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SEOvB 02-15-2009 10:00 PM
SEOvB - Link Canonicalization for vBulletin Stop Duplicate Content NOW!
 
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Squash vBulletin Duplicate Content Completely with Canonical URL's!
Courtesy of SEO vBulletin Services
tags: seo, vbulletin, vbulletin seo, link canonical, canonical

Google, MSN, and Yahoo have just relased a new tag for stopping duplicate content even further. Combining a good and valid vBulletin Robots.txt file along with the new canonical tag can destroy any duplicate content penalty your vBulletin powered forums may have had going on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Search Engines
Carpe diem on any duplicate content worries: we now support a format that allows you to publicly specify your preferred version of a URL. If your site has identical or vastly similar content that's accessible through multiple URLs, this format provides you with more control over the URL returned in search results. It also helps to make sure that properties such as link popularity are consolidated to your preferred version
Canonical Link URL Faq
Is rel="canonical" a hint or a directive?
It's a hint that we honor strongly. We'll take your preference into account, in conjunction with other signals, when calculating the most relevant page to display in search results.

Can I use a relative path to specify the canonical, such as <link rel="canonical" href="product.php?item=swedish-fish" />?
Yes, relative paths are recognized as expected with the <link> tag. Also, if you include a <base> link in your document, relative paths will resolve according to the base URL.

Is it okay if the canonical is not an exact duplicate of the content?
We allow slight differences, e.g., in the sort order of a table of products. We also recognize that we may crawl the canonical and the duplicate pages at different points in time, so we may occasionally see different versions of your content. All of that is okay with us.

What if the rel="canonical" returns a 404?
We'll continue to index your content and use a heuristic to find a canonical, but we recommend that you specify existent URLs as canonicals.

What if the rel="canonical" hasn't yet been indexed?
Like all public content on the web, we strive to discover and crawl a designated canonical URL quickly. As soon as we index it, we'll immediately reconsider the rel="canonical" hint.

Can rel="canonical" be a redirect?
Yes, you can specify a URL that redirects as a canonical URL. Google will then process the redirect as usual and try to index it.

What if I have contradictory rel="canonical" designations?
Our algorithm is lenient: We can follow canonical chains, but we strongly recommend that you update links to point to a single canonical page to ensure optimal canonicalization results.

Can this link tag be used to suggest a canonical URL on a completely different domain?
No. To migrate to a completely different domain, permanent (301) redirects are more appropriate. Google currently will take canonicalization suggestions into account across subdomains (or within a domain), but not across domains. So site owners can suggest www.example.com vs. example.com vs. help.example.com, but not example.com vs. example-widgets.com.

Sounds great can I see an example in action
Sure, here is a wordpress blog that has implemented canonical URL's already: http://obamanewssource.com Our vBulletin powered site that has made this implementation is only a test site.

How can I check if its working
Go to your showthread page, and hit view source, and search for "canonical" and you should see it automatically added. If its not automatically added for whatever reason, remove the product file thats attached and make this simple template edit to the end of your vBulletin headinclude template (it's a good idea to do this on all headinclude templates)

Code:
<if condition="(THIS_SCRIPT == showthread) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == showpost) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == printthread)">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]<if condition="$pagenumber>1">&page=$pagenumber</if>" />
</if>
<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT == index">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]" />
</if>
Tip: If you allow only access from www, or non-www version of your content, make sure your vBulletin path is set correctly!

Install Instructions
Upload attached product.xml file to your vBulletin forums using the built in product manager

Uninstall Instructions
Sorry to hear the modification isn't working, to uninstall it, simply use the uninstall function of the product manager

SEOvB 02-16-2009 01:36 AM
2/16/2009 - Added multithread page support

mbc100 02-16-2009 02:49 AM
Thanks
Installed

redlabour 02-16-2009 06:07 AM
Does it make sense with vBSEO 3.3?

cykelmyggen 02-16-2009 06:33 AM
Further info from Google Webmaster Central Blog might throw some light on subject:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...canonical.html

nightbloom 02-16-2009 06:35 AM
Installed. Great idea!

projectego 02-16-2009 09:39 AM
[high]* projectego clicks install. Thanks! :D[/high]

RedeemedWarrior 02-16-2009 09:47 AM
installed!

paintballer.ie 02-16-2009 09:50 AM
so what does this do exactly, add's ''<link rel="canonical" href.......'' to all links?

Shadab 02-16-2009 10:59 AM
Quote:
/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]
What about multi-page threads ?

The same thread URL would be put up in the meta canonical tag for each thread page (page 2, 3, ...).

SEOvB 02-16-2009 11:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadab (Post 1745800)
What about multi-page threads ?

The same thread URL would be put up in the meta canonical tag for each thread page (page 2, 3, ...).
Sorry for the slight oversight, I've updated the modification, as well as the manual template edit.

Shadab 02-16-2009 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1745809)
Sorry for the slight oversight, I've updated the modification, as well as the manual template edit.
Glad to hear that.
I appreciate the quick response and fix.

:)

cykelmyggen 02-16-2009 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1745642)
Does it make sense with vBSEO 3.3?
I would like to know too :confused:

SEOvB 02-16-2009 05:16 PM
I'm not sure what all features are in vBSEO 3.3.0, though it surely won't cause any conflict. After installing, I suggest viewing the page source to make sure that the canonical tags are not there twice

djbaxter 02-16-2009 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1745642)
Does it make sense with vBSEO 3.3?
Quote:
Originally Posted by cykelmyggen (Post 1746044)
I would like to know too :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1746080)
I'm not sure what all features are in vBSEO 3.3.0, though it surely won't cause any conflict. After installing, I suggest viewing the page source to make sure that the canonical tags are not there twice
It isn't necessary if you're using vBSEO since vBSEO already takes care of it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paintballer.ie (Post 1745758)
so what does this do exactly, add's ''<link rel="canonical" href.......'' to all links?
Yes.

redlabour 02-17-2009 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 1746183)
It isn't necessary if you're using vBSEO since vBSEO already takes care of it.
??

I can?t find any canonical Tags in my Sourcecode - using vBSEO 3.3 PR7.

djbaxter 02-17-2009 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1746700)
??

I can?t find any canonical Tags in my Sourcecode - using vBSEO 3.3 PR7.
vBSEO already concentrates your links to one rewritten URL via .htacess.

Zoints SEO also does this for forum home (and maybe for certain other URLs depending on how you set it up).

If you're using another method, you don't need the tags - they are simply another (and easy) method for use on various types of web pages.

redlabour 02-20-2009 05:36 PM
As announced today Canonical-Tags are integrated with vBSEO 3.3 RC1! :D

@djbaxter - i know what you mean - but you misunderstand Canonical-Tags - it is not the same it works now with vBSEO 3.3.

djbaxter 02-20-2009 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1750064)
As announced today Canonical-Tags are integrated with vBSEO 3.3 RC1! :D

@djbaxter - i know what you mean - but you misunderstand Canonical-Tags - it is not the same it works now with vBSEO 3.3.
vBSEO claims that their package already filters duplicate URLs so why do they need the tags? :rolleyes:

SEOvB 02-21-2009 12:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1750064)
As announced today Canonical-Tags are integrated with vBSEO 3.3 RC1! :D

@djbaxter - i know what you mean - but you misunderstand Canonical-Tags - it is not the same it works now with vBSEO 3.3.
If vBSEO inserts Canonical tags, and you have vBSEO (apparently version 3.3 or greater) will have this feature built in, so there won't be any need for this extra modification what so ever for those forums. :up:

SEOvB 02-21-2009 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 1750194)
vBSEO claims that their package already filters duplicate URLs so why do they need the tags? :rolleyes:
Probably best left to the vBSEO guys, as I'm not sure why it'd be needed either if they already truly had achieved "link consensus" previously.:erm:

redlabour 02-21-2009 06:25 AM
Simple answer :

Quote:
Enable Canonical URLs NEW!
A canonical URL is the "Preferred" URL for any page. Some pages have more than one accessible URL, creating a duplicate content problem. Google and other search engines now look for a META parameter rel="canonical", and use this as a hint to determine which URL is the correct one to index, i.e. the preferred version.

vBSEO's built in Link Consensus ensures that all pages on your forum are canonical to begin with, allowing for only one URL per resource. vBSEO's native canonical URLs provide advantages including greater crawling efficiency, optimized external linking, maximized link value. This is not provided with the rel="canonical" parameter alone. vBSEO's Application level link consensus is required for these advantages.

However, Google's canonical hints are helpful as a backup for URLs such as custom sorted pages. This level of redundancy will ensure that if search engines ever discover the sorting URLs, they will be instructed of the correct page URL for link consensus the first time they crawl the page. Examples include custom sorted versions of forumdisplay, social group discussions, member and blog lists, etc.

MTGDarkness 02-21-2009 12:22 PM
Will this work on 3.7.x?

djbaxter 02-21-2009 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redlabour (Post 1750456)
Simple answer :
Quote:
Enable Canonical URLs NEW!
A canonical URL is the "Preferred" URL for any page. Some pages have more than one accessible URL, creating a duplicate content problem. Google and other search engines now look for a META parameter rel="canonical", and use this as a hint to determine which URL is the correct one to index, i.e. the preferred version.

vBSEO's built in Link Consensus ensures that all pages on your forum are canonical to begin with, allowing for only one URL per resource. vBSEO's native canonical URLs provide advantages including greater crawling efficiency, optimized external linking, maximized link value. This is not provided with the rel="canonical" parameter alone. vBSEO's Application level link consensus is required for these advantages.

However, Google's canonical hints are helpful as a backup for URLs such as custom sorted pages. This level of redundancy will ensure that if search engines ever discover the sorting URLs, they will be instructed of the correct page URL for link consensus the first time they crawl the page. Examples include custom sorted versions of forumdisplay, social group discussions, member and blog lists, etc.
That's neither simple nor an answer. That's a sales pitch.

And as FRDS points out above and as I said originally, to get back to THIS thread and THIS add-on, if you're using vBSEO you don't need this add-on. Move along people... nothing to see here...

roddy 02-22-2009 10:33 AM
Ignore, either I messed up, or now it's magically working. Either way, clicking install . . .

roddy 02-22-2009 10:44 AM
Ok, there is a problem here.
showthread.php?t=26237&page=9 > works fine

showthread.php?p=179223#post179223 > doesn't work.

Am seeing if I can figure it out, but probably I can't . . .

Edit: It does work if you paste it in below "$headinclude" in SHOWTHREAD. But not in SHOWTHREAD_SHOWPOST

abilitydesigns 03-01-2009 06:04 PM
total vbulletin newbie here.

Pardon my ignorance, but can anybody walk me thro' the process of installing this mod?

i downloaded the file but don't know what to do next? ( there's no read me? )

again sorry for such a basic question

AD

gwerzal 03-01-2009 10:53 PM
good idea.

Will install it later

brandonroy 03-12-2009 07:59 AM
Installed. I did the manual edit and I took out this:

Code:
<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT == index">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]" />
</if>
Because I have my forum index set to /forum.php and it was adding <link rel="canonical" href="http://www.example.com" /> to forum.php which is not what I wanted!

Is that ok?

EDIT:
And also, if a post is on page=2 or page=3, etc - Shouldn't the showpost.php?p= have the canonical URL of showthread.php?t=555&page=2 instead of just showthread.php?t=555 ? Or is that not a big deal?

MTGDarkness 03-13-2009 08:24 PM
It's working fine with vBulletin 3.7.x. Question-should the canonicals specify which page in a thread you're on? I'm using it with the TFSEO URL Rewrite, and I'm (of course) worried about conflicts. Like, regardless of what page I am on in a thread, it sends me to the first page with the canonical. Should that happen?

SEOvB 03-15-2009 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roddy (Post 1751299)
Ok, there is a problem here.
showthread.php?t=26237&page=9 > works fine

showthread.php?p=179223#post179223 > doesn't work.

Am seeing if I can figure it out, but probably I can't . . .

Edit: It does work if you paste it in below "$headinclude" in SHOWTHREAD. But not in SHOWTHREAD_SHOWPOST
What is displaying for the cannonical URL you when you go to

showthread.php?t=26237&page=9


What is displaying as the cannonical URL for

showthread.php?p=179223#post179223

(This one should show, showthread.php?=179223, search engines don't bother with the relative anchor #post179223)

SEOvB 03-15-2009 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandonroy (Post 1766290)
Installed. I did the manual edit and I took out this:

Code:
<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT == index">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]" />
</if>
Because I have my forum index set to /forum.php and it was adding <link rel="canonical" href="http://www.example.com" /> to forum.php which is not what I wanted!

Is that ok?

EDIT:
And also, if a post is on page=2 or page=3, etc - Shouldn't the showpost.php?p= have the canonical URL of showthread.php?t=555&page=2 instead of just showthread.php?t=555 ? Or is that not a big deal?
Yes, the first edit is fine, as the index page usually isn't the root of duplicate content evils.

Even changing it to
Code:
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/forum.php" />
Should work, or simply inserting your entire forum URL in there :D

Yes it should add the &page to it.

I thought I had multipage support enabled on it, but apparently not. I apologize for that as I only have a test forum that doesn't have any multi page threads but I guess i'll have to create one now.

Edit: I just downloaded the version attached and installed it on a test site and its adding the page numbers okay.

SEOvB 03-15-2009 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by abilitydesigns (Post 1757745)
total vbulletin newbie here.

Pardon my ignorance, but can anybody walk me thro' the process of installing this mod?

i downloaded the file but don't know what to do next? ( there's no read me? )

again sorry for such a basic question

AD
The first post has install instructions at the very bottom.

Install Instructions
Upload attached product.xml file to your vBulletin forums using the built in product manager

Thats all there is to the install. If it doesn't work, the first post also contains information on a manual template edit to fix that.

MTGDarkness 03-15-2009 05:19 PM
PHP Code:
<if condition="(THIS_SCRIPT == showthread) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == showpost) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == printthread)">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]<if condition="$pagenumber>1">&page=$pagenumber</if>" />
</if>
<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT == index">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]" />
</if> 
Is wrong.
Specifically:
PHP Code:
"$pagenumber>1">&page=$pagenumber</if>" /> 
Typo, or real code? I'm dubious... :p

I used this fix:
PHP Code:
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]<if condition="$pagenumber">&page=$pagenumber</if> 
That works on my board.

SEOvB 03-16-2009 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTGDarkness (Post 1768910)
PHP Code:
<if condition="(THIS_SCRIPT == showthread) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == showpost) OR (THIS_SCRIPT == printthread)">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]<if condition="$pagenumber>1">&page=$pagenumber</if>" />
</if>
<if condition="THIS_SCRIPT == index">
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]" />
</if> 
Is wrong.
Specifically:
PHP Code:
"$pagenumber>1">&page=$pagenumber</if>" /> 
Typo, or real code? I'm dubious... :p
Nope thats real code straight from standard vBulletin templates
Quote:
I used this fix:
PHP Code:

<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/showthread.php?t=$threadinfo[threadid]<if condition="$pagenumber">&page=$pagenumber</if> 
That works on my board.
Same result, i just took the code vBulletin uses to deliver the multi-page threads (see showthread title tags)

And you may want to toss " /> at the end of your method :up:

MTGDarkness 03-16-2009 05:03 PM
I feel kinda stupid now. :(

SEOvB 03-16-2009 05:09 PM
Don't man! You were just trying to help!

;)

brandonroy 03-18-2009 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1768556)
Yes, the first edit is fine, as the index page usually isn't the root of duplicate content evils.

Even changing it to
Code:
<link rel="canonical" href="$vboptions[bburl]/forum.php" />
Should work, or simply inserting your entire forum URL in there :D

Yes it should add the &page to it.

I thought I had multipage support enabled on it, but apparently not. I apologize for that as I only have a test forum that doesn't have any multi page threads but I guess i'll have to create one now.

Edit: I just downloaded the version attached and installed it on a test site and its adding the page numbers okay.
It's adding page numbers ok for showthread, but not for showpost! If you view a single post on page 2 for example, the canonical URL points to the first page of the thread.

Dave-ahfb 03-30-2009 01:54 PM
Did I miss something or does this not include on forumdisplay?

atmaca 06-04-2009 08:56 AM
This hack does not working with Zoints SEO For examle, my link:
Quote:
http://www.ceptecep.net/4-haziran-t6884.html?t=6884
But it's showing at page source
Quote:
<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.ceptecep.net/showthread.php?t=6884" />
How this work with Zoints SEO?


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