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Paul M 07-04-2007 07:48 PM

Jelsoft Acquired
 
As posted on vbulletin.com today ;


Quote:

Dear vBulletin customers,

We are pleased to announce that Jelsoft Enterprises Limited has been acquired by Internet Brands, Inc., a leading provider of automotive, travel and home-related sites and communities.

As part of a larger organisation, with more than 500 employees, Jelsoft has access to additional resources, support and business expertise which will ensure that we can continue to grow and flourish. Products will continue to be actively developed and fully supported, and as time goes on you will begin to see noticeable changes and improvements that are made possible by being part of a larger organisation.

Internet Brands' intention is to focus on improving what we are doing at the moment, and that means significant investment in our software development, customer service and sales and marketing processes. Internet Brands is willing, able and ready to invest heavily in Jelsoft, not only to continue to offer the same great products to our existing market, but also to empower us to enter new markets and find new audiences for our products and services.

The day-to-day management of Jelsoft will continue largely unchanged. I will continue as Managing Director and CEO of Jelsoft, working alongside the executive team at Internet Brands. John Percival, co-founder of vBulletin, will be taking this opportunity to pursue other interests, and I?m sure you will join me in wishing him well and every success in the future.

I'm really excited about this news, and feel strongly that it was a great decision for the company and our customers. Jelsoft has achieved significant success over the last few years, and before we officially move into this new era, I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to all customers who have supported Jelsoft and vBulletin - It is your continuous support and loyalty that has enabled vBulletin to become a market leader in community solutions. Rest assured that, with the help and resources of Internet Brands, we will continue to work hard to produce products that are innovative, feature-rich and forward-looking.

Again, thank you.

All the best,

James Limm, and the Jelsoft team

cyberphr 07-04-2007 07:58 PM

Boo!

EnIgMa1234 07-04-2007 08:00 PM

This could be a good thing
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
As part of a larger organisation, with more than 500 employees, Jelsoft has access to additional resources, support and business expertise


blazingpc 07-04-2007 08:06 PM

I'm seeing price hikes in the near future.

Larger companies\corporations like to see LARGER profit margins and at the same time cut corners.

Princeton 07-04-2007 08:06 PM

Exciting news .. this is a great day for the vBulletin community.

A large influx of money is always a good thing .. watch for some great things to happen.

beduino 07-04-2007 08:14 PM

really, i don't understand, the profile of the company is travel and cars :) ... but maybe a good thing.

Quote:

Internet Brands, Inc. Company Profile Internet Brands (formerly CarsDirect.com) takes shopping from research to retail with a few clicks of a mouse. The company helps customers research and purchase, online or at an actual location, big ticket items, such as cars, real estate, mortgages, and travel. Its sites include those for automobiles (CarsDirect.com, Autos.com), homes and mortgages (LoanApp.com), and vacation rental properties (Vamoose.com, VacationHomes.com). The company offers financing and mortgages through various banks. More than 3,000 local car dealers have joined its nationwide network and it has alliances with United Auto Group and Penske Automotive Group. Internet Brands, a part of e-commerce incubator idealab, was founded in 1998.

Contact Information
Address: 909 N. Sepulveda Blvd., 11th Fl.
El Segundo, CA 90245 Phone:310-280-4000Fax:310-280-4868
Financial Highlights
Fiscal Year End:December
Key People Chairman: Howard L. Morgan President, CEO, and Director: Robert N. (Bob) Brisco COO: Christine Bucklin
all the best
beduino

Quozty 07-04-2007 08:31 PM

thats as crazy as ebay buying stumbleupo.....wait...forget that :P

ERuiz 07-04-2007 08:38 PM

Hmmmm Let's see how things turn out. I really don't know what has been going on and don't certainly want to speculate, but I find it kind of odd that one of the co-founders of VBulletin decided to seek other "interests" right at the time when this acquisition takes place.

Oh well, I could just be trying to see beyond what is being portrayed to the public. Let's just hope things work out and we don't see a price hike in the near future.

Eric 07-04-2007 08:54 PM

wtf!!

That's all I have to say. :p

ShawnV 07-04-2007 09:18 PM

Death of another great product by the corporate engine of greed.

_V

goblues 07-04-2007 09:41 PM

Too early to tell, but will keep one eye open at all times. :)

LEAD_WEIGHT 07-04-2007 10:11 PM

Meh! I would of done the same thing. That is the point, is to make something so appealing that someone will buy it. It is not like it was a family business, that would be harder to let go.

Brandon Sheley 07-04-2007 10:27 PM

I don't see why a price hike would come of this ?

Shazz 07-04-2007 10:37 PM

Expanding!
/me watches jelsoft buildings go up

LEAD_WEIGHT 07-04-2007 10:59 PM

If they increase software price, then more people tend to be stand offish or seek other bulletin board scripts. I hope they do not dump simple addons on us, but it should make it easier for member(s) here to actually be part of Staff and on the other hand of that, you might not see any lite(free) addons if full is available for purchase.

This will be a good thing for talented coder(s) of other countries to get reconized, hopefully.

sola 07-04-2007 11:04 PM

Good luck to you guys. Just don't destroy VB. Above all, don't tamper with the immense trust placed in it by a vast customer base. VB has goodwill, so much that it is unquantifiable in monetary terms. It took years of dedicated attention to the customer's point of view to build this up. Don't destroy it pls.

COBRAws 07-04-2007 11:19 PM

lets see... I have my doubts about this. But as someone said, its too early to say!

Now lets wait we get new scripts, additions, etc.

make an official SEO plugin for vBulletin, also keep on the development of vb blogs, etc.

Add the most popular MODS to the next vBulletin release.

jam583 07-04-2007 11:22 PM

We are going to see an increase in price, not right away, but it will come. If anything, on paper, they need to show a positive increase in revenue over the next 12 months to make it appear as though it was a good purchase. They will increase the value of VB on paper, make the portfolio they have even better, and it will make IB a more valuable company. What better way to quickly do this than a price hike.

They bought VB out for a lot of reasons. Clearly, it's to make the footprint IB has even larger. Not only do they run some large sites (many of which use VB) they also now "Power" thousands of other sites. They will easily be able to purchase some of these large VB sites that are privately ran and this will come in the future.

Part of me is excited that we have the backing of IB. They have done some amazing things but the other half of me says "OH NO!". Clearly, they have some amazing talent on the development team for IB now. I would assume some of this talent would go to work on projects they currently have or websites they currently run. In doing so I can only hope focus isn't lost on VB.

Time will only tell!

LEAD_WEIGHT 07-04-2007 11:43 PM

I see no real reason to increase the price for main script, it will not make any bussiness since. Addons are what make money and it is seen in every product.

i.e.: xBox with main core and addons
i.e. PS3 main {over priced release} = low sales

i.e. Microsoft Vista: several versions and bloated with useless spftware - They should of had Core and add what you want. That is what makes money everytime.

69lakalle 07-04-2007 11:55 PM

OMG :confused::eek:

Roms 07-05-2007 01:26 AM

(I posted this on vB.com)
Quote:

Originally Posted by James
Onto the subject of product pricing. Since the first release of vBulletin 1.0 in 2000, we have never raised the price of vBulletin licenses. The key strategy moving forward is not to shift prices markedly upwards and make buying vBulletin an unattractive proposition, but rather to offer a broader range of products and services to better cater for all audiences. We are in business to serve our customers, and we will continue to do just that in order to remain competitive.

Thank you, that was one of my main concerns....

Here is a bit more info for those who don't know:

Quote:

Los Angeles-based CarsDirect yesterday said that it has changed its name to Internet Brands, as the company has started expanding its services into other, non-automotive related areas. The company said that the name change reflects the company’s aggressive expansion into other big ticket areas sucha s home mortgage lending. The new name will serve as a banner over the company's CarsDirect.com, Autos.com, Autodata Solutions, LoanStore.com, BestRate.com, and LoanApp.com web sites. CarsDirect started its foray into other consumer areas in early 2004.
posted on Friday, June 17, 2005

iogames 07-05-2007 02:25 AM

They could have waited for me to get rich and buy it, and keep a free community for all of us...
those are my legitimate worries: Free & Quality :D

Seriously, I own a Corporation called FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, Inc, a little bit of time and that would have been perfect... but I can't think of another thing, that as in business they have to raise the prices in order to recover their investment...

karlm 07-05-2007 03:28 AM

I've worked with large companies before... they tend to not be so concerned with customers... but they sure know how to make customers believe otherwise :(

Luky 07-05-2007 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnV (Post 1282958)
Death of another great product by the corporate engine of greed.

_V

Agree.

Can we atleast see a dollar sign?

This is when buisnesses screw up. They start to put money before ideas, and most importantly, their customers.

elmati 07-05-2007 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luky (Post 1283152)
Agree.

Can we atleast see a dollar sign?

This is when buisnesses screw up. They start to put money before ideas, and most importantly, their customers.

i agree...

SEOvB 07-05-2007 04:17 AM

All good things must come to a end.

Show me one or two examples of something good being bought out by a larger coperation, and then remaining good.

The thing that is odd here, is not that Jelsoft has been bought out, but the fact that a company which has ZERO experience, or what it seems business on the internet software(ie forums) side of things bought them. This is going to lead confusion, hysteria, and global warming for sure.

And if vBulletin no longer exists in its current form in 2 years, i wouldn't be surprised.

Dismounted 07-05-2007 04:25 AM

Only time will tell what happens to this great piece of software....

GrendelKhan{TSU 07-05-2007 04:55 AM

Congrats!!

I hope very PERSONAL support continues and that resources and time aren't just sucked into the blackhole of "corporate restructing" etc.

hopefully and ideally... it will lead to faster and more robust updates and product and evn more timely customer support. hopefully. :)

time will tell...but for now..
CONGRATULATION and best to all of vbTeam!! (how many of you are vested? lol ;):p)

Sean James 07-05-2007 05:11 AM

Time will tell, hope all goes well

Wayne Luke 07-05-2007 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1283168)
Show me one or two examples of something good being bought out by a larger coperation, and then remaining good.

Microsoft investing hundreds of millions into Apple Computer Inc. in the mid-90s to prevent the company from going into bankruptcy and closing.

Apple buying out the creative inventor of the iPod and selling it to the masses. Without the Apple buyout, you probably wouldn't even have an iPod today.

Google purchasing Blogger and Youtube. Both services have expanded and provide more options to users now.

Hewlett Packard's purchase of Compaq computers which increased the features available on their computers and the quality while lowering prices for consumers across the board.

Disney Studios purchase of ABC to provide a wider range of offerings to customers around the world.

Adelphia's buyout by Time Warner which brought lower prices and more selection to millions of customers.

SEOvB 07-05-2007 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1283221)
Microsoft investing hundreds of millions into Apple Computer Inc. in the mid-90s to prevent the company from going into bankruptcy and closing.

Apple buying out the creative inventor of the iPod and selling it to the masses. Without the Apple buyout, you probably wouldn't even have an iPod today.

Google purchasing Blogger and Youtube. Both services have expanded and provide more options to users now.

Hewlett Packard's purchase of Compaq computers which increased the features available on their computers and the quality while lowering prices for consumers across the board.

Disney Studios purchase of ABC to provide a wider range of offerings to customers around the world.

Adelphia's buyout by Time Warner which brought lower prices and more selection to millions of customers.


You win.

PixelFx 07-05-2007 06:15 AM

*cringes* I hope tis works out, although wondering how this will effect those of us with commercial hacks for vbulletin.

LEAD_WEIGHT 07-05-2007 06:16 AM

I did not know that Microsoft did that? I thought it was cause Steve Jobs leaving and creating his own computer company and 'NeXT' the computer that was suppose to bring down Apple. I still have a dozen Black 21in monitors and they still work till this day.

I just had to change the power cord and place an vga adapter to work on P.C. computers.

Capt. GannA 07-05-2007 06:25 AM

Not cool :/

Luky 07-05-2007 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1283221)
Microsoft investing hundreds of millions into Apple Computer Inc. in the mid-90s to prevent the company from going into bankruptcy and closing.

Apple buying out the creative inventor of the iPod and selling it to the masses. Without the Apple buyout, you probably wouldn't even have an iPod today.

Google purchasing Blogger and Youtube. Both services have expanded and provide more options to users now.

Hewlett Packard's purchase of Compaq computers which increased the features available on their computers and the quality while lowering prices for consumers across the board.

Disney Studios purchase of ABC to provide a wider range of offerings to customers around the world.

Adelphia's buyout by Time Warner which brought lower prices and more selection to millions of customers.

1. Microsoft gave apple money, they didnt buy apple. Thus making that statement an incorrect answer to his question.

2. iPods are crap, they are made to cheaply, screen scratches, batteries die after 2-3 years and its impossible to get some good support.

3. Blogger is for noobs, as is a free forum host. Most people these days that want quality, no adds forced apon them and the customisation they want themself will purchase and host professionally. Also with their YouTube, i pefered the old layout much better then the new beta layout for the viewing of videos and the search results. Also Youtube are deleting alot of videos that should be deleted, for example videos against religion. How is that fair for people to say how good religion is but we are not allowed to say the bad things about it.

4. HP are very cheap, only a few hundred dollars for an extremly low spec machine. You can even buy them at Target. You are mad to purchase one.

5. ABC is nothing but documentary's, cooking and kid shows, i goto school for that crap.

6. I dont even know what Adelphia is.

The morral is, we use a product and a company because we like the product and the company, the way it is. We donot throw our money at you to make large changes as this. And dont say its not large, because it is. vBulletin is worth over hundreds of thousands, if not more, with the money you guys pull in.

SuperTaz 07-05-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazingpc (Post 1282897)
I'm seeing price hikes in the near future.

Larger companies\corporations like to see LARGER profit margins and at the same time cut corners.


I agree. When one company takes another company over, they tend to be greedy and have prices skyrocket through the roof. If that is the case, then I might not renew my license. We'll see what happens.

bikers 07-05-2007 07:53 AM

I bought 3 IPB licenses for my forums because of this. Just incase.

Luky 07-05-2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikers (Post 1283275)
I bought 3 IPB licenses for my forums because of this. Just incase.

Wtf? Are you a mad man? Thats friggen crazy! You just spent almost 300$ on something your not even certain on!?!?!

LEAD_WEIGHT 07-05-2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luky (Post 1283298)
Wtf? Are you a mad man? Thats friggen crazy! You just spent almost 300$ on something your not even certain on!?!?!

He post this same over at vBulletin.com :)

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showp...&postcount=134


I am glad the owner got his baby bought, as this is what most creators of anything on the net would love to have. He probable wish Microsoft & Google would of been in a bidding war over his script.

Snake 07-05-2007 10:20 AM

Gee, I wish if I live in the UK where I could work for Jelsoft and make it to the top. =[


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