07-20-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1852137)
Yes, because Windows and IE both have such a low crash rate that it's worth paying hundreds of dollars for their software over something that's, you know, free?

Windows is the most unstable widely used OS.. I'm sure that Chrome won't be 100% stable, but I'd be willing to put money on it that it would crash a lot less often than Windows does.

Obviously you don't use Google Chrome very much. lol IE Dosen't hold a candle to the many times the Google Chrome crashes (and that's sad because IE crashes a lot and is FULL of security flaws)

Zachery 07-20-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 1852244)
Obviously you don't use Google Chrome very much. lol IE Dosen't hold a candle to the many times the Google Chrome crashes (and that's sad because IE crashes a lot and is FULL of security flaws)

What IE8 security flaws do you speak of?

Reycer 07-20-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1852251)
What IE8 security flaws do you speak of?

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/03...security-flaw/

Zachery 07-20-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 1852268)

I see two whole security advisories for IE8, terrible rubbish software clearly. Because I hear every other webbrowser on the earth is completely without issue.

Reycer 07-20-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1852280)
I see two whole security advisories for IE8, terrible rubbish software clearly. Because I hear every other webbrowser on the earth is completely without issue.

why so defnsive about IE? You own stock in it or somethin? lol:cool:

Zachery 07-20-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 1852411)
why so defnsive about IE? You own stock in it or somethin? lol:cool:

Because i don't like rampant untrue rumors about software period.

Reycer 07-20-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery (Post 1852479)
Because i don't like rampant untrue rumors about software period.

it's not rampant and untrue I showed you where it was...:D

Zachery 07-21-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mdelcour (Post 1852518)
it's not rampant and untrue I showed you where it was...:D

IE8 has two listed vuns, that is not "FULL of security flaws".

Wayne Luke 07-21-2009 01:00 PM

Shame that this thread has devolved into an argument about web browsers when it isn't even about browsers to begin with. It should be brought back on topic or closed. The topic is not which browser is more secure and crashes the least.

The original question is can Google deliver a viable OS based on their minimalistic browser and whether that OS will pose a viable threat to Windows?

Reycer 07-21-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1852877)
Shame that this thread has devolved into an argument about web browsers when it isn't even about browsers to begin with. It should be brought back on topic or closed. The topic is not which browser is more secure and crashes the least.

The original question is can Google deliver a viable OS based on their minimalistic browser and whether that OS will pose a viable threat to Windows?

your right and I aplogize for my part. Actually I do hope that Google is successful, it would be nice to see some competition for Microsoft.

Wayne Luke 07-21-2009 01:51 PM

Microsoft has a lot of competition... Solaris, OSX, a number of Unix variants, ten trillion Linux variants. Whether any of them are successful competition is in the eye of the beholder. One could say that OSX is successful albeit crippled by the hardware bundling requirement. Linux might be considered successful if there were maybe 10 variants instead of ten trillion. Its stifled by the overwhelming choice presented to the consumer.

However Google seems to think we need another Linux variant bouncing around. Maybe they can popularize it where IBM, Netware, Oracle and Sun have not been able to in the past. Google's past software offerings don't seem to support that idea but we'll see. Of course, they'll need an equivalent to DirectX and the ability to put billions of dollars into the gaming industry to make a truly successful OS. Currently no one (that matters) makes Linux based games because there is no profit for their cost. Keep in mind that DirectX is much more than graphics. Yeah OpenGL exists to compete on the graphics level but there is no unifying architecture for all that DirectX provides including sound, input control, floating point processing, and more unified over thousands of devices.

Like it or not, games sell computers to consumers.


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