Bye Bye MySQL
 

Oracle has bought Sun.

Well it would seem that MySQL as we know it today might cease to exist in the not too distant future.

More info here:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598

I realise that nothing has yet been officially said about the future of MySQL however it is logical to assume that Oracle are unlikely to continue with the MySQL platform considering that they have an extremely good database framework of their own.

Oracle and MySQL are not comparable products, and they serve a totally different market.

PS That link doesn't open for me.

check both definitions of an Oracle and the Sun, and you will see that they go well together... rofl

I hope to be rich by then and buy Oracle and reinstate MySQL ;)

p.s. I just learn how to pronounce it :mad:

Meh.. in the event of MySQL going away, there's always Postgre...

If mysql is open source, how can it be killed ? - surely anyone can just continue developing it ?

Killed ? Maybe because the source is too complex and blown specially since PostgreSQL is already in place and OpenSource ;)
At all, saying Oracle would kill Sun's products, maybe too early - time will show. Solaris and Java are some other Sun products and I doubt Oracle would kill these.

from what i know of the market, this is good news for open-source... like a sponsor for free development... it was already, but now it will be more efficient, and we will continue to see commercial development over MySQL instead of seeing it only serving free projects...

Hence the "as we know it today" How many people use anything other than the official Sun "supported" release? Have you ever heard of Maria or Drizzle? If you have, have you ever considered installing them over the "official" Sun release.

If Oracle drops MySQL there will of course be people who will continue to maintain the platform, however without somebody at the helm (i.e. Sun) it will be directionless and splinter into many different versions each with their own advantages, disadvantages and more importantly incompatibilities. IMHO open source works for single/dual developer small application frameworks, however once you get into the realms of "enterprise" frameworks (Apache, MySQL, OpenSSL, Subversion etc) you need somebody at the helm maintaining course, direction & consistency. All you have to do is look at the myriad Linux distributions and their associated quirks to see what could happen.

Put your commerical Larry Ellison head on and ask yourself this, what is the incentive to continue to improve an open-source product that could compete with its existing flagship?

As I mentioned, this is an "if" - However if I was Oracle I would hold onto MySQL but mothball the project as it effects the bottom line of my primary database product, I most certainly would not consider improving the product in any way as this may result in loosing existing Oracle DB customers to MySQL. Another alternative would be that Oracle uses MySQL as an feature limited entrypoint into their primary Oracle DB system.

As for Oracle not killing Java that goes without saying, they do not have any comparable competitor product so the addition of Java to the Oracle portfolio is advantageous

Oracle != MySQL

They serve different purposes. Oracle is enterprise class database software. They know that the majority of people using MySQL will not pay for Oracle. I highly doubt MySQL is going anywhere. And if they really did drop it, somebody would fork it and continue the project, so it's not going away any time soon.

If someone did start working on the project after it was closed. The users would infringe on intellectual property and face court fees, I assume.

Forking the project would not cause any infringement.

MySQL is GPL.

There are certain parts that are covered by a proprietary EULA according to Wikipedia, but yes, it's GPL otherwise.

ok let me put it too you all in laymen terms since alot of people do not get this.

Sun own www.mysql.com this is the only place right now you can get the stock files.
linux, windows install files for MYSQL when oracle kill it or re-direct it too their website.
there will be no STOCK files to get, so that is how you kill mysql open source or not.

if you cannot obtain the files anywhere once mysql.com dies or gets re-directed
then it being gpl or open source is all well and good but if you cannot get the source files
then what is the point of open source or gpl then?

dont worry it's hosted on sourceforge.net must be since it's gpl open source?
wrong last working mysql community version the page says 2006 they opened it
and too this day they have no binary packages to download since 2006.

the end of the story is once mysql.com goes so does the source files open or not.

So you assume NOBODY has the source files on their own computers? That's a bit ridiculous if you rethink what you're saying. I'm sure there are plenty of people that download and keep the source files for new versions on their computer. Stop being paranoid. MySQL isn't going anywhere.

Oracle has owned InnoBase since 2005. You still have InnoDB tables in MySQL.

Oracle has owned BerkeleyDB since 2006. You still have BerkeleyDB tables in MySQL.

Both companies produce GPL and commercial software based on their technologies. Just like MySQL.

Two forks of MySQL are being worked on.. Drizzle which is designed to store data in the Cloud. And MariaDB which is a new table engine being developed by the original creator of MySQL, who left Sun earlier this year after the MySQL 5.1 Controversy.

Finally, it is in Oracle's best interest to win over the millions of MySQL Community users in order to open up their products to smaller customers than the current Entreprises that it caters to. This will be crucial so they can compete against Amazon, Microsoft, IBM and HP in the Data Management Market. Though we may see a change in name eventually. Oracle Community Database wouldn't be so bad.

Now MySQL Enterprise on the otherhand... It no longer serves a need in the combined portfolio in the two companies.

have you ever tried using or navigating around oracles own database ? its like the starship enterprise there is just that many options in options, in sub options, and dont get me started on all kinds of different category's inside category's

mysql is lovely neat and easy to navigate around with phpmyadmin
try doing the same with oracle xg11 free community version

all in all i doubt this buyout will even go through the shareholders are now
in court over this as they are doing their best to stop this whole anarchy from taking place.

I actually find it a wonderful tool to work with. You can toss entire applications into the database and pull them into a front end. Just a marvelous system to work with. Triple redundant failover on the server, 100% uptime, automatic server failover on the client. 10,000 users connected at once. 30,000 transactions an hour.

Of course the one application I worked on Oracle with was a GPS system with realtime patrol unit tracking in three different cities on the West Coast before Google Maps existed nor was there internet readily available over cellular network. The system was great. Provided turn by turn navigation, showed dispatchers time to target on calls and so forth.