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UKBusinessLive 05-31-2009 08:51 AM

Backing Up your VB Site ~ Nah Never!!
 
Hi Guys,

This thread is just to raise awareness on the importance of regulary backing up your forums, and perhaps doing a full back up at server level.

All you need to do is to read the amount of horror stories on here of people that have lost their site due to not having backups or their host not doing auto backups of their site.

Its one of those things, Like planning your funeral, that we never do until its too late!!, So guys today its Sunday, your not that busy, why don't we all back up our sites and add a post here to say we've done it!! ;)

Take part in the poll and be honest, your not kidding anyone apart from yourselves!! You can tick Multi, so be honest and if you don't know how to do backups then todays the day that your gonna find out. Its not as hard as it looks and it could save your forum!

If you have a problem knowing what or where to back up post here and we'll help each other out.

Heres a quick Tutorial on Backing up your all your webspace using Cpanel http://www.cpanel.net/media/tutorials/backup.htm

Today I've declared this Sunday as National VBulletin Back up day :D

motowebmaster 05-31-2009 02:45 PM

Where are the positive answers? Some of us backup several times per day.

Theater 05-31-2009 03:17 PM

I laughed when I read this thread title. *shakes head @ UKBL* Anyway, yes, backup your site yourself even if you're using a managed hosting solution. Demand access if you have to. It will save you a headache in the future should your site ever crash and burn. I am learning the hard way today with restoring my own community with a dated 2 month old backup. At least I have that much.

HMBeaty 05-31-2009 03:34 PM

I usually make a backup at the LEAST, every few days. Better to always be safe than sorry

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Also, just a suggestion for everyone on here, I use, probably always will use, Paul M's vB Database Backup (Lite) to constantly make a backup of my database. Usually have it run every few days

Biker_GA 05-31-2009 03:45 PM

Every other day as a minimum.. Last backup was last night.

UKBusinessLive 05-31-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theater (Post 1820688)
I laughed when I read this thread title. *shakes head @ UKBL* Anyway, yes, backup your site yourself even if you're using a managed hosting solution. Demand access if you have to. It will save you a headache in the future should your site ever crash and burn. I am learning the hard way today with restoring my own community with a dated 2 month old backup. At least I have that much.

Lol Sorry Buddy its nothing personal, but all you need to do is read of the horror stories here nearly every week, guys with 20,000+ members losing their whole site, just because they didn't do a simple backup, alot of folk also think that their hosts do auto back ups, Think again, the responsibilty is yours as a forum owner to back up often, time period depends on how big you are but in general the larger site you are the more backups you should be doing.

I guess theres loads of members that have never done a backup, perhaps they don't know, well post here Guys and we'll help you get your Backup created, Don't be shy, we're doing this for the common good.



:D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlinemotorsports (Post 1820692)
I usually make a backup at the LEAST, every few days. Better to always be safe than sorry

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Also, just a suggestion for everyone on here, I use, probably always will use, Paul M's vB Database Backup (Lite) to constantly make a backup of my database. Usually have it run every few days

Excellent Choice and easy to use too!

don't forget to save your backups too, you can save them on a memory stick or CD, but lately i've been sending them to my email account at google, Excellent to storage ;)

Angel-Wings 05-31-2009 04:22 PM

No need for manual backups - everything is mirrored in realtime at a 2nd machine and there compressed every 12 hours, kept for 7 days then the oldest files are renamed to the week, after 4 weekly backups the oldest renamed to the month so I've monthly, weekly and daily backups + the realtime ones.

Lynne 05-31-2009 05:23 PM

I backup our database everynight and rsync all our files (including all attachments/avatars/torrents/etc) to a remote server every night. I also make a zipped backup of all those files once a week (separately! The attachments are over 10 GB!) and rsync them to that remote server. I also have copies of all the vb files on my mac.

iogames 06-01-2009 09:30 PM

I backup every time I made major changes

dabollicks 06-02-2009 06:25 PM

I back mine up everyday, have been one of those horror stories, so dont intend on losing everything again

Brandon Sheley 06-02-2009 06:39 PM

I vote for *I make a backup every day*

Davros 06-02-2009 06:46 PM

Every 12 hours me and a Co. Admin take it in turns.

digicom 06-02-2009 06:50 PM

Every Day I Create A Backup

maddento 06-02-2009 07:24 PM

Yea im hurting from doing a back up 7 days ago. I couldn;t imagine not ever doing one. Talking about being screwed!!!!!!!!!

backup FTW

SECTalk.com 06-02-2009 07:49 PM

I've got a cron job which makes daily back ups but only of the database. I would like some info on backing up the files.

TheLastSuperman 06-02-2009 08:30 PM

Once a week and yes before I did it once a week it did bite me in the arse :(

PLEASE do backups, please for your sanity, read this thread, ignore it and justify not doing it all day long thinking your safe OR even not doing it because you won't take the time to learn but at some point it will return to haunt you like a ghost in the night :p.

ALWAYS! And I do it before mod installs, if you become familiar with it it can take less than 1-5 mins depending on board size/method of backup (this can be higher but in general).

Please!!!!!!

josefebus 06-02-2009 10:41 PM

Thanks for the link to the Auto Backup mod...Now I backup every day!

steven s 06-02-2009 11:02 PM

I wonder how many people backup to their own server?

Lynne 06-02-2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1996 328ti (Post 1822400)
I wonder how many people backup to their own server?

Baby steps... :)

Usually backing up to your own server is sufficient. However, it really is best to keep a copy of that backup on a remote server.

UKBusinessLive 06-03-2009 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 1822294)
Once a week and yes before I did it once a week it did bite me in the arse :(

PLEASE do backups, please for your sanity, read this thread, ignore it and justify not doing it all day long thinking your safe OR even not doing it because you won't take the time to learn but at some point it will return to haunt you like a ghost in the night :p.

ALWAYS! And I do it before mod installs, if you become familiar with it it can take less than 1-5 mins depending on board size/method of backup (this can be higher but in general).

Please!!!!!!

Words of Wisdom Mike,

Its really so easy to do full server backups, see video in first post, even if you have someone else do back ups, what would happen if they told you, their system was down when yours crashes, or gets damaged? For the sake of 5 mins or less of your time, can you keep taking that risk??

Like Lynne Says "Baby Steps"

I download mine and save it to my memory stick, but i also send myself an email (Google) with it as an attachment, so not only do i have one for easy restoring on my stick but one saved on googles own servers too!!

calumn 06-03-2009 08:47 PM

My whole server including the operating system, all settings, databases and files are backed up through bqbackup every night - its only $5 a month and not much bandwidth (you would expect many Gb since its the whole OS etc.) since it only backs up what has changed.

Shamil. 06-03-2009 08:50 PM

My cron job backs up the cPanel account and dumps it every 3 hours :)

musado1961 06-08-2009 10:03 PM

Database is backed up daily & file structure weekly.

Paul M 06-08-2009 10:48 PM

Ive added a Daily (or more often) option, since thats what I do (and a few others from reading this thread).

forum4 06-10-2009 06:14 AM

My hosting co says they do a daily backup, so I hadn't done one till tonight when I got miffed at them.

I did a full backup from cpanel to my desktop. Cpanel said something about not being able to do a restore with those files, but I guess they can be used to start over.

UKBusinessLive 06-10-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forum4 (Post 1826817)
My hosting co says they do a daily backup, so I hadn't done one till tonight when I got miffed at them.

I did a full backup from cpanel to my desktop. Cpanel said something about not being able to do a restore with those files, but I guess they can be used to start over.



If you want to restore a site from a cpanel backup, with the associated databases email addresses, etc.., you need to have a "Full" backup from cpanel and restore that backup using the restore a ' Full Backup/cpmove File' in WHM.

If you restore a "home" backup from within cpanel you will not get the mysql databases, email addresses, mailing lists, subdomains, and addon domains.

If the account you want to restore is located on another server you can also use the transfer feature. Which basically creates a full backup, transfers the backup to new server and performs a restore.

Hope this helps ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1826023)
Ive added a Daily (or more often) option, since thats what I do (and a few others from reading this thread).

Thanks Paul :D

COBRAws 06-10-2009 10:20 PM

mirrored backup - 0sec

Everything is sync'ed with another server setup for backups only.

Dismounted 06-11-2009 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBRAws (Post 1827295)
mirrored backup - 0sec

Everything is sync'ed with another server setup for backups only.

That can be a bad thing. Any corruption would be synched automatically onto the other server.

chick 06-11-2009 05:11 PM

Every 24 hours automatically starting at midnight (all sites on my server) and dropping it to my 2nd drive.

cheat-master30 06-11-2009 06:25 PM

A few days ago was the last time I made a backup of my forum. It's one of those things that I semi rarely actually get the chance to do, but I usually do so before a major change (major modification, major vBulletin release).

Lautaro 06-11-2009 06:48 PM

I voted for *Daily (or more often)*
I've installed an automatic backup mod and it set up the cron job to do it every day, I don't remember very well who was the coder of this mod..

And right now I'm looking for a FTP backup maker to install it in a dedicated server I have so I have all my data secured.

mac-warez 06-11-2009 09:13 PM

The only time i make "File system Backups" is when i alter the files themselves or update vBulletin.

I take daily MYSQL backups through SSH and download to my computer. You should never store backups on your server it self. Because if a hacker gains entry into your server they automatically have an SQL dump to release to other sites. I also encode my Config.php with IONCUBE so if a hacker gets into my FTP all they can do is delete files and not access my SQL databases.

COBRAws 06-12-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dismounted (Post 1827442)
That can be a bad thing. Any corruption would be synched automatically onto the other server.

That's right, but the backups are incremental and by timestamp as well (so that makes 3 types of backup in total), and all software installed and DB's are being monitored by a 3rd company contracted to make sure everything runs smoothly. Shit can happen at any given time no matter what backup system or method has been deployed.

ShadowStalker 06-14-2009 01:32 AM

I have been doing the backup via cPanel, probably every few days. If all I am doing is a home directory backup and a mysql database backup, will I be able to restore those and have my whole site back up and running?

kursed 06-14-2009 01:58 AM

Daily, weekly and monthly backups of the database, which get rsync'd to a remote server. And weekly backups of the cpanel, which then gets rsync'd to the remote server as well.

stardotstar 06-14-2009 04:31 AM

I run a cron hourly which dumps the databases to a db_latest.sql which overwrites the previous hour and therefore is a reasonably stable disk usage.
Then in the wee hours I do a time stamped daily dump with cron, compress the set of latest hourly's and dailys with bzip then rsync them off to another server.
I also have a weekly web tree/ft tree and home tree compression that rsyncs out over a staggered period of time.

The crons for the processes are also staggered and set to background and not interfere with the boards (especially important for the hourly) I have not perfected this from a performance point of view but my server is dedicated hardware so I have that luxury I guess.

I have felt the panic of not having a backup and finding myself up to the armpits in the guts of my db fixing something that shouldn't have gone wrong but did!
Now I backup as described and always do nontrivial mods on a dev board first.

josh2007 06-15-2009 03:00 PM

lol i backup our site about every 4-5 days better than nothing i guess. Our site dont get that much visits or members to worry much about crashing

Vangy 07-02-2009 02:56 AM

ok someone hit me with a naughty stick....

I have no idea how to back up
I used to pay my webmaster to do it before installs or upgrades but I actually have no clue how to do it myself, Im grateful for this thread but how on earth do i find out what my

back up destination?
my remote server?
remote user?
remote password?
port?
and forum directory

are, I have no idea what these are where or how i find the information like this to even begin to impliment my own backups

do i type in whats in the tutorial link given in the first thread the same all except my email?? Im confused please help

I'd be happy to pay for someone to teach me how to do this safely.

mmoore5553 07-02-2009 03:22 AM

I actually run alot of forums and i found a nice free program and wanted to share it ... and i backup them all daily ..database or free site. it has saved me before

it is called

cpsitesaver

they do not support it anymore but there is nothing really to support. It runs off cpanel and does a backup of db to your pc . i have used it for years ... .

just another freebie that works.

Marco van Herwaarden 07-02-2009 10:20 AM

I always use rsnapshot to backup daily (could also do it hourly is needed) to a seperate drive.


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