Will it work with Joomla 1.5?
 

Hi,

I like the vBulletin and are interested in using it on my homepage. It is built on Joomla 1.5, so now I am wondering if anyone has the solution to get it to work on that platform.

Thanks in advance!
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Hi CCZ,

There used to be a modification that was in the works that integrated Joomla with Vbulletin but that has been postponed due to security risks. Besides trying to find a coder to make a bridge for Joomla and Vbulletin, there is also the plugin's from BBPixel that can integrate Joomla's and Vbulletin's database so users dont have to register twice but besides that its limited doesnt integrate themes or anything else.

Ryan

The only better thing, in my opinion, that Joomla has over vbulletin, is the gorgeous themes that they have all over, specially by rocketthemes. Otherwise there is nothing that Joomla has that vbulletin does not have 100 times much better.

Having said that, bbpixels is perhaps the best integration out there.

Question is, why would you need joomla when you can have that and more?

vBulletin and Joomla do different things. Joomla is entirely missing what VB does best - forums, but it doesn't integrate very well without modifications. Joomla is vastly superior to many other CMS products from the standpoint not only of graphic design, but also administration. However, it definitely has some limitations and/or drawbacks.

Right now, I am testing JFusion (integrates logins between vb/joomla) right now with Joomla 1.5 and various versions of vBulletin, but don't have anything to report yet -- I've only been at it about a week. I decided to forego BBPixel because it costs money, is weakly supported, and only suitable for small to medium installations that use a single database.

I warn you, getting help with VB and Joomla is nearly impossible. I have asked a half dozen people for help and posted several threads asking questions, both here, on VBulletin.com, and at joomla.org, and have gotten zero responses. YMMV. Most people give up and use stinky SMF or PHBB3 because there is no momentum for getting VB integrated with Joomla for some reason.

It's hard to figure why VB is headed into the facebook clone direction instead of the CMS integration direction.

Best regards,
GJ

Joomla does have a pretty face both in front end and back end. However, it is definitely not suitable for a community. With only 16,000 members in my database, any vbulletin page flies and opens right away while the joomla pages struggle to open.

For a site who just wants a web presence on the internet, I will definitely go joomla all the way. But if you want security, interaction or community, nothing beats vbulletin.

Btw, bbpixels only cost 20.00 dollars and really once installed there is nothing to be supported. The only drawback with bbpixel is at every joomla or vbulletin upgrade, they must upgrade also.

That's like saying 'Well you can run Windows XP, but I use Word.' Just makes no sense. They're not the same thing. Joomla = CMS. vBulletin = Forums. Besides I thought you didn't use Joomla because it's not right? I think this is just confusing the OP.

The take-away message is that in any case Joomla integration with VB is weak, but possible. We have 11k members on our corporate intranet and I'm pretty happy with the performance. The largest part of it runs on PeopleSoft (which freakin rocks), where we have a great many custom apps written internally, and part on Joomla (nearly everything that isn't an app comes from Joomla). It's not lightning fast, but good, and we only have one computer serving as the DB server for Joomla and one for the actual App server.

Regards,
G

At the end of the day it's a matter of settling between a pretty looking backend and one that has hundreds more needed options.

Both vbulletin and Joomla 1.5 name their database access object as $db. Hence, integration will remain impossible until the advent of namespaces with PHP 5.3. This was one (of a few) reasons I gave up on the mod (I was the one attempting it).

No it's not? Dude, you either haven't used Joomla, or you really just don't know what its purpose is. Joomla is CMS. It touches everything that vBulletin doesn't.

And I recommend not trying to integrate vBulletin with anything. Ever. Joomla already has a great (FREE) forum module available that ties in perfectly.
Meet Fireboard.

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There are a couple reasons that I can think of.

1. vBulletin is a pain in the ass to integrate / convert to anything because of its' 2x (or 3x) md5 hashing.
2. Nobody wants to pay $85 - $160 just to figure out how to do the integration.

Yes, it absolutely is. I find it ridiculous, and it's the reason that I am turning my back on vB. The facebook thing would have appealed to people probably three years ago when they were asking for it. Now there have already been alternatives to use, and vB is late to jump on the bandwagon, imo.

They need to focus on being just a forum. And get their god awful skin to work without the hundreds of ugly messy tables. I'm tired of spending over 20 hours to skin vB because I make it tableless. It's ridiculous.

I think that you have no idea of what vbulletin is or can do.

Or perhaps we don't see eye to eye on what a "message board / forum" should be?

You seem to like the billions of pointless features that are thrown into vB. I like a forum that is clean and to the point. Categories, discussions, and nothing more.

Then there is no point to discuss. Get simpleboard or something very simplistic. There are a lot that will work with Joomla. Or go to to hotscripts.com

I've already found my alternative, and I'm not using Joomla or simpleboard.. but that isn't what this thread was about. I'm not looking for an alternative, I posted an alternative for the original poster to check out that works with his Joomla install.

i was thinking of using joomla but u lot have put me off it cause of the integration problem with vb and then someone saying it causes server load.

You can use them in concert, but I wouldn't try to integrate them. Joomla is a great CMS, so you really shouldn't need all your forum members to have Joomla accounts, right?

I originally set up vbulletin in Joomla 1.5 but my old version has so many components/plugin/modules that are not forward compatible, that I reverted back to 1.0.15. Even so, the product/plugin I wrote for vbulletin (3.6.8) does work for both for look/feel only.

I'm still investigating a login bridge, however, I may simply require my users to do an additional login when they want to download files (I'm using docman, which has far more functionality than download II). Also, though I do receive quite a few visitors, very few tend to actually post. That, and all of my forums are presently publicly viewable. So I may end up skipping the login bridge until something stable comes along. That, or... if I have time, write one myself.

In any event, you can see my joomla!vb integration here. Just click on forum in the menu bar. And, if you're interested in doing something similar, feel free to pm me. Or not. :shrugs:

I believe they are complimentary. Joomla can handle a more reasonable article structure, focusing in an article and its readers. Vbulletin, on the other hand, focuses in the discussion itself. I've been joomla+VB with bbpixel's integration for almost one year and I'm fully satisfied in a 55K members environment. I have a lot of visitors to both areas, joomla's frontend, and VB forum backend. They both have their strenghts and this way I can draw traffic from both.

Go to big-boards, see how many fireboards are there.

You've got a point in there, but see, there is a template system, you don't need to modify the core to get tableless.



Nice one. Anyway, I believe that using BBpixel's login integration, plus a little css effort, you could end up with a fairly decent integration.

But dude..

If that's what determines somebodies decision to go with vB over an alternative, that's just ridiculous. The percentage chance that your board is ever going to be big enough to be considered for "big boards" are so slim to none now-a-days.

Forums are no where near as popular as they were five years ago and that number is only going to get lower. The web is young and new things get brought to it every single day. Statistically, forums are becoming old news.

Also, I wouldn't say that it's fair to say Fireboards is out of the question because there are none on that site since Fireboards is new, where as vB and PHPBB are almost as old as the internet itself (joking).

But either way, I was simple stating that as far as integration goes, Fireboards would make more sense to use over vBulletin with Joomla. I wasn't stating an alternative to vBulletin itself.

Thanks. I've been following the BBpixel discussions (along with other login integration product discussions such as jfusion?which won't work for me since I'm still using joomla 1.0.15). In fact, I ran into similar problems (i.e., cannot log into admin) with jfusion and my sandboxed joomla 1.5 installation. Though, iirc, jfusion is still in beta. In any event, afaics, the various available solns are still far too unstable to use.

yeah credit to the current jfusion author for resurrecting the project, but he's still working on the main part I see.