The most violent country in Europe
 

Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it is revealed today.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.

It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.

The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.

It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking.

The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Shocking :eek:

Source?

I thought it was Ireland :eek:

here you go Wayne http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...frica-U-S.html

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I couldn't believe it but when you've got the crap government we have in the UK its hardly suprising

Let's bring back Maggy Tatcher!

Why what is she going to do ? Tories/Labour/Libs are all the same - we need radical changes over here.
Instead of looking to the past lets look to the future and make changes.
Build more prisons / More police on the street / Tougher sentencing Laws

And finally lets get rid of the humans rights act because this is what is dragging the UK down in the gutter as it gives more rights to the Criminal than it does to the Victim.

Ship the prisoners off to the colonies. Oh Wait...

According to here: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=12

The U.K. has 26% of its working age population out of work and an official 7.0 percent unemployment rate. Now, I am not saying the U.S. is doing great at generating jobs either but if there were more jobs than less people would be committing crimes. Not sure just locking everyone up is the solution. Yeah, the seriously violent should go through prison programs but those programs should be aimed at rehabilitation and not simply incarceration. They would need jobs afterwards as well to get off the government role.

If you're going to rethink for the future, just build people warehousing facilities a.k.a prisons is not the answer. All prisons create these days is tougher and more dangerous criminals. This is what I tell my elected officials and others. Hopefully one day they'll listen.

Can you show any evidence for that at all?

The EU should probably pass some sort of resolution banning violent crime, following that up with a resolution giving everyone the right to food and housing.

I'm positive this would change things.

people in work commit violent crime its not just the unemployed so building more warehouse facilities would not do any good.

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Cant you use google theres is loads of examples :



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ights-Act.html

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...meta=&aq=f&oq=

My neighbours the English people have a violent behavior. It is well known, especially during football matches :D


Belgium in 5th position? Waw... ^^

Hmmm, i am not really familiar with the UK newspapers, but isn['t that 1 of the tabloits, not really 1 of the more reliable sources of news?

Also some things feel really wrong about this:
- Was this a ranking for European countries as the title indicates? If so why are Canada & South Africa doing in the list? If not, then i doubt if the list is correct. Find it hard to believe that countries like USA, many south American & African countries, and many other places in the world should not have been listed higher.
- What is considered a violent crime? Looking at the numbers it seems that homicide is counted seperatly?

To me this looks like a tabloit wanting to shock and manipulated the numbers until they had what they wanted: a headline that their own country is the most violent.

Bingo. That's how it all indeed looks. The figures were compiled by the Conservative Party (=the Tories), so a certain amount of bias and agenda might well be suspected. After all, they're gathering ammunition for the upcoming election.

Just for example, just from the newspaper:

The agenda is certainly there and sure enough so are the motives. Those stats are not to be taken seriously, it's a joke. Manipulated comes to mind. What people will do to retain a hold for power to control the country.

I agree, Prisons are not the solution. Murderers should receive a bullet in the head or some kind of death penalty. Rapists should be thrown into a room full of sexual deprived criminals and have a taste of their own medicine. And for the rest, and I'm a true believer of this is we need to start looking at fusion energy for an unlimited energy source for the rest of the prisoners to ship them to the moon. One way.

You just cannot take those stats seriously. I thought maybe it was april 1st and remembered we already had that thread. :rolleyes:

Have you lost your minds? My state in the US alone has close to a 13% unemployment rate and besides think of how much crime goes unreported in every country, I would think the US has more crime problems and basing it on per 100,000 is not feasible, what is the population difference in proportional terms eh? Personally, many of you fellow US'ers out here might think me silly but I would rather move to the UK then stay here in the states, purely IMO.

S-MAN

I live in britain and things are as bad as they look.
Waste of time hiding your heads in the sand and saying that the stats are made up.Infact i would say the stats are showing a lower percentage than we actually are.
Crime in this country is running amok and why ? Because when they are caught all they basically get is a slap on the wrist.Mass immigration is bringing crime with it and the kids today just run amok on the streets in little street posse`s

1) No-one claimed the stats were "made up".

What has been shown is that the stats as given are extremely misleading, and seem also to have been massaged in their presentation by the compilers, the Tories, to give a much worse picture than it really is.

2) You're not the only one who knows Britain.

3) Crime in Britain is nowhere near as bad overall as in South Africa (a specific comparison that that report misleadingly made). Nor is it as bad as in much of the Balkans, or Russia, or a whole lot of other places.

4) Mass immigration, so-called, is not responsible for the main body of crime in Britain. That's a cheap excuse and attack without merit.

U must have your head buried in the sand then - even our own goverment admits immigration is a major problem in the UK.

Anyway another link for the Human rights act :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...cy-rights.html

It confuses me at times as most killers use the human rights act yet shoud`nt they be automatically excluded from it ??