Since vBulletin.org won't use 3.7...
 

And I heard they'll either upgrade for 3.8 or 4.0, what features would they enable? Would they enable any of the social networking features like the advanced profiles, social groups, tags, etc? Would they enable the new fixes enabled in 3.8 onwards like the PM search or the like? Would they change the board style when vBulletin 4.0 is released?

Now, you don't have to answer, I'm just wondering whether this board would be expected to have any new features before 2015.

my 2¢ ... here we do not need any of the 3.7 features... and we could even drop some of the actual gadgets...

one of the best thing that could occur would be to release all the existing useful hacks that are behind the scene, and we could rehearse them, add new structure, making them products, or better tools... i know there is a lot of great tools here, and making them private is just the opposite of this site.

Never even though of them releasing their internal modifications for vBulletin.org, but that would actually be a pretty good idea. That way, people who run similar sites could use similar setups to vBulletin.org, they could as you said be improved and people would more easily appreciate just how much has been modified at vBulletin.org.

Ah, so we are supposed to guess and then after they upgrade we see who was the most correct in their guess?

I'll guess that they do not enable social networking. Or actually, can you enable it with predefined groups to join? So users can't go and make their own groups but only join ones that are predefined or OK'd by Staff?

I'll also guess they don't turn on albums. I just don't see a need for them here.

I'm a bad one to guess since I am not running 3.7 on my live board yet and I'm not familiar with all the things you can turn on and off.

And where did you heard that they would either upgrade to 3.8 or 4.0? I am kinda thinking you are correct since 3.8 is on vb.com, but I do wonder where you heard it.

You can make it so only staff can make social groups under Usergroup permissions.

Maybe, maybe not.

Since they said here not 3.7, and possibly the others:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....3&postcount=14

Thanks for the link. I had not seen that. (But, I'm also not surprised about the statement.)

There are no plans to enable social networking or albums, not sure about tags, they may or may not be useful, we havent really thought about that yet. As for the PM changes in 3.8, they would obviously just work as you cannot disable them as such (nor can I see why we would).

Who can say what will happen when 4.0 is released, certainly not us. As for new features before 2015 - I'm just going to assume thats a sarcastic question.

Most of the modifications at vb.org will never be released because they are all linked together, they are not "seperate" bits then can just be packaged up and released. For instance, all the functions are in one file, most of the plugins are in one main product, there is one misc_actions file that many actions/forms call. We dont have the time to split them all up, package them, release them - and of course, maintain and support them.

Also, one or two are modified versions of existing mods that would require permission to release them from the original author - others were written by staff who have now left, and would (I think) need their permission to release.

BTW, Just out of interest, since most are fairly specialised mods for this site, which would you consider as useful ?

Latest forum poll on any non-vb page.

I mean I know we don't get along all the time but Paul, do a search on Poll or Poll Page, or something, this has been asked for several times on both .com and .org. The only one that offers this currently is vbadvanced, yet .com and .org do not. If everyone uses vbadvanced we lose the originality of custom websites and boards out there, making cookie cutter front pages.

We really need that one.

I like your Chief First Post concept but that's been modded, more importantly is the notices under a thread looking like ( see attachment )

But you've given the best reasoning as to why they are not released, I didn't know they were all tied together and I'm sure those little notices are tied deep into the system, but the poll one is probably releasable and would help a lot of sites.

Thanks,

LoA

I haven't seen what is 'behind the scenes' here for moderators, but I'm guessing you have some sort of predefined reply to posts here (and at vb.com?). I would love something like that on my site. There is something similar here, but there have been some comments made that it isn't using pre-existing vb code and therefore isn't as efficient as it could be.

And thanks for the explanation about the code here. I didn't realize it was all tied together either, although it really makes sense to do so. (I know I can't split up some of the mods I've written for my site for the exact same reason.)

Just the unlicensed message is pre-defined. And the modification system is tied to the license check system - meaning we'd have to manage two different versions if it was ever released.

That really is not vBadvanced or anyone else's fault in particular. That's due to a lack of imagination on the part of vBadvanced users. Lots of different looks can be achieved with vBadvanced if creative people put their mind to it. I still don't understand what you have against installing vBadvanced and just using the Poll module by itself. It's real easy to delete/add modules in the program.

As far as modifications go, I don't think I've seen a comparative version, but I'd like the ability to "tag" threads as they do with Installed/Uninstalled/Downloaded/Tagged prefixes and then be able to put the View by Criterion option in the User CP. I don't run a modifications site, but I can see where I could make use of the feature for other reasons as long as I could change the prefix names.

--------------- Added [DATE]1223149424[/DATE] at [TIME]1223149424[/TIME] ---------------

Would that be the Canned Replies mod for 3.7?

Yes. Although I see he's made several revisions to the mod since the initial comments were made.

I've always just made use of replacement variables for moderators, regular users will never guess them as we use a format like

{@no_permission@} = Sorry the reason you can not do this action is because you do not have the proper permissions, See this thread here with more information.

Works wonders!

I don't use replacement variables, but I did write a replacement plugin for certain words that the mods write (like if they write Band Restriction Policy, it is rewritten to be a linked to the Band Restriction Policy in the FAQ). I didn't use replacement variables because that replaces words that everybody writes and also the words anywhere in the site and I only wanted it for mods in posts. I have actually found that it would work for phrases also, so I *could* use it to do what I want. But, having a little drop-down to input the whole post would be nicer.

1) You'd have to dramatically alter vBadvanced so that is does not look like everyone else's site out there.

2) Why would I want to install vBadvanced's complete modification for one option? All that hasn't been released on .org is the Poll option, and maybe latest blog on front page but I bet if I did a search that mod has been released to. I'm not gonna give vbadvanced a link from my site because I used one option of there 10 modules.

3) Even if I did I'd have to pay vBadvanced for branding free option just to use one module of 10, I don't need the others, I only need Poll. PLUS, many other members have asked for it, it's not just me.

Speaking for vBulletin.com, there is no such thing as canned responses built into the forum software there. If there was it would be in the released software. We don't run any modifications on vBulletin.com.

All my replies and tips on how to resolve issues are stored in a Microsoft Onenote notebook that I reference and update as needed. Others have their own means of storing them.

The only "canned" message on vb.org is the "unlicensed" message.

and the "you are not a moderator, nexia, so calm down"... lol

No, thats a special infraction created just for you. :D

I hope I can stick around long enough to get my own special infraction message. <3


Anyways, I'd love to see something like the vBulletin.org MOD area. The MOD system is okay, I just like this one better. :)

Is there a timeline of such rather than (when we can get around to doing it response) for the upgrading of vbulletin.org?

I have a suggestion. Members pooling together to hire a dedicated person who constantly updates and maintains vb.org. Obviously, jelsoft would need to pass this. I'm wondering how many members would pool together for a dedicated maintenance/developer for the org. Maybe that would be best posted at .com.

hum,your suggestion would mean that we have to kick the actual staff who are not upgrading the site?!

vb.org is not a showroom for the latest version, so i don't see why they would focus on updating. the goal is the chat and release of addons/hacks... we could even use phpBB as a forum and the result would be the same, we would chat and release vbulletin hacks anyway.

I don't understand the big push to update...

Either do I.

I can imagine everyone posting help questions on my visitor messages... good thing that can be turned off. (can it? not sure now).

SN could be a nice toy to play on this site, but I wouldn't really need.

Yes, you may turn off Visitor Messages. :cool:

you can activate the VM for your contacts, admins, all or nobody... :)

nice, maybe I would keep it on just to create some havoc

as for updating this site to the latest version, having the latest version is good but I don't care much

as for the old "let the community take care of vb org" discussion I will say however I would like to see Jelsoft hiring people to take care of the coding of this site (no need to hire 100 moderators as this site requires) which is the hard part of the job. tried posting this at vb.com but topic was closed and I was yelled at. but whatever *sigh* I was just passing by this forum and I don't care that much.

it should be downgraded to vb 2.x

:o

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/02/110.png

I got VB 1.5 if thats any help :D:D

Man, now those are the good ol' days.

I really miss vB 2.

With Only 222 members they were like family :D

No, there is no timeline. The site is running quite happily on 3.6.x atm.

so there probably wont be an upgrade to 4.0?

i think the reason so many people are asking is because it's great to see some mods in action on a forum software that they are using.

on my 3.8 board i was always getting inspired by other boards for features. especially from vb.org. with the chief posts, downloads (installs), etc. i got so much off this site. i often checked other people's sites too. but when you find decent functions on other people's forums, half of the time you can't find a mod/plugin for it here. so i gave up on checking out other people's forums a while back.

vb.com doesn't use mods so it's always been great for me to see on vb.org what vbulletin can really do. and i'd often even use it as a reference for people that i'd design forums for. but with 4.0 looking so much better than 3.6-8 i can't really do that anymore. and i'm sure there are more people in the same or atleast a similar boat as me.

by the way who kicked nexialys? how come he's only a guest now?

i'm sorry i replied to this old thread but it seems as though all the new "why aren't we on 4.0 threads" are closed after a moderators reply saying "look for on of the many other when are you updating posts".

and how do you think this one is going to end then...?

There will be an upgrade eventually - as soon as all the necessary modifications have been planned, coded and tested. How soon is that? I don't know.

thanks for replying dismounted. i'm sure there will be an update at some point. the question is really whether it'll be around the 4.0.x era, the 4.1.x era, or the 4.5.x-5.x.x era.

We will most likely perform the next major upgrade of vBulletin.org using vBulletin 4.0.x.

Hopefully 4.0.2 :D