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Brandon Sheley 03-05-2009 02:06 PM

signature rules limited to 2 links now?
 
Why have you guys limited the sig links to only 2 external links?
Are you going to hold that rule to staff too?

Why did you change this all of a sudden? :down:

thanks
-Brandon

veenuisthebest 03-05-2009 02:29 PM

Its working good for me or maybe it would show the restriction on the next edit.

Princeton 03-05-2009 02:59 PM

Announcement regarding Signature Rules..
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...18#post1761118

anti-warez 03-05-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princeton (Post 1761123)
Announcement regarding Signature Rules..
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...18#post1761118

How long do the members have before you'll be sending out the "signature violation" infraction?

thx

KevinL 03-05-2009 03:27 PM

So does this include Everyone?

Quote:

# No signatures may have more than 2 external links - otherwise it will be considered as SPAM.

anti-warez 03-05-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinL (Post 1761141)
So does this include Everyone?

If it's fair, I would think it should ;) :up:

nexialys 03-05-2009 04:12 PM

actually if you refer to Princeton signature, there is no external link in his, and are actually links to internal articles, which is good for users information...

KevinL 03-05-2009 04:15 PM

Nah..I knew his were all internal. I was just asking..

BSMedia 03-05-2009 08:45 PM

Thanks for letting us know and giving the time to adjust!

smacklan 03-06-2009 01:29 PM

I understand this is not uncommon at many sites that don't want competition but I do sometimes wonder if the org is really committed to serving all of the vB community. If the org is not here to serve all, what/who is it here for then? (seriously)

Lizard King 03-06-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacklan (Post 1761771)
I understand this is not uncommon at many sites that don't want competition but I do sometimes wonder if the org is really committed to serving all of the vB community. If the org is not here to serve all, what/who is it here for then? (seriously)

It is cleary served to Jelsoft as the addons is the part where vBulletin beats IPB or any other low cost forum solution. But Jelsoft always tries to deny this. It also servers to admins and mods of these site as Marco is paid via Jelsoft and other admins are making names for themself which of course increases their hourly rate ;)

Paul M 03-06-2009 07:50 PM

I fail to see what either of these posts has to do with signature rules.

Lizard King 03-06-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1761998)
I fail to see what either of these posts has to do with signature rules.

It actually is related to signature rules . But if you donot want to see the logic behind John's post , i agree with you , it may look unrelated.

smacklan 03-06-2009 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1761998)
I fail to see what either of these posts has to do with signature rules.

The vB world isn't entirely made up of hobbyists. A rather large part of it consists of business people such as myself. A simple link to my site in my sig being prohibited because I offer a paid service or item seems discriminatory...just my personal perspective. I don't wish to make a product comparison but I will say that IPB seems to be a lot less "uptight" about these kinds of things and I don't notice the world coming to an end there for them because of it. Heck, they have an official resource site that is maintained quite well and I would venture to guess is appreciated by the whole spectrum of their users. Thats the only point I'm trying to make...how all of the users at the org perceive themselves as being treated.

Hasann 03-06-2009 10:59 PM

I thought the .org admins making monthly $2000 USD paid via Jelsoft.
What are you think

Guest190829 03-06-2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasann (Post 1762115)
I thought the .org admins making monthly $2000 USD paid via Jelsoft.
What are you think

No....

And two external links should really be sufficient enough to display any of your endeavors (be it business or hobby related).

Shazz 03-06-2009 11:21 PM

Always had just 2, its funny how the thread turns into money relating issues :)

Hasann 03-06-2009 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT (Post 1762125)
No....

And two external links should really be sufficient enough to display any of your endeavors (be it business or hobby related).

but Marco Yes...

nexialys 03-06-2009 11:40 PM

Hasann, you really want to debate how much Marco is paid for being the representative of the company ?!... really?

you need to find some friends, have a walk, take a beer, maybe some base-jumping, and then come back and find some USEFUL post to make...

smacklan 03-07-2009 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT (Post 1762125)

And two external links should really be sufficient enough to display any of your endeavors (be it business or hobby related).

That's not what the new rule says Danny unless I'm misunderstanding it:

Quote:

4 - No signatures may have promotional language* or offers for paid services or link to a page offering paid services.

nexialys 03-07-2009 10:35 AM

oh, and is it possible for us to report bad siggies now ?! i'd be frantic finding illegal signatures, all day long... ROFL!

King Kovifor 03-07-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1762384)
oh, and is it possible for us to report bad siggies now ?! i'd be frantic finding illegal signatures, all day long... ROFL!

Yes.

nexialys 03-07-2009 12:54 PM

/me is now on a mission...

have nothing else to do in real life anyway, hey

Paul M 03-07-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasann (Post 1762115)
I thought the .org admins making monthly $2000 USD paid via Jelsoft.
What are you think

I think you're taking the mickey. The admins here get $0 per month/year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacklan (Post 1762160)
That's not what the new rule says Danny unless I'm misunderstanding it:

How are you understanding it ?

smacklan 03-08-2009 01:22 AM

I understand it to say no links in your signature to outside paid services sites (businesses) contrary to what Danny said. That is my issue...that you folks are bound and determined to push everyone out of here that sells a service or a product. I can see the next thing being no contributions to the site here if the author has a paid service site in their profile.

KW802 03-08-2009 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1762766)
How are you understanding it ?

Likely the same way anybody else would... that links to "paid services" (eg: a site that only sells commercial styles) is not allowed. One staff member says business links are allowed while another, whomever updated the rules, essentially says that they are not and you want to know what his "understanding" is? :erm:

Paul M 03-09-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smacklan (Post 1762866)
I understand it to say no links in your signature to outside paid services sites (businesses) contrary to what Danny said. That is my issue...that you folks are bound and determined to push everyone out of here that sells a service or a product. I can see the next thing being no contributions to the site here if the author has a paid service site in their profile.

Preventing simple links (to any site) was not the intention, just promotinal text - however, it did seem to read that way. The rules have been amended to hopefully make it clearer.

smacklan 03-09-2009 10:55 AM

Thank you for clearing that up Paul :) I can certainly live with the rule in that form.

nexialys 03-09-2009 11:15 AM

actually, Mambo number 5 can be interpreted vaguely, could it be rewrite?
Quote:

A site name with a link to the main index page or forum page is all that is needed.
that just mean that someone can put some other link, and someone up there will evaluate if it is that is needed ?!... my 2? would be to put the main forum url to announce their forum, period. btw, this would be easy to cut off by placing the homepage address in the postbit, so people would not have to put a link to their forum in their siggy... but that's just me.. lol

Brandon Sheley 03-21-2009 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Kovifor (Post 1762443)
Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1762462)
[high]* nexialys is now on a mission...[/high]

have nothing else to do in real life anyway, hey

[high]* Brandon Sheley is on a mission too :up:[/high]
I actually haven't seen many with more than 2 links since I got back. :o
but I do wonder how some are able to add an anchor link within text and it's fine, (Like Paul M for example) yet others are restricted to only linking to the forum itself, with no anchor text.
I just want to make sure it's okay to add text around my link and have an anchor text (as long as it's not promotional) before I go and add it again.

Paul M 03-21-2009 12:18 PM

Text is fine as long as its relevant, and not deemed promotional (So yes, I have Cable Forum instead of www.cableforum.co.uk)

Brandon Sheley 03-22-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1773332)
Text is fine as long as its relevant, and not deemed promotional (So yes, I have Cable Forum instead of www.cableforum.co.uk)

alright, good deal
Just wanted to check before I changed mine up :up:

kevcj 03-23-2009 09:54 PM

I would like to voice my opinion on this matter.

I have 3 active vbulletin licenses, but can only display 2 signature links.

Amend the rules so that people can only display links to sites that they have an active license for.

Moderators on .org and .com are quick to spot members that do not have a VB license. So I am going to guess that there is something in postbit, or in the members profiles that only mods can see. Something that displays the members active licenses.

Even though a link in your signature is not included with the price of VB, the people that spend the money should get the perks.

And - this would prompt people to renew their licenses faster. Mainly because they do not want to lose their backlinks.

Simply Put:

No active license = no signature links.

Active license = signature links, up to 4 or 5 forums.

Someone that owns a dozen VB forums, it would be intrusive to display a dozen links.

I agree with limits, but disagree with only 2.

King Kovifor 03-23-2009 11:29 PM

Actually, as vBulletin.org staff, I can only see if you own a license. We cannot see how many, the urls, or any other data. License checking is automatic and I believe just returns yes / no. That's all we have.

nexialys 03-23-2009 11:35 PM

i would agree with no signatures that promote anything... i just have that tagline, and everybody is happy with it.. :)

Zachariah 03-24-2009 12:05 AM

I do not see a problem. I am working on not allowing them @ all on my sites. I think all of that should be in your profile where it belongs. All they do is clutter up the threads.

It's nice that they allow anything :)

Dismounted 03-24-2009 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Kovifor (Post 1775423)
Actually, as vBulletin.org staff, I can only see if you own a license.

We don't even know if you own it... We only know if your email is on someone's allowed support list.

kevcj 03-24-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dismounted (Post 1775587)
We don't even know if you own it... We only know if your email is on someone's allowed support list.

Maybe its time to upgrade what kind of information the moderators can see?

=========================

Someone owns 1 VB license - they can have 2 signature links to that site.

Someone owns 2 VB licenses - they can have a signature link to each site.

Someone owns 3 VB licenses - they can only have signature links to 2 sites.

This is not just about me, there are people out there that have spent a LOT of money on this software. And now we are being told that we can not use VBulletin.org to build backlinks.

I know that my opinion will not change anyones mind on this issue. And that the 2 link limit will probably stay in place. I just think the limit is unfair to people who have bought more then 2 VBulletin licenses.

nexialys 03-24-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcj (Post 1775747)
there are people out there that have spent a LOT of money on this software.

the license is not a permission to advertise in their signature, i don't see the point here...

kevcj 03-24-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1775751)
the license is not a permission to advertise in their signature, i don't see the point here...

Thank you, but my main forum does not need "advertising" - it gets 2.9 - 3.0 million page views a month, 1,500 - 2,000 post everyday, 1,440 members visiting every 24 hours and 4,229 members visiting every 30 days.

This is about backlinks and keywords for Google.

Out of all of the forums I post on, vbulletin.org gives some of the best backlinks.


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