Are you a Mac or a PC?
 

For christmas I got a iMac, 20" and 3GB of ram etc.

Before this I had a PC with a 20" screen 4GB of Ram and Windows XP.

I thought that going to a mac from the PC would be horrible, but in fact it was not.
Going from the PC to a Mac was easy, quick and nothing has gone wrong yet.
So from now on, I am now a Mac person.

So do you use Mac or Windows?

windows

Windows User.

My mate has an mac laptop, the brand new one, its nice but its pricey for what it is. He keeps going on about it being made from a solid peice or aluminium, GET A LIFE lol.

lol... when someone is fixed on the material the computer is made, we can say he is "materialist"... lol

though, pricey is maybe something you can not apply to a mac anymore, as the best model of Mac is compared to the best model of Dell -- with the exact same specs -- and they are at the same price... though you will never be able to switch from Windows to Mac OSX on a Dell...

Windows
Windows
Windows...

Does it counts for 3 votes? :D

I haven't seen any good for the humanity come from a Mac... [well, just for a few egos]

actually, i would say the opposite, Josh...

if Mac computers would not exists, you would not have Windows and would be stuck with DOS 335.54 ....

also, all professional tools came from a Mac first: Adobe, Lotus, Filemaker ... but i suppose you prefer the games you play all day... Halo III come from Bungie who created Marathon 15 years ago, a game for Mac Only, which was ported to PC 5 years ago only...

all these tools ported to PC were because of a single reason... pity... lol

mac...

So you said Mr Nexi than from ENIAC to the our daily use of computers for airports, schools, hospitals, banks, government and armies... Mac has something to do with it?

p.s. I just see guys bragging about Mac :D... Oh and yes: Einstein & DaVinci didn't use Macs

Linux - Ubuntu. Which GNOME is more like Mac (sorta) although I have more Windows. (On windows partition of laptopm at the moment).

Josh you play the PC party where we put the whole computing universe on one single machine...
we talk about ergonomy and visual impact here, not hardware... Windows is no Hardware... Mac is... you can put Windows in ANY computer in the world... even a Mac... the goal is not to compare which one is more flexible on any PC but to see which one you "prefer"...

btw, ENIAC -- which name you found by searching on google, was not a end-user computer.. you go too far because you have no arguments... when you talk about Mac vs PC, you have to compare Mac-OS to Windows, not the hardware -- because if you compare both engines right now, any Mac is built with 75% of PC parts... because the market is more fluid...

that is all because Motorola which controled 100% of the Mac market at the begining was lazy and was unable to provide better CPUs... something Steve Jobs hated... so he switched -- not because of the Windows stuff, but because of the Intel power to provide better CPU...

can you have such information on why Bill Gates decided to postpone all the releases of Windows since the start ?!... all the bugs, all the needed components that were never delivered on due time because Microsoft is far from being in control of the millions of guys that work in-house...

as for a comparaison, which type of OS have virus to play with?... that's one of the things we hate with Mac... no virii, so we have no life.

based on OS comparaison, i prefer Mac for a detail... we start with a low level of gadgets, and we can activate a lot of things when needed... when you install Vista though, you have everything activated, and you have to lower the usage of your interface to make it faster... strange feeling.

compare the behavior too:

http://microsoft.com ... when you are a new visitor, you are harassed by a popup to install Silverlight to be able to navigate properly. POPUPS... and the corporate design, no fun, no end-user side of things.

http://apple.com ... HEY, we see their latest products... ok, until yesterday evening, we had 2 cool movies in comics to introduce christmas with PC/Mac guys... a lot of smiles.

Microsoft do not act on the end-user, because it's 13% of their marketshare. they are more into corporations, big companies, industries... M$ softwares run the machines that build your cars, they have these softwares which are unique and very performant, but completely useless in real life... M$ endeavours the rich market... they can sell a customized desktop engine for a bank at 5M$ just because they have clients with money. Apple never did that, and maybe it's something that make them loose a lot from the start... but i suppose it's a choice to be more end-user...

the only thing we can compare between Windows and Mac OS (not PC and Mac, be more logic) is the interface and the choice of tools on each engines... PC have more variations of any tool you can have a need for... Mac usually have one or two versions (like a HD cleaner, a Files directory) ... that's a different way to see things. for a long time, there was only one compression engine available, Stuffit... now the Mac have .zip files by default, but the best compression engine is still Stuffit... and PC users requested to have it for a long time so to make the market more fluid, the company was sold to a corporation that provide support for Windows users...

comparing PC pieces with Mac pieces ?!... pointless now... the CPU is a Intel on both... you say yours is more powerful? it's pride, not performance. versions of Intel CPU on Mac and PC are not the same, because they are not released in batches, but they are from Intel... faster CD burner?!... what about Pioneer drive on Dell or Mac, are the same models... which one is better?... maybe the Mac would cost 5$ more, but you have better service...

Plug&Play configuration?... Mac have that ability to have a single Software/Hardware provider so you have no real choice on features... you can choose whatever type of enhancements when you go to Dell or Packard or all these companies... but does it worth it? really? i mean, you have to pay more if you add more... on a Mac, you do not pay for performance, you pay for more hardware... if you buy a Video Card on a PC, you have to have the motherboard that fits it.. you also have to buy more RAM to make the latest games run on your old PC... on a Mac, you just have to update your OS when it is required to have a more recent one... hardly you will find a game that require more RAM or a better monitor on a Mac, because the standard is there for a long time. i can actually play a PC game on my Mac without having the minimum PC configuration...

PC parts... yes i prefer to have a PC with the choice of hardware... i would have a case with so much HD, you can't imagine the hassle of partitioning a 2TB HD...

i have a Mac Mini.. the smallest desk computer that is... i can't run COD 4 because that game refuse to run with a Intel video card... pathetic... a PC game ported to Mac which continue to act like on a PC. i usually loose my Mac mini on my desktop once a week because of the trash i put on the desk.. papers, documents, CDs, headset, kleenex box, books... i need a GPS!

Let's not forget our good old friend Mr Bill Gates. He has a MacBook Pro and a iMac 24"

and Steve Jobs have the latest Win7 in his new Mac Pro... :)

they are not competing, they are not doing the same job...

I've got several macs, windows based computer,s and a linux box or two sitting around.

Somebody in this thread is just a bit too enamored with Apple. :eek:

For the Mac fans, you should thank Xerox. ;)

you talk about me ?!

you dare looking at me ?!

come on, give some reason why you would choose a Windows desktop IF you know both platforms equally... (because 99% of PC fans never even touched a Mac keyboard, so how compare)

All my computers run Windows. Don't really have a need or a desire to run anything else. Only Linux machine in the house is the DVR and only because it had Linux embedded already. Switched the home file server to Windows Home Server instead of Linux.

Work.. Maybe it doesn't matter in Web Development which platform that you use. However I switched from Macs to Windows based PCs when I was doing heavy work in the Banking and Insurance agencies doing C and C++ programming. Simply were not any development companies in Los Angeles that were using Macintoshes. Design companies were but not development companies. Since then I haven't touched a Mac and have no real desire to.

You sure I can not com to your house and sleep in your linux box?

for the Ferrari fans, you should thanks Ford...

please stop the rememberances... you talk about features or not... tsss

[high]* nexialys thanks Xerox, for the day one... day two, Bill Gates was to be thanked... he told Jobs he would provide a OS... damn, he lied...[/high]

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THAT is an opinion... people comparing features are not in the right path... Wayne compare the needs, that's the only thing we need to compare.. :)

Ouch! sorry to hurt you Mr Nexi... but I'm not the guy that make ppl fall on their logic, 'me not time to spare on who said what...'
statics show that almost 70% in the world uses PCs and that public institutions prefer PCs over Macs... this is an artificial 'antagonist behavior' PC vs Mac... who was first the chicken or the egg...
even Mac never did the revolution caused for the Sony Walkman and everybody knows ENIAC on this biz :) [almost everybody]

*No Mac involved*

http://www.arcadia.progvisual.com/original.jpg

You've just proven my point.

In the online world, it can be fine to be agnostic and use different platforms for development since it should not matter. In the rest of the business world, it is primarily a PC/Windows environment. We have a few Macs floating around the company here but mostly for testing & for some graphics applications; that's it. Everything else is PC based.

Learn to practice what you preach.

we have a...
power book
a thinkpad running kunbuntu
and a desktop running vista

so I guess we are both :D

windows



*hides again from Nex*

did i say i was against windows users anyway... tsss...

the only thing i say is "if you never touched a mac, stop telling that a Mac is just bullsh*t"...

i'm not a Mac evangelist though, there are some details in a Mac that i hate... lack of flexibility in extensions, lack of great games, lack of a great keyboard, the damn integrated DVD burner can not be replaced on compact models, cost way too much to repair when the guaranty is out...

Mac here. I've had to use Windoze machines for work, but at home I've always had a Mac. I do have parallels installed with MiniXP running, but haven't started that up in a few months.

I perfer Windows and Linux. :)

Let's keep it civil... This thread wasn't started as a debate... ;)

I don't know any of the tech stuff. I just want to push a button and have it work.

So for me... Which one breaks down less?

I know I have never had to reinstall the operating system on my current Mac - I've had it for two years now. My kids, however, seem to reinstall the OS about twice a year (and boy are they grouchy when they have to do that!). But, they use their system for gaming, the parents use theirs for coding/browsing. So, that may have something to do with it.

PCs, I don't like using macs, I find the OS very cumbersome. Though for speed, it was prity swift in photoshop at the time.

PC me 100% :D

Hah. Real computer users order their team of trained attack ninjas to enter commands on the keyboard. Real users don't need to know anything other than that their needs will be met. The instruments between the command and the end result are irrelevant.

Rapscallion

Lets say that someone offered you a iMac that you could keep.

Would you accept it?

No. I wouldn't accept it.

i would exchange it with a PPC mini-mac... i already have some iMac at home, i need an old version of the mini-Mac to drive the old games i have for the kids...

because yeah, something horrible with a Mac is that if you have old OS-9 games, they do not run anymore on a Intel mac...

if i remember right, you can drive older games like Win98 on your Vista without a problem ?!

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accept it, accept it... and give it as a christmas gift to your worst neighbour... :)

I was listening to a radio talk show host a while back explain why he preferred a Mac and it all boiled down to his power on button being located on his monitor for the computer so he didnt have to bend down and press it on the box and the fact he doesnt have to press three buttons together at times. It made me laugh at his reasoning but its all fair. I'm just thankful that we do have options and can choose which we like better.
Ive only bought one computer off the shelf and that was about 15 years ago. Since then I have built my own from parts I have purchased as upgrades over time. I actually prefer it that way. I can pick and choose what my needs are and they often change depending on where my latest interest takes me. Thats what I like about being a PC user. I call it freedom. Some would argue that I'm limiting myself to windows but the truth is my windows isnt set up like anyone elses is and I can change it tommorrow if I feel like it. I tend to take the bloat out and run my preferred apps instead of Microsofts. Some would say that is a hassle but I dont see it that way. I see it as fine tuning. When i get in my car after my wife drives it I move the seat, adjust the mirrors, and change the radio station. She doesnt touch my PC (thank god) so it is all me "an expression of myself". If I felt like I could achieve that better with a Mac I would own one. Nothing against those who do own them I just prefer to own a PC. If there were only two models of vehicles on the planet, a four door sedan and a pickup truck, I would own two pickups. Funny that whats in the driveway. Like my PC's I can can just do more with them. Not to say a Mac user cant but your probably doing different stuff.

Mac users CAN'T... that's one of the down on all Macs, besides the Mac Pro which is monstruously costly, you can not customize anything on a Mac... that's why i bought the Mac-mini (mini-mac for me) as it's only the computer box... i have my old monitor, my prefered keyboard and mouse, speakers etc... but i can't change a thing on that computer but the size of the HD or the RAM...

i prefer PC for the instance of customization... i may have a 500Gigs solid-state HD on my computer, i'd like to have two.. lol no place for it. i could do it with a Mac Pro, but the box is way bigger, and that's why i actually sold my older Mac Pro... too big, it was heating my entire living room just by being open.

what i like about Windows though is the way some functions are built: if you select to shutdown the computer, it is not asking you to approve the action, as on the Mac... the logic is solid... if you reach the shutdown option in the menu, it is because you really want to shutdown, no error.

I have an old ppc mac mini also haha cracked that sucker open as soon as I got it to add more ram haha nice little computer :)

I dig the new imac though ;)

Eh... Mac. I recognize that it doesn't get much 3rd party support, but that's honestly the only thing I don't like about it. So far it's been reliable and fast.

@Wayne Luke: Elitist jerk. :p

I am a Windows guy but I will say i have not used a tone of mac i have owned to laptops though a few years old and was not really a big fan of them

One point for the good guys... :D take that Jobs! :down:

:D in fact I love Steve Jobs talent for design, man, great guy... but Macs are too overrated...

I have a MAC and 4 PCs in my house. The MAC is my personal computer. It owns any PC I have in the house.