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sinucello 09-07-2008 06:07 PM
Very inspiring
 
Hi,

today I noticed that this site was updated:
*deleted as the site owner might want to announce it herself*

It`s by far the most beautiful and usable vB site I´ve ever seen. So much love went into the details, so much skill and work was needed for all those changes. I just wanted to say thank you for showing us what is possible.

Enough said, now back to work and trying to improve my own site ;-).

all the best,
Sacha

Ziki 09-07-2008 06:32 PM
Wow indeed :)

Taragon 09-07-2008 08:45 PM
it's awesome :) it's a great update!

SEOvB 09-08-2008 01:39 AM
Good example of alot of time and combining what alot of other software packages offer into vBulletin. Nicely, nicely done!

Shazz 09-08-2008 01:56 AM
Even if it was in english I still wouldn't know it was a vB :D

iogames 09-08-2008 03:37 AM
Artful...

but why the 'early review'? don't you think the owner have the right to request a full review at her/his convenience?

sinucello 09-08-2008 05:42 AM
Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1617095)
but why the 'early review'? don't you think the owner have the right to request a full review at her/his convenience?
sure, it was not my intention to tread on so.'s toes. I was so thrilled about the design that I didn`t even think about the fact that the site might not be ready yet. I`d be very sorry if this should be the case and will delete my post now.

all the best,
Sacha

valdet 09-08-2008 08:45 AM
aahh, missed the URL and the fun :)

Please post back the URL here, when the owner decides to publish his site for review.

veenuisthebest 09-08-2008 09:04 AM
That site belongs to Michelle and earlier looked like this which was also great. A wonderful designer i must say.

sinucello 09-08-2008 10:05 AM
Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by veenuisthebest (Post 1617235)
That site belongs to Michelle and earlier looked like this which was also great.
it`s not very polite to post the URL when the OP decided to remove it, is it? But I guess trying to hide it now is useless anyway. The cat is out of the bag.

all the best,
Sacha

Marco van Herwaarden 09-08-2008 10:11 AM
I guess he saw this as a chance to advertise his own site, at the costs of the website owner.

veenuisthebest 09-08-2008 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinucello (Post 1617265)
Hi,
it`s not very polite to post the URL when the OP decided to remove it, is it? But I guess trying to hide it now is useless anyway. The cat is out of the bag.

all the best,
Sacha
I JUST showed a small screenshot of her site's previous skin, sir ! I didn't knew if it had something to do with my politeness. BTW that screenshot won't last forever, it would update in a few days.

Thank you

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1617271)
I guess he saw this as a chance to advertise his own site, at the costs of the website owner.
my goodness, i can't believe you people (incl. the admins) think this way ! Go ahead and please remove the URL if you wish. I don't mind at all.

nexialys 09-08-2008 10:26 AM
I think that as we already have a BOTM contest and the Community Reviews, site owners are the ones to start advertising the design of their sites, not fans... i know the site may be awesome to look at, but if Michelle, or anyother owner do not want to be advertised, it's their own right.

btw, as Michelle already said to me, her site is her life... do the same with your site and it will feel like you, be like you, etc...

iogames 09-08-2008 02:32 PM
Spooooiliiiing!

Quote:
spoil (spoil)
v. spoiled or spoilt (spoilt), spoil?ing, spoils
v.tr.
1.
a. To impair the value or quality of.
b. To damage irreparably; ruin.
2. To impair the completeness, perfection, or unity of; flaw grievously: spoiled the party.
3. To do harm to the character, nature, or attitude of by oversolicitude, overindulgence, or excessive praise. See Synonyms at pamper.
4. Archaic
a. To plunder; despoil.
b. To take by force.

nexialys 09-08-2008 09:10 PM
AH, come on Josh, i'm not spoiling the thread.. lol

Guest210212002 09-08-2008 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1617271)
I guess he saw this as a chance to advertise his own site, at the costs of the website owner.
Oh yes, the terrible cost indeed. :rolleyes: You guys all need to lighten up.

If I update my site and someone wants to make a thread praising it, by all means feel free.

SEOvB 09-08-2008 09:42 PM
Maybe he is lightened up? Maybe he was just doing some ole' fashioned "ball busting" and everyone else has taken it the wrong way?

I do believe if he wasn't lightened up, rather then make a post taking a little non-harmful poke at a member, he could have simply said End of discussion and closed the thread?

legionofangels 09-08-2008 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris-777 (Post 1617711)
Oh yes, the terrible cost indeed. :rolleyes: You guys all need to lighten up.

If I update my site and someone wants to make a thread praising it, by all means feel free.
I agree it's not advertising, that is so stupid. I advertise every time I post, and it's allowed in the rules, yet if a thread is made on "wow this site is cool" the first thing they think is you're advertising your own forum.

I looked at it the other day and who cares whether the owner wants to advertise or not, you can't stop other websites or users from saying "hey check this out" and why would you want to? That's like saying I'm making a website that I don't want anyone to come visit.

I seen it the other day and was impressed at the flash style changer they have, I would love that modification, leave my site on like a white style always and let them see the color boxes and choose as they want.

Anyone know the owner of that site so I can contact them?

King Kovifor 09-08-2008 11:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by legionofangels (Post 1617740)
I agree it's not advertising, that is so stupid. I advertise every time I post, and it's allowed in the rules, yet if a thread is made on "wow this site is cool" the first thing they think is you're advertising your own forum.

I looked at it the other day and who cares whether the owner wants to advertise or not, you can't stop other websites or users from saying "hey check this out" and why would you want to? That's like saying I'm making a website that I don't want anyone to come visit.

I seen it the other day and was impressed at the flash style changer they have, I would love that modification, leave my site on like a white style always and let them see the color boxes and choose as they want.

Anyone know the owner of that site so I can contact them?
As mentioned before the Owner is Michele from vB.org. Advertising in signatures is allowed, but threads as you have said are not. Posts some times also can fall into this category.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1617718)
Maybe he is lightened up? Maybe he was just doing some ole' fashioned "ball busting" and everyone else has taken it the wrong way?

I do believe if he wasn't lightened up, rather then make a post taking a little non-harmful poke at a member, he could have simply said End of discussion and closed the thread?
As you can tell by the reply that no action was actually taken.

Digital Jedi 09-08-2008 11:22 PM
Yeah, I don't quite grasp why the link had to be removed either. You don't put stuff on the internet that you don't want found.

smacklan 09-09-2008 01:03 AM
Yes, very inspiring and original...but also quite sad that one's website is "their life".

iogames 09-09-2008 04:30 AM
Aaah! again we can't agree on this one, or the last, or the other one :rolleyes:

The site says: '20% Done' so I consider that she got the final result on her mind, and maybe is on her plans to post for review... but for what I saw, 'INSPIRING' :)

p.s. When I post I 'feel' like I'm giving good reasons, DON'T YA FEEL THE SAME???

Kinneas 09-09-2008 09:33 AM
It's a very cool looking site. Seen it a few times before :)
I think it showcases how customisable vBulletin is very well.

cheat-master30 09-09-2008 05:05 PM
This is a great site to link to when the next complainer says that vBulletin isn't customisable enough and that all vBulletin boards look the same.

KTBleeding 09-10-2008 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheat-master30 (Post 1618359)
This is a great site to link to when the next complainer says that vBulletin isn't customisable enough and that all vBulletin boards look the same.
Not "all" but at least 95% of them do.

vBulletin can be extremely customizable, given that you spend the 100+ hours turning all of the style files into something that isn't messy table structure. That's what most peoples complaints are. Not that it's "not customizable" but that it's extremely time consuming to customize, when it really shouldn't be.

nexialys 09-10-2008 01:23 PM
it is very complicated to customize your site from within vBulletin if you use the generic full-tabled style. as example, the last site i coded, thcfarmer... the designer knew nothing of vBulletin when he draw the site look... so i had to handle tons of modifications of his style to make it fit the default vBulletin -- because i wanted the site to be very easy to upgrade...

vB 4.0 will be CSS based, like we plan for ages... but again, a lot of people will complaint that CSS is hard to handle... because there is always a ton of people not interested to learn. they want turnkey "custom"..

nando99 09-10-2008 02:24 PM
A CSS based VB huh... that'll be freaking great..lol Customizing isn't as hard as some make it out ot be but it is time consuming like said above. my ultimate design goal for my vb site is for not to look like a forum period... i'm getting there - its just taking some time... the link posted/removed showed a good example of my goal...

Digital Jedi 09-15-2008 04:04 PM
"Easy" is a relative term. If you know a little bit about basic HTML, then modifying vB is not that bad. If you know nothing about HTML then it seems impossible. The problem with making it "easy" for those less experience with HTML is that the advanced type editor that they have in mind will actually be less flexible then modifying the raw template code, not to mention those types of editors tend to generate messy html.

KTBleeding 09-15-2008 04:42 PM
Not entirely true, Digital.

I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I would consider myself an expert at html markup, and vBulletin is by no means "easy" if you take time into consideration. Being a markup nazi myself, I hate vBulletins style with a passion. I don't really think I need to go into reasons why, I'll just say two simple words. Nested Tables.

I have made several tableless vB styles, and every time it kicked my ass. Took WAY too long to go in and redo everything. This is the main reason why I have two owned licenses stored away, that will probably never be used again.

vB should have focused on this style for 3.5. Hell, even 3.0. Semantic markup and css is not a difficult task, IE6 is your only problem, and even then it really isn't THAT bad if you take the precautions before hand.

/me ends rant

Digital Jedi 09-15-2008 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1622718)
Not entirely true, Digital.

I don't mean to sound arrogant, but I would consider myself an expert at html markup, and vBulletin is by no means "easy" if you take time into consideration. Being a markup nazi myself, I hate vBulletins style with a passion. I don't really think I need to go into reasons why, I'll just say two simple words. Nested Tables.

I have made several tableless vB styles, and every time it kicked my ass. Took WAY too long to go in and redo everything. This is the main reason why I have two owned licenses stored away, that will probably never be used again.

vB should have focused on this style for 3.5. Hell, even 3.0. Semantic markup and css is not a difficult task, IE6 is your only problem, and even then it really isn't THAT bad if you take the precautions before hand.

[high]* Digital Jedi ends rant[/high]
That's what I mean by "easy" being relative. I'm just siting two perspectives as I believe they would be the most common ones. I personally don't equate difficulty with time-consuming, but I'm sure others, such as yourself, do. My main point is that I feel the vast majority of admins who want vB to be "easier", while using a term that could be considered ambiguous, are really thinking in their heads of an advanced editor like Geocities uses, or the Design View in an HTML editor. The problem being that advanced web based editors are problematic.

And, being personal again, I would like to see something more akin to the latter. Either a free program to vB users or a plugin for Dreamweaver/Web Expression for editing templates.


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