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MP3 03-08-2007 04:50 PM

Mr. eXtremeTim, where are U?
 
Please, can anybody send to me PM about where is Mr. Tim?

Regards

FleaBag 03-09-2007 07:54 PM

Gone with the wind no doubt!

Brandon Sheley 06-03-2007 08:49 PM

why hasn't this guy been banned ??

mp3 posted that this tim didn't do the job
now soletrader got ripped off too

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=148544

I know I've seen threads about this Tim b4 not doing the job and taking the money

Why does vb.org let this user steal money ??

Shelley_c 06-03-2007 09:08 PM

Is this the same guy in this Thread? If so, this guy has been scamming people since last year (probably longer).

SCRIPT3R 06-03-2007 09:18 PM

Scammerville, USA, population Tim.

Romeos Tune 06-03-2007 10:49 PM

Same guy. Yep. I can't believe people keep letting him do this. Sad. Isn't it a federal offense to steal money across state lines? Everyone ripped off needs to get together and get him some jail time or at least probation. They will more than likely also take all of his computer equipment and he won't be allowed to own any if convicted.

hambil 06-04-2007 02:14 AM

They won't do anything. They'll just delete this thread and continue to put their fingers in their ears and go 'LALALALALA'.

Someday Jelsoft will get sued, then maybe they'll care.

nexialys 06-04-2007 02:51 AM

so the only way nobody get hurt anymore, is... closing the "Request for Paid Services"...

someone with the guts to open a open directory of coders ?!... with some coder ranking "à la eBay" ?!

acerulezz 06-04-2007 03:56 AM

A year back he did this to me(thread above) and even though i tried everything i never got back my money.
My only advice to people who have given him work is to make sure not to let the 45day paypal deadline to pass. Tim will sweet talk you a lot to ensure that the 45 days pass so that paypal claims can't be filed.

As far as vb.org goes, i wrote to the admins then and nothing was done about it. After all the position is that its our problem. I am fine with that but i am not fine with the fact that the same guy is allowed to continue to rip newer people off even when there have been instances of his doing so in the past. You can only see the kind of excuses he gave to me(i have posted them in the thread in my sig). Doing nothing about it and putting it squarely on the vbulletin owners is not a answer to anything.

sonichero 06-04-2007 04:36 AM

to give credit to the man his mods happen to be some of the best around. Otherwise, from what ive seen, he isnt the greatest guy.

hambil 06-04-2007 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonichero (Post 1260798)
to give credit to the man his mods happen to be some of the best around. Otherwise, from what ive seen, he isnt the greatest guy.

Some of his mods used to be mind. I offered to give them to someone else because I didn't want to keep then updated. So, don't be so sure on that score. I can't speak for all his mods, just the ones I know came from me - before I realized there where issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Distance (Post 1260822)
Bah. Its time vB.org started doing something about this!

All we can do is keep posting when people get abused. They will eventually ban the abusers, or ban us I suppose.

nexialys 06-04-2007 07:48 AM

... hambil, the point is that even if you complain a lot.. you are not the one who've been scammed lately.. you are just reporting the situation, so your opinion is biased..

it would be the same if someone wants your head because you are a great coder... he would complain that you are a crap, and do you think it would be fair if the admins ban you ?!... not really.

the only thing is that vB.org is not the place for dealing with commercial services, because they are not the one to manage these services...

the only solution is to use the more protected places to do the searches... sitepoint.com is a good place, and other freelancers services where clients can rate coders is good too.

hambil 06-04-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1260896)
... hambil, the point is that even if you complain a lot.. you are not the one who've been scammed lately.. you are just reporting the situation, so your opinion is biased..

Actually, that's not completely accurate. I'm responding to threads started by the person scammed. And I'm responding to the fact that we have repeated threads from the people being scammed and those threads are at best ignored, at worst actively deleted, which in my mind is a complacency by vbulletin.org.

They make no effort to stop the scammers, and actually hinder the community when it tries to stop them and warn others on its own. How do you think these 'coders' are able to repeatedly scam people?

We all know how to stop this, and it's not difficult. So we can only assume that vBulletin.org and Jelsoft not taking those actions, and in fact covering up evidence of scammers, means they support the actions of these scammers.

I wouldn't be so forceful in my wording, if this was a new problem. But it's been an ongoing problem for a long time, and I don't know what else to do other than be frank and brutally honest about it.

Snake 06-04-2007 11:46 AM

LMAO @ THIS! Well, there's nothing much to say about Tim. He even tried to get away with my money as well. I paid him like over $140 just to get some damn vBulletin chat system (which is vBChat in my sig) and just vanished all of a sudden, but hey, I got a hold of him finally. How, do you ask? Simple answer. I was smart enough for him. That's how.

nexialys 06-04-2007 11:56 AM

quite right, you were smart enough, maybe, but you paid for a release that was coming anyway... i kinda think he was smarter here... he was paid to upgrade his script he was doing for free...

kobescoresagain 06-04-2007 06:16 PM

He got me also. I reported him to the staff on this site and nothing was done at all. I guess that is something that isn't cared about on this site.

nexialys 06-04-2007 06:45 PM

funny thing btw, the thread is not closed yet, and no admin have commented seriously...

/me will hide and seek for the reasons...

hambil 06-04-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1261207)
funny thing btw, the thread is not closed yet, and no admin have commented seriously...

[high]* nexialys will hide and seek for the reasons...[/high]

Yeah, it's survived longer than most like it. I'm not going to read too much into it, yet. :)

harmor19 06-04-2007 06:53 PM

We can uninstall all hacks from Tim so he'll be demoted to hopefully a level 2 coder.
Maybe if his release level was down he wouldn't steal money.

Brad 06-04-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1261207)
funny thing btw, the thread is not closed yet, and no admin have commented seriously...

[high]* Brad will hide and seek for the reasons...

[/high]
Would you like a longer stick?

Poke the beast long enough and you'll get the teeth.

As far as Tim is concerned surely one of your have his personal information by now? We do have this thing called the legal system you know.

Shelley_c 06-04-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1261207)
funny thing btw, the thread is not closed yet, and no admin have commented seriously...

[high]* nexialys will hide and seek for the reasons...[/high]

If you happen to look into the first post in this thread you'll see a nice edited note by Paul_M. This alone shows that staff are turning a blind eye to the scamming which starts here and directly affects members from here.


Maybe when jelsoft eventually are accountable for the scamming here there will be a backlog of people sueing and rightly so. :/

edit: why it's brad. Hello brad.

Brad 06-04-2007 07:24 PM

Look I have no desire to get in a flame war over this but hell here it goes;

I have never understood why you people end up giving your hard earned money away to people that steal it (I'm not saying Tim is a thief because I have no proof..but read on). I also fail to understand why the lot of you don't band together and seek legal action when it happens to multiple people.

I don't know about the rest of you but when another man steals from me I make it right one way or the other. Sometimes the law handles it, sometimes I handle it myself, but one way or the other I see my money or something of equal value...and I've never had a problem figuring out how to go about doing that.

You all want Jelsoft to be a middle man in your business and you claim "they don't care about us!" and "they'll get sued over this!" every time someone gets ripped off. Don't you understand that the second Jelsoft becomes the middle man they also become libel if money gets stolen?

Further more many of you just love to point fingers at whomever is on staff. Every time they make a move a mob comes a long and tells them how wrong that move was. I understand customer feedback but c'mon? Do you honestly think you could do any better? Do you honestly think a bunch of guys and girls that put in hours of their day..everyday for nothing in return are really such an evil bunch?

You know I could probably be in contact with Tim on the phone within a half hour if I really needed to talk to him. I've known the boy forever (before there was such a thing as vBulletin as a matter of fact) and I'll admit I was not his biggest fan back then and I'm not his biggest fan right now. But if he'd wrong me like certain people claim he's wronged them...well getting my money back wouldn't be much of an issue!

In this life you have to take care of yourself. No one wants to be your baby sitter.

nexialys 06-04-2007 07:49 PM

That's what i said Brad... you're fully in the same path of opinion that i have...

if people are not happy with non-commercial services support here, they just have to start their own service and protect their own clients...

that's what i've done...

2 months ago i re-opened my commercial website, and my clients need to pay their membership to access any service on the site; downloads, support tickets, etc... if you are not able to pay a minimal fee, you are not to require protection when something goes wrong. all my transactions are paid at the end of the process because i secured my clients - i know they are refered paying clients... the other side, their own protection... my reputation on the net AND on paypal... i even refund people when i'm not myself satisfied with the client... i hate people complaining all the time.

i may be the best devil's advocate here... i was from the start of the project and was on many more projects before, and like on the startup of PostNuke, when i decided to have enough of the troubles, i can decide here too that i'm not taking advantage of the service anymore and do my things on my side. i'm not happy with the lack of commercial endeavour of vB sites... they have their way of doing things, and i don't complain on it anymore... i prefered to go on my own. and i'm now very happy!

do the same guys...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 1261223)
Would you like a longer stick?

cool, a stick... pogo on it please... i'm really hungry !!!

Dream 06-04-2007 08:11 PM

All this is news to me.

sonichero 06-04-2007 11:11 PM

Lets get some cold hard proof. Install "Read PMs", located directly above, search for his name and find the people he's scammed.

nexialys 06-04-2007 11:35 PM

@soni... i think the guys up there know where they are going... not sure your suggestion will go anywhere...

sonichero 06-04-2007 11:39 PM

I know. Such a sad subject though, people being scammed out of money.

Dont people have some decency?

I do hope this guy gets it stuck to him.... one day...

hambil 06-04-2007 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 1261241)
You all want Jelsoft to be a middle man in your business and you claim "they don't care about us!" and "they'll get sued over this!" every time someone gets ripped off. Don't you understand that the second Jelsoft becomes the middle man they also become libel if money gets stolen?

They're already the middle man. They provide a place for clients and contractors to meet, and they manage the process of client and contractor feedback. They're just a very bad middleman.

Quote:

In this life you have to take care of yourself. No one wants to be your baby sitter.
I wouldn't say asking that a board discipline in some way a member who has broken the law, is being a complainer. It's almost interesting how taking action that involves any effort on this boards staff, or Jelsoft, doesn't fit your criteria for doing something about being ripped off. Wouldn't it be great if when I called the police they said "We're not baby sittes." Or if when asked for a refund from paypal they said "We're not baby sitters."

Life sure would be better for those who are there to help us, if they simply didn't.

It's not like we're asking for vbulletin.org to provide escrow services, or something ridiculous like that. We're asking for a feedback system we've already been told was being considered at one point - read here.

So, a simple 'yes we've decided to go forward with that and will announce more as we get closer', would go a long ways.

no mods 06-05-2007 12:07 AM

I can understand why Jelsoft doesnt want to be the middle man, because if the deal goes wrong on either end it all downfalls to you "the middle man". I have personly had a few cases like this happen to me and it sucks. Cause it not your fualt but some how its still your problem. Thats why from now on whenever I do some buisness I do it directly with the client no matter what it is.

kobescoresagain 06-05-2007 12:40 PM

I guess this is what will happen.

Tim will get to scam more people on this site, seeing he isn't from my nation I will have little to no recourse against him and thus am out my money.

Why doesn't vbulletin just install a Feedback hack, at least you will have some idea of who in this community is trustworthy and who isn't.

nexialys 06-05-2007 01:57 PM

hum, some posts deleted... tsss...

please close the thread then.

eXtremeTim 06-05-2007 02:51 PM

Nobody has been ripped off. If people would follow the details i provided on my site they would realize i have been away from my computer for the last 2 weeks due to personal and computer problems.

Soletrader will get his refund as was promised.

SEOvB 06-05-2007 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim (Post 1261788)
Nobody has been ripped off. If people would follow the details i provided on my site they would realize i have been away from my computer for the last 2 weeks due to personal and computer problems.

Soletrader will get his refund as was promised.


That excuse got old along time ago...

Regs 06-05-2007 06:37 PM

Sounds like Dave Daoust AKA Rejuvinet :rolleyes:

MRGTB 06-05-2007 11:57 PM

I think this is a total joke, the staff are well aware of this guys tatics on this site regarding scamming people. And I can't believe they have not banned his ass well before now.

Shazz 06-06-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRGTB (Post 1262164)
I think this is a total joke, the staff are well aware of this guys tatics on this site regarding scamming people. And I can't believe they have not banned his ass well before now.

No one is banned for a reason such as a service request.

acerulezz 06-06-2007 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXtremeTim
Nobody has been ripped off. If people would follow the details i provided on my site they would realize i have been away from my computer for the last 2 weeks due to personal and computer problems.

Soletrader will get his refund as was promised.

aha,,
so you have been shifting around for a year or what? So that means i should expect my $$$ back from you now that you have publicly posted here.(1 year is a long time to sort your personal issues)
I will wait for the refund. :)

Shazz 06-06-2007 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acerulezz (Post 1262177)
aha,,
so you have been shifting around for a year or what? So that means i should expect my $$$ back from you now that you have publicly posted here.(1 year is a long time to sort your personal issues)
I will wait for the refund. :)

For someone that only has 2 posts and those 2 posts were in the service request forum. And only comming back to vB.org for one reason which is extremetim, with a service request more then a year old. Thats impressive

acerulezz 06-06-2007 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1262178)
For someone that only has 2 posts and those 2 posts were in the service request forum. And only comming back to vB.org for one reason which is extremetim, with a service request more then a year old. Thats impressive

thank you :)
I hope you don't have a problem with that though? :)

Quote:

And only comming back to vB.org for one reason which is extremetim
And your generalization is not correct.

Shazz 06-06-2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acerulezz (Post 1262181)
thank you :)
I hope you don't have a problem with that though? :)


And your generalization is not correct.

It was a quick type and thought when I made the post
I ment posting not comming back ehh :o


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