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UncoderMom 02-04-2009 03:18 AM

MySpace boots 90,000 sex offenders
 
MySpace kicks out 90,000 sex offenders, Connecticut AG says

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/03/m...rs/index.html?

What I want to know is how they know, who is who?

Wayne Luke 02-04-2009 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncoderMom (Post 1733773)
What I want to know is how they know, who is who?

Megan's Law...

All convicted sex offenders must register with law enforcement. This includes their name and address. These lists are available to the public so that you know who is living in your neighborhood.

It should be noted that convicted sex offender covers a wide range of offenses. Not all are rapists or pedophiles. If a 14 year old boy kisses a girl without her permission, he can be found guilty of a crime and must register as a sex offender.

puertoblack2003 02-04-2009 04:51 AM

I believe if i remember that the federal authority kindly (demanded) to do an site control audit of all alleged sex offender that had registered by state and local and its like wayne said since it's public.I',m pretty sure someone had to do some O.T to make sure it was completed.:eek:

GSeybold 02-04-2009 06:36 AM

How did they do this with just researching IP addresses?

Magnumutz 02-04-2009 07:04 AM

Can't say i feel sorry for them.
On the internet it's like this: Boys are boys, girls are boys, girls are old horny men, 13 year old girls are FEDS.

Dean C 02-04-2009 08:11 AM

Whilst I'm in no way condoning the actions or crimes committed by this men and women, it raises a moral question whether this was the right thing to do? A few of these people were probably wrongly convicted of their crime, some of them are probably reformed. Why should we continue to persecute them for their crime?

Also, one could argue that keeping these people on MySpace will give them enough social interaction with people to stop them re-offending. Lack of social interaction with other women or men may have been the reason they committed the crimes in the first place.

It's such a complex moral issue. I personally think it shouldn't be MySpace's responsibility to police this kind of thing.

Shelley_c 02-04-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C (Post 1733977)
Whilst I'm in no way condoning the actions or crimes committed by this men and women, it raises a moral question whether this was the right thing to do? A few of these people were probably wrongly convicted of their crime, some of them are probably reformed. Why should we continue to persecute them for their crime?

Also, one could argue that keeping these people on MySpace will give them enough social interaction with people to stop them re-offending. Lack of social interaction with other women or men may have been the reason they committed the crimes in the first place.

It's such a complex moral issue. I personally think it shouldn't be MySpace's responsibility to police this kind of thing.

Probably, Some were wrongly convicted. For those "convicted" reformed you speak of should never be allowed back into society. I would rather know who's on the sex offenders registered list than unwary speak to a sex offender i didn't know who sexually abused kids/woman/men.

Honestly dean, would you go out and drink with a convicted reformed sex offender?

If the answer to that question is no and it probably is. You shouldn't be condoning that we speak to sex offenders via the internet and the good people not knowing about it. Yeah they are reformed but their victims will never have that feeling of a normal existance again.

Convicted sex offenders should be locked up and they key thrown away. Period. They are the scum of the earth and lowest of the lowest to call them animals would be an insult to animals.

There was a sex offender in the news/papers here in the uk about two months ago who (I sure got set free) or he served something stupid like 6 months. Society took the law into their own hands and chopped his manhood off. The justice system works for sex offenders in the way they'll get 2 years (if convicted) out in 12 months to do it all again and the expense of ruining someones life.

Castrate them, that will stop them in their tracks.

UncoderMom 02-04-2009 10:38 AM

I too think the law needs a little reform. It is way to broad. Like an 18 yr old being a sex offender because of a platonic relationship with a 16 yr old. For the rest of his life? Way too extreme but it is happening. That is just a shame to be lumped in the same category with REAL child pedophiles. I remember my thought process when I was 16, far from innocent and I had a 19 yr old boy friend, yet nothing was out of the norm for our relationship, regarding age proportion. Had my parents been upset, he could be a registered sex offender. :eek: It seems crazy to me that that is illegal.

Other then that, I mainly want to know how they pin point who is who in a search like that. You dont need an address to register at MySpace. Just an email. So the really BAD people will find a way back in and the ones who chose to be reformed and live better obey and are inadvertently punished. It just seems moot to me. Nice try though.

lasto 02-04-2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1733992)
There was a sex offender in the news/papers here in the uk about two months ago who (I sure got set free) or he served something stupid like 6 months. Society took the law into their own hands and chopped his manhood off. The justice system works for sex offenders in the way they'll get 2 years (if convicted) out in 12 months to do it all again and the expense of ruining someones life.

I dont like sex offenders,nobody does.
But on the other hand i also dont like the people who commited the crime in killing the person who you are reffering to in the above post.

Quote:

The bloody, mutilated corpse of Andrew Cunningham, 52, jailed in 2000 for unlawful sex with a 15-year-old girl, was found in the caravan where he lived on an industrial estate in Wandsworth, south-west London, on Wednesday.
Full Story : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...h-1063329.html

What makes them better than the person who they have just killed ?
Have they actually made our society,a safer place for us and our children - NO - because in killing this man they have themselfs become Murderers,and if they can kill once then they can kill again.......
You may have one less pedo to contend with,but now you got a gang of murderers on the loose.

Caddyman 02-04-2009 10:45 AM

Good post Shelley, Meghan's law is great IMO, wish they had a similar program for murderers or other violent felons.

and you guys talking about wrongly accused....it happens, it seems a lot...

Growing up in my neighborhood, lots of us friends would hang out all the time. We eventually came to find out after probably 5 years being friends that one of our friends was a "sex offender" we were like freakin 13 y.o. if that. So we asked our friend about it, and he told us. When he was 7 or 8 i think he was at like a after-school daycare program and there were little kids there. The one little kid was 2 or something and as some toddlers do, liked to strip his clothes off. The day care ladies observed this before. The lady watching them decided to walk out of the room to go get something, the toddlers stripped his clothes off, and then she walked back in. Well he was there, with a naked toddler, the lady over-reacted like he did something wrong, and now he is on the sex offenders list for the rest of his life.

He was totally normal, cool guy, to hang out with before and after he told us, it's a shame.

now was i there and know that is what really happened? no
could he have actually did wrong? i guess
we had no reason not to believe him though....
would i let him babysit my kids now.....probably not.

UncoderMom 02-04-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caddyman (Post 1734075)
Good post Shelley, Meghan's law is great IMO, wish they had a similar program for murderers or other violent felons.

Yeah, lots of killers get out after a decade or so, just labeled a felon, which we all know is a broad definition and certainly doesnt dictate who a person might be after their "crime". A murder though? Too many are done in cold blood and yes, I believe like sex offenders, they are hard to reform but again (cold blooded murderers), how do you distinguish the different ones.




I check my local registered sex offenders list regularly too, BTW.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1733992)
Probably, Some were wrongly convicted. For those "convicted" reformed you speak of should never be allowed back into society. I would rather know who's on the sex offenders registered list than unwary speak to a sex offender i didn't know who sexually abused kids/woman/men.

Honestly dean, would you go out and drink with a convicted reformed sex offender?

If the answer to that question is no and it probably is. You shouldn't be condoning that we speak to sex offenders via the internet and the good people not knowing about it. Yeah they are reformed but their victims will never have that feeling of a normal existance again.

Convicted sex offenders should be locked up and they key thrown away. Period. They are the scum of the earth and lowest of the lowest to call them animals would be an insult to animals.

There was a sex offender in the news/papers here in the uk about two months ago who (I sure got set free) or he served something stupid like 6 months. Society took the law into their own hands and chopped his manhood off. The justice system works for sex offenders in the way they'll get 2 years (if convicted) out in 12 months to do it all again and the expense of ruining someones life.

Castrate them, that will stop them in their tracks.

I think they go WAY too easy on these perverts too. Some of these people are not even arrested. They put restraining orders out and the person goes to court. ITs all really messed up. Freaking perverts man. I agree... They should be punished like murders! Child pedophiles and rapists.

iogames 02-04-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnumutz (Post 1733914)
Can't say i feel sorry for them.
On the internet it's like this: Boys are boys, girls are boys, girls are old horny men, 13 year old girls are FEDS.

LMAO :D

Yuhuuu! I still have my page! :D

Wayne Luke 02-04-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncoderMom (Post 1734064)
I too think the law needs a little reform. It is way to broad. Like an 18 yr old being a sex offender because of a platonic relationship with a 16 yr old.

There has to be something more than a platonic relationship here. Most states have a 3 year clause when it comes to relationships with a minor. That is to say, there has to be more than a three year old age difference between the two parties. So a 19 year old can have a relationship with a 16 year old but not a 15 year old. In some states, like Tennessee, the age of consent is lower than 18 as well. Tennessee just increased the age of consent to 16 for girls a few years ago. Up from 14. Laws vary widely.

Here in California, we not only have Megan's Law but we have Jessica's Law. Jessica's Law states that a registered sex offender cannot be within 2000 yards of a school, church, park or other place where children may congregate. May not seem like a large distance but the law pretty much excludes offenders from being able to live in San Francisco as a whole. It also requires them to wear GPS anklets while on parole.

lasto 02-04-2009 12:35 PM

Well where i live girls as young as 12/13 are pregnant or pushing their own kids in prams - we call them gym slip mums.
So must be a lot of pedos from around these parts then.

UncoderMom 02-04-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1734164)
There has to be something more than a platonic relationship here. Most states have a 3 year clause when it comes to relationships with a minor. That is to say, there has to be more than a three year old age difference between the two parties. So a 19 year old can have a relationship with a 16 year old but not a 15 year old. In some states, like Tennessee, the age of consent is lower than 18 as well. Tennessee just increased the age of consent to 16 for girls a few years ago. Up from 14. Laws vary widely.

Here in California, we not only have Megan's Law but we have Jessica's Law. Jessica's Law states that a registered sex offender cannot be within 2000 yards of a school, church, park or other place where children may congregate. May not seem like a large distance but the law pretty much excludes offenders from being able to live in San Francisco as a whole. It also requires them to wear GPS anklets while on parole.

Yeah, I actually think they made it that way here some time ago. Not sure of the particulars. BUT still... LOL I actually was 15 when I met my "high school sweet heart". Still nothing that he should have been jailed over... back then, it was against the law even at 16 and 18.

Dean C 02-04-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1733992)
Probably, Some were wrongly convicted. For those "convicted" reformed you speak of should never be allowed back into society. I would rather know who's on the sex offenders registered list than unwary speak to a sex offender i didn't know who sexually abused kids/woman/men.

Honestly dean, would you go out and drink with a convicted reformed sex offender?

If the answer to that question is no and it probably is. You shouldn't be condoning that we speak to sex offenders via the internet and the good people not knowing about it. Yeah they are reformed but their victims will never have that feeling of a normal existance again.

Convicted sex offenders should be locked up and they key thrown away. Period. They are the scum of the earth and lowest of the lowest to call them animals would be an insult to animals.

There was a sex offender in the news/papers here in the uk about two months ago who (I sure got set free) or he served something stupid like 6 months. Society took the law into their own hands and chopped his manhood off. The justice system works for sex offenders in the way they'll get 2 years (if convicted) out in 12 months to do it all again and the expense of ruining someones life.

Castrate them, that will stop them in their tracks.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I believe in seeing people for who they are at the time. People can change. Granted, most sex offenders probably won't, but I choose to judge people on the present, not the past :)

Magnumutz 02-04-2009 04:41 PM

And MySpace chose not to.
It's their right to protect their users against sex offenders as it is vBulletin's job to protect us from hackers.

KTBleeding 02-04-2009 05:43 PM

90,000 sex offenders being taken from myspace is merely a pin prick on the surface. For every one normal person on myspace, there has got to be about 40 people who are there for hooking up, and a majority of them won't let age stop them.

However, good on them.


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