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Weapon-x 01-20-2008 01:08 AM

What happened to controlling your kids?
 
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCJRMZ3C_g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCJRMZ3C_g</a>

Really what ever happened to controlling your kids?

UncoderMom 01-27-2008 09:35 PM

If you smack your kids you go to jail now. Clearly that child has lacked a few to many needed!

I swear! If my kids EVER talked to like that!!! :eek:

cheat-master30 01-27-2008 10:16 PM

After seeing various videos of kids smashing things and swearing constantly at everything, I'd say controlling them kind of went out of the window a few years ago.

no mods 01-27-2008 10:23 PM

If I ever talked to my mommy like that I would get the sh1t slapped out of me.:eek:

UncoderMom 01-27-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no mods (Post 1430405)
If I ever talked to my mommy like that I would get the sh1t slapped out of me.:eek:


LOL

deezelpope 01-27-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no mods (Post 1430405)
If I ever talked to my mommy like that I would get the sh1t slapped out of me.:eek:

Me too, and I would've deserved it!

Weapon-x 01-27-2008 11:28 PM

Why can't we spank children anymore? I mean its not like your abusing them. One spank won't do anything. Now a days if you spank your child you go to jail......who passed that stupid law? There is a big different from teaching them "NO" and "Abuse"

Abuse is reoccurring over and over again for no reason.

UncoderMom 01-28-2008 12:45 AM

But then, when they are so bad that the go to state boot camp..
the guards kill can them... but spanking is child abuse? hummmm... yeah riight!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/05/boo...ath/index.html

I live in FL and this one flipped the lid on the whole state.. They TRIED to blame it on his condition but a second autopsy by the parents proved that all wrong. There is a video of it some where.. I'll see if I can find it.

Government has no business raising our kids, I agree, Spanking and child abuse are two completely different things.

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http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/...l&d=2007-10-12

They were found not guilty. :eek:

It was described as a 30 minute scuffle... WTF? CHILD ABUSE!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DIdYzIaX9hQ

More info

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1593568.shtml

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Warning that youtube video is a little unsettling :(

MPDev 01-31-2008 10:24 PM

Ask yourself why you feel the need to spank your child; I have five kids, so can speak to the subject pretty well. If you have an opinion that suggests spanking your child is acceptable, please post up just how many kids you have so we know if you are talking from experience or just stupidity.

Spanking is often more about the parent's anger than it is about correcting bad behavior. Think about you - kid acts up, you get pissed and smack the kid. That wasn't for his benefit - it was for yours. Would you still do that if you took a few minutes to chill? When your having a bad day at work and asking like a jerk how about I pull your pants down and smack your ass until you cry?

Just what part of physical abuse of your child do you find to be "for their own good"? Truth is you wouldn't dare pull a stunt like that on a grown adult - let alone try to confront someone like me with an open hand. Would you spank your child in public or do you prefer to wait until nobody could see you because you know that either you'd get your ass kicked or arrested for beating on a small child?

If it makes you feel better to take your anger out on a small child, then you probably don't deserve to have children in the first place.

Freesteyelz 02-01-2008 09:32 AM

Generally the rule is that if you spank immediately you tell the child why. Spanking should also occur soon after an inappropriate action has taken place. If not for both accounts, they associate spanking with anger and violence and not a form of learning.

I won't tell a parent one way another unless they are abusing their child in the standards of the law. I have to follow it strictly since part of what I do is training parents on handling difficult behaviors. While I specialize in autism you name the behavior I've more likely dealt with it...And felt it many a time. I also apply law to ensure that whoever's on the team understands what is involved and what the consequences will be if they do not adhere to it.

Still, while I agree with MPDev I will question parents who have no control over their own. It concerns me to see parents given in to child tantrums or give them so much freedom that boundaries are nonexistent. There are many who truly care and want to learn better ways to discipline their children but for those who neglect shouldn't have children in the first place.

MPDev 02-01-2008 11:47 AM

That's what it comes down to, doesn't it? The motivation for the "correction" and the degree of application. I'm not saying that there isn't a time and place to "correct" a child; as I said, I have 5 and I would be lying if I said I never used a spank (or swat) as a method of getting their attention. But what concerns me as a parent is the impact of repeated spankings, especially as a child gets older - or when people get to where they strike out at a child when another form of correction would have worked just as well. Or a parent who strikes a child in anger and not as a form of correction but then labels it a "spanking".

There is a fine line between correcting a child and abusing them.

Lawmakers

SwollenCranium 02-01-2008 02:10 PM

I've been a proponent of mandatory sterilization for years.

What we truly need is an entire generation skipped to both reduce the surface population as well as stop the evolution of stupidity.

I say a good 30 years with no births allowed world wide would fix this problem.

Hooray for me !

Freesteyelz 02-01-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDev (Post 1433904)
That's what it comes down to, doesn't it? The motivation for the "correction" and the degree of application. I'm not saying that there isn't a time and place to "correct" a child; as I said, I have 5 and I would be lying if I said I never used a spank (or swat) as a method of getting their attention. But what concerns me as a parent is the impact of repeated spankings, especially as a child gets older - or when people get to where they strike out at a child when another form of correction would have worked just as well. Or a parent who strikes a child in anger and not as a form of correction but then labels it a "spanking".

There is a fine line between correcting a child and abusing them.

Lawmakers


I agree. I share your same concerns. Spanking should never be the primary (repeated) action of discipline. It is important for the child to understand what is being communicated to them when being disciplined. There are many effective alternatives to spanking that are scientifically proven. I've experienced 180 degree turnarounds when techniques are applied correctly. While there are consequences for every action, to discipline is an opportunity to teach.

SEOvB 02-02-2008 03:58 PM

Not only is there a lack of discipline in todays kids, but I'd never talk like that in front of my parents not out of fear of getting beat, but out of sheer RESPECT which seems to be lost in todays youth as well

iogames 02-02-2008 07:14 PM

Yes, there's bad parents, [not mine] really vicious, but like on any social group, is less than 10%...
Like Genius, Disable, Blind, etc...

Michael Biddle 02-02-2008 09:03 PM

You go to the stores today, kids are running around screaming with there parents just ignoring it. I think back to what would have happened if that would have been me and my mom.

Answer?

My mom would have beat my a$$ so hard in front of everyone in that store. I would do that to my kid to though. I find it pathetic that people think that parents do not have the right to hit their kids. They will learn how to behave in public if you do so ;)


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