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11-12-2008 01:50 AM

Japanese Internet vs. North American Internet (pic)
 
Japanese Internet vs. North American Internet (pic)

:confused: Just wondering can that be true? Can't believe that.

SEOvB 11-12-2008 02:06 AM

Yes it can be, many many many factors can contribute to it, but overall i'd imagine their IT infrastructure over there to be slightly better than in america

who knows what kind of connections they used for the comparasion as wel.

Digital Jedi 11-12-2008 04:15 AM

Wouldn't surpise me if it were true. I'm not sure what population density has to do with it, though. But it wouldn't surprise me if everything else is so. I've always felt the internet should be a free service anyway.

Shelley_c 11-12-2008 07:29 AM

The stats don't tell a great deal. There are too many factors to consider for this to be accurate. I never take notice of these kind of stats because often than not they don't paint the full picture.

Brad 11-12-2008 09:13 AM

Most Japanese enjoy great speeds at home. They also enjoy keeping us westerners out of their P2P networks by enforcing minimum transfer speeds that are hard to maintain from a residential cable or DSL connection on this side of the world.

Nearly everyone over there has fiber running into their home. The unlucky ones might still be on a DSL connection but it still offers service far faster than you'll see offered in the states or Canada.

Dean C 11-12-2008 01:21 PM

I'm sorry but JP users don't all get 100mbit in their homes.

iogames 11-12-2008 02:52 PM

I don't care if it's free, I don't care if it's fast...

I would not go there... :mad:

http://japansugoi.com/wordpress/wp-c...ese_toilet.jpg

KevinL 11-12-2008 05:26 PM

That looks hard to sit on....

davidw 11-12-2008 10:56 PM

I've not seen one of those toilets since I lived in Japan. Universal-sex bathrooms and squatting toilets - this pic brought back memories. :P

Sawa Dee SohL 11-12-2008 11:03 PM

Ugh, looks like it'd be awefully easy to miss that if squatting >_>

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Is that good or bad? Was a about 100 miles away from where I'm actually at. Closest destination was Seattle..

davidw 11-12-2008 11:11 PM

That's three times better than what I've got 8mb down / 512mb up.

Ryan Ashbrook 11-22-2008 04:39 PM

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=/

Brad 11-23-2008 10:19 AM

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It's better than what I used to have. ;) Still not fast enough for my needs though...need better upload bandwidth. :(

Wayne Luke 11-23-2008 04:34 PM

Mine is slow today.. usually is around 20,000 - 22,000 download. However if you compare it to Brad's, you will see that bandwidth can vary even among a single provider. Not sure which package Brad has but I have their extreme package which is $56.00 a month.

I live in a semi-rural area though there are two fair sized cities locally.

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iogames 11-23-2008 07:38 PM

I live in Los Angeles, CA.

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KTBleeding 11-25-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinL (Post 1664332)
That looks hard to sit on....

Do you normally sit on a urinal? ;)

Brad 11-25-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1664255)
I don't care if it's free, I don't care if it's fast...

I would not go there... :mad:

If you have a problem with that then I'm not even going to tell you what the shower/bath situation is over there. If you do go I hope you aren't shy about begin naked in front of strangers or sharing bath water! :D

The traditional toilets aren't that hard to use assuming you have good balance when squatting and haven't gone overboard on the sake'

bluesoul 11-26-2008 01:37 PM

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Louisville, KY

kevcj 11-26-2008 07:04 PM

When it comes to internet access, the USA is way, way, far, very far behind other developed nations. I live 4 - 5 miles from the center of town, only about 1 mile outside the city limits and I can not get DSL. The only high speed internet is cable modem and its slow.

The telephone company has no plans on offering DSL, they say its not worth it to build this area for DSL.

iogames 11-26-2008 08:38 PM

Developed nations?

wasn't the internet created here? [USA]
does Americans have more web access/computers/business percapita than any other nation?

Wayne Luke 11-27-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcj (Post 1673552)
When it comes to internet access, the USA is way, way, far, very far behind other developed nations. I live 4 - 5 miles from the center of town, only about 1 mile outside the city limits and I can not get DSL. The only high speed internet is cable modem and its slow.

DSL goes out 25 miles from the center of town locally. However the technology only allows it within 2 miles of a switching station whereas a POTS connection can be about 100 miles from the switching station. One of the liabilities of building digital communications on technology that is 130 years old. As copper is replaced with fiber optics this will change though. The issue in the United States is that there are several different companies that own interconnecting networks. There isn't a single large entity that owns it. It would cost 100s of billions of dollars to upgrade it. We could ask the taxpayers to foot the bill but it should be the rate subscribers to do so. I already pay for my access through Time Warner, I don't want to pay to improve service for Verizon customers locally.

You can probably get wireless internet if there is line of sight from the transceiver tower. This has a 50-75 mile range and can get decent speeds. Not comparable to cable, which is generally faster than copper line DSL, but comparable to DSL. This is what my ex-wife has. Since we live in a valley and the antennas are on the mountains, they have been able to get about a 90 mile range on this locally with speeds up to 5 megabyte downloads. There was a plan in the city that I live in to install these in every park and offer all residents 5 MB connections for $20.00/month. Then Time Warner bought out Adelphia and true internet was given to the community. Doesn't even compare to DSL locally that had about 60% uptime and most of the time wasn't faster than a standard modem.

SEOvB 11-27-2008 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcj (Post 1673552)
When it comes to internet access, the USA is way, way, far, very far behind other developed nations. I live 4 - 5 miles from the center of town, only about 1 mile outside the city limits and I can not get DSL. The only high speed internet is cable modem and its slow.

The telephone company has no plans on offering DSL, they say its not worth it to build this area for DSL.

Tell the phone company to pound it and start your own DSL company :D Its already been fought and won in courts that you can make use of the telephone lines just like the phone company does.

Digital Jedi 11-27-2008 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1672688)
Do you normally sit on a urinal? ;)

That picture would be a squat toilet, not a urinal.

11-27-2008 06:17 PM

Whatever the case looks kind of risky to use it! lol.

Shamil. 12-03-2008 05:26 PM

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They have latrines in Mauritius :(

UncoderMom 12-05-2008 02:08 AM

I live 30 miles or more from this server... In a rural area. Not bad for me I guess. LOL

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Oooh yeah, RR has this new burstable upload thing....

hahah I guess I'm 50 miles from the server. :eek: WTH? 143 MS??

Coldhands 12-05-2008 01:23 PM

Err... It's not about population density, it's about hub density.

Think of the density at starbucks for example. The speed test goes great when you're the only one there, but more people does not equal faster internet, it just has to do with location to server and how many other people are watching youtube that night.

It's not as simple as apples and oranges. And comparing Japan to Canada? WTH? It's not like it's too hard to find variance in those two countries to make a point. Kudos to that guy.

"Really fast hookups" are available in most major cities in NA.

Rapscallion 12-05-2008 04:42 PM

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Yorkshire, UK - cable internet access.

Rapscallion

azn_romeo_4u 12-11-2008 03:01 AM

Yes it's true not sure about the 100mbit though, but they are definately faster than the U.S. They the japanese, have the worlds fastest networks. I believe it's because they just launched this super advance satellite just last year. I remember reading it on digg.com

kevcj 12-17-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1673599)
Developed nations?

wasn't the internet created here? [USA]
does Americans have more web access/computers/business percapita than any other nation?

I seriously doubt it. I live 3 miles outside of town, which has a population of about 8,000 people. DSL only services a small fraction of the population. Instead of running fiber out to the neighborhoods, SBC is more focused on the commercial and business service.

Just 1/4 mile from my neighborhood is a nice middle class area with maybe a hundred homes. And guess what, no DSL.

The only provider of high speed internet is the cable company. They are about 10 years behind the technology curve. The only fiber they have is to their head end. My house is about 7 miles about 30 amps from the cable companies head end. an amp is used to boost the signal. Everytime the signal is boosted, noise is inserted into the carrier signal.

8 - 10 years ago when other cable companies were running fiber, the provider in my area was ignoring that trend.

Some parts of southeast texas, such as bridge city, orange and beaumont just got DSL in the past couple of years. And I mean just that - in the past 2 or 3 years. Between the years 2000 - 2002 Time Warner rebuilt their entire system with fiber fed nods to the neighborhoods. In the mean time, SBC sat on their hands and let TW grab 75%+ of the high speed market in south east texas.

Its as if these companies do not care about providing a service. They are making money, why do they need to do anything else? In a way, the management of SBC is hurting the technology development of the USA.

externalaw.com 12-18-2008 11:59 AM

I guess if you prefer sitting there were someone else rubbed their hairy but and spilled some drops, the western alternative is better.... for me I always take the Japanese one as its clean and no but rubbing..

Digital Jedi 12-18-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by externalaw.com (Post 1687936)
I guess if you prefer sitting there were someone else rubbed their hairy but and spilled some drops, the western alternative is better.... for me I always take the Japanese one as its clean and no but rubbing..

Contrary to popular belief, Americans do not sit around Starbucks surfing the web butt naked.

...

Though it is an idea...

Wayne Luke 12-18-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Jedi (Post 1687976)
Contrary to popular belief, Americans do not sit around Starbucks surfing the web butt naked.

We don't? Damn.. I need to stop doing that then. No wonder people were staring.

Digital Jedi 12-18-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1688170)
We don't? Damn.. I need to stop doing that then. No wonder people were staring.

That would probably also explain the peculiar laptop shaped tan lines.


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