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MaryTheG(r)eek 01-27-2007 10:00 PM

vbPhotoVote by Mary
 
Removed by the Author
till the time that People like Bubble #5
understand what means respection to honesty,
respection to the time that someone spent
for giving them something for free.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-28-2007 06:49 AM

Hello Friends,

Reading posts from my other mods, I want to make clear something very important. Yes, this module (as all the others) is supporting. But only in my site and only in the forum bellow:

http://www.madebymary.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=32

Why? The reason is simple. Actually it's a simple calculation. Till now I've post 4 mods, plus 2 that I'll post next week is a total of 6 mods. I'm posting my mods in 4 different sites, plus in my site is a total of 5 sites. A simple calculation gives a result of 30 different forums. If you add PMs in these 5 sites the total grows up to 35 places. Sorry, but:
  • Being in my 51st year of my age, I don't have the courage to move in so many different places
  • It's frustating to reply 5 times in the same questions. Believe me, the same question that you ask here, someone else asks in another site

So, I'll appreciate your understanding and follow the link above for support. For those few members, who don't like to move their ass, the only that I can say, is an old Greek saying. "When, in the old years, it was difficult for men to find women for one night stand, some of them, not only wanted to find a woman right now, but they wanted her to have "it" shaved". No more comments.

Cheers
Maria

Robru 01-28-2007 07:07 AM

No files uploaded :)

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-28-2007 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robru (Post 1168808)
No files uploaded :)

My God !! I still haven't finished my post :(

Robru 01-28-2007 07:21 AM

Hahahaha ;)

boxingscene 01-28-2007 09:10 AM

Love her scripts, but I hate that they are not SEO friendly. Every photo page has the site name in the header, instead of the photo name. Noticed that same thing with the articles mod.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-28-2007 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxingscene (Post 1168865)
Love her scripts, but I hate that they are not SEO friendly. Every photo page has the site name in the header, instead of the photo name. Noticed that same thing with the articles mod.

I'm developing modules having in mind hobbist communities and not business communities. If you check my site too, I haven't add any meta there. Still using the defaults of vBulletin.

JermaineBelgard 01-28-2007 09:25 AM

Hello,

nice add-on! Is it possible to change the locations? I have no use for US federal states, I'd rather need the german ones.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-28-2007 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JermaineBelgard (Post 1168872)
Hello,

nice add-on! Is it possible to change the locations? I have no use for US federal states, I'd rather need the german ones.

Location is a multi purposes field. You can use it as you want not only for locations. Like a pseudo-subcategory. You can modify the values editing the file:
vbphotovote/includes/vbphotovote_locations.inc.php

If you use it for other than location then edit the word "Location" in phrasegroup vbphotovote.

JermaineBelgard 01-28-2007 09:30 AM

Thank you. :)

Veer 01-28-2007 11:31 AM

Very Nice Module :)

wizardan 01-28-2007 01:03 PM

Installed.
Flawless:)

Robru 01-28-2007 02:32 PM

How to set, users can vote ones ...

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-28-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robru (Post 1169026)
How to set, users can vote ones ...

All users can vote just once.

amnesia623 01-28-2007 02:50 PM

Just FYI---

I submitted a support ticket on a paid script at maria's site and I received a response in about 30 minutes.

Thanks

Exitilus 01-28-2007 07:40 PM

Is there any problem if I use VBSEO to re-write the links? It won't affect any of your coding :)

Exitilus 01-28-2007 07:55 PM

Also I noticed there isn't any blank index.html files for each folder. This could be a security issue as people can go poking through those directories with full read / write access.

Found something else. For the vbphotovote_myphotos template there is no end tag for <font>

At the same time .. when I view it. The Font (only when viewing My Photos) for the categories gets huge O.o

Milad 01-28-2007 09:49 PM

Quote:

According to my country's laws, everybody who is offering something for Free (not only software, but anything) has the legal right to know:

So, according to this authorization that my laws gives to me, I've added a piece of code that monitors the installation sending me the following info:
You're in vb.org not in Athena.
And why do you need the webmaster email? by which law?

Lizard King 01-29-2007 01:35 AM

Quote:

This module has been developed by a Greek developer liable in the laws of Hellenic Republic (mostly known as Greece). According to my country's laws, everybody who is offering something for Free (not only software, but anything) has the legal right to know:

*
Where the software (in this case) is.
*
For what it is using

So, according to this authorization that my laws gives to me, I've added a piece of code that monitors the installation sending me the following info:

1.
Full installation URL
2.
Webmaster's email

In case that you don't agree with the above rule, please DON'T INSTALL vbPhotoVote!!
I just want to ask you a question before i critisize further. Why do you want to know these information ?

Rich 01-29-2007 02:25 AM

Hello,

I thought vb.org addressed this issue before. I was under the assumption that nothing was to be added in regards to tracking, etc. I personally would just remove it if I decided to check this out as I don't see why you need to know where this free mod is being used and what my email address is. (I can understand you want to try and make sure people aren't removing your copyright, but pulling info like this doesn't seem like the way to do it.)

Exitilus 01-29-2007 02:48 AM

Well I know some previous Hacks she released people removed the copyright without approval, as well as some started releasing it on other sites saying they made it.

Personally I have no problem with this.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1169320)
You're in vb.org not in Athena.
And why do you need the webmaster email? by which law?

vb.org is a UK site liable to UK and European's communities laws. The same laws applies there. Actually this is an international law. As for the Email in this case replaces the phone nbr.
Finally what's your problem? I'm placing the rules and you can accept or reject them. Commenting them has no sense. Have I pressed you to use it? No. Then keep your big mouth closed.

Maria

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard King (Post 1169449)
I just want to ask you a question before i critisize further. Why do you want to know these information ?

  1. For statistic reasons (it's the only way to know the actual installations).
  2. To see how many are honest out there, by not removing my copyright. This will help me to decide if I'll continue offering free modules or not.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1169468)
Hello,

I personally would just remove it if I decided to check this out.....)

If you remove it, it assumes that you use it illegaly, so please dont try something like this. Finally I was honest saying it straight while it was so easy to keep it secret and place the code in a place that nobody could understand where it is, by breaking it in multiple lines and variables.

Lizard King 01-29-2007 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1169515)
  1. For statistic reasons (it's the only way to know the actual installations).
  2. To see how many are honest out there, by not removing my copyright. This will help me to decide if I'll continue offering free modules or not.

I don't want to hijack your thread but i don't think that the way you follow is the correct route. As it is 100% sure that you don't trust anyone who wants to install this mod. So why shall people trust you and send you their personal information. vB.org is a special site. So if you release a modification here then you shall trust other people otherwise you can release your modifications at your site. If in past people removed your copyright information , i am really sorry for you but that people will remove the code which transmits the information to you so again you will face problems. I totally respect you to protect your work but i don't trust to a person who doesn't trust me without having any information about me. I will also report this modification and ask it to be removed from site.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard King (Post 1169520)
I don't want to hijack your thread but i don't think that the way you follow is the correct route. As it is 100% sure that you don't trust anyone who wants to install this mod. So why shall people trust you and send you their personal information. vB.org is a special site. So if you release a modification here then you shall trust other people otherwise you can release your modifications at your site. If in past people removed your copyright information , i am really sorry for you but that people will remove the code which transmits the information to you so again you will face problems. I totally respect you to protect your work but i don't trust to a person who doesn't trust me without having any information about me. I will also report this modification and ask it to be removed from site.

So, you don't respect that someone was honest with you informing about this "black hole"? Did you prefered to keep it secret and place in 50 different parts of the code un-understandable variables doing the same?

My dear, it's not only the copyright removal. That's the minimum. Next comes that some of them are publishing it as their own mod (usally in local country sites) and a few of them are selling it. There was also one (for vbMates) who was selling it and sent his clients for support in my site!!

My action is not illegal. Posting something for free in a community like vb.org is, is just a donation to this community. And as you, when you're doing a donation you've the right to know where you money went (be careful ...you've the right, not that you're obligue or responsible to know), the same exactly applies here.

It's like the guarantee that comes with any product wordwide. You can read them and then decide if you accept it or not. But you can't change it.

thanks for your understanding
Maria

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard King (Post 1169520)
I don't want to hijack your thread but i don't think that the way you follow is the correct route. As it is 100% sure that you don't trust anyone who wants to install this mod. So why shall people trust you and send you their personal information. vB.org is a special site. So if you release a modification here then you shall trust other people otherwise you can release your modifications at your site. If in past people removed your copyright information , i am really sorry for you but that people will remove the code which transmits the information to you so again you will face problems. I totally respect you to protect your work but i don't trust to a person who doesn't trust me without having any information about me. I will also report this modification and ask it to be removed from site.

And because I believe that this is a topic that needs a lot of discussion I want to ask you something very simple. In one of my other free mods (vbArticles) there are at this time 187 dowloads with 121 installations. Can you tell me what the rest 66 members who downloaded the product wanted to do with it if they didn't installed it? Because is diffecult to believe that they downloaded it just because they have free space in their HD.

Marco van Herwaarden 01-29-2007 06:31 AM

According to our rules it is not allowed to add hidden code.

With this modification the author clearly states that she is collecting information and what information she collects before you install his modification. This is not breaking our rules, and it is up to each member to decide if they want to use this or not.

JD45 01-29-2007 03:17 PM

Quote:

So, according to this authorization that my laws gives to me, I've added a piece of code that monitors the installation sending me the following info:

1.
Full installation URL
2.
Webmaster's email
Have you put this in your other mods or just this one?

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD45 (Post 1169851)
Have you put this in your other mods or just this one?

No, Just this one. You can check vbArticles too. As I wrote I'm using it for statistical reasons. I choosen vbPhotoVote because it's already a mature module with all known bugs fixed. So, it's the best way to see how the users reacts on something that is working well.

Also in a Donation module that I'll post tomorrow there is no such code.

Maria

b4ne 01-29-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1169534)
And because I believe that this is a topic that needs a lot of discussion I want to ask you something very simple. In one of my other free mods (vbArticles) there are at this time 187 dowloads with 121 installations. Can you tell me what the rest 66 members who downloaded the product wanted to do with it if they didn't installed it? Because is diffecult to believe that they downloaded it just because they have free space in their HD.


First, I don't know if this is your intention but you come accross as exremely aggressive.

I download sometimes a mod and forget to select Installed so that could explain your download/installed states.
I have to say I love your mod and I want to thank you for releasing it to the public for free, but even If I can understand why you want the information I still don't like the idea that you are getting all the information you are seeking.

Why don't you make a very very light version of this mod in the future and sell the other like you do now. The only reason I have not bought this so far is
a) I want to check it out first and see if my users are using it
b) I don't like the aspect of paying for something and not getting a download link + the fact that It's domain restricted.

Milad 01-29-2007 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1169512)
vb.org is a UK site liable to UK and European's communities laws. The same laws applies there. Actually this is an international law. As for the Email in this case replaces the phone nbr.
Finally what's your problem? I'm placing the rules and you can accept or reject them. Commenting them has no sense. Have I pressed you to use it? No. Then keep your big mouth closed.

Maria

Thank you Mary, I respect you and will continue respecting you, but please respect me and my opinion. I withdraw, thanks for your efforts.

Edit: also I support your rights.

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milad (Post 1169866)
Thank you Mary, I respect you and will continue respecting you, but please respect me and my opinion. I withdraw, thanks for your efforts.

Edit: also I support your rights.

As you understood I'm more big mouth than you :rolleyes:

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b4ne (Post 1169858)
Why don't you make a very very light version of this mod in the future and sell the other like you do now. The only reason I have not bought this so far is
a) I want to check it out first and see if my users are using it
b) I don't like the aspect of paying for something and not getting a download link + the fact that It's domain restricted.

Very-Very light version is just like teasing the users. I don't agree in this topic with you. I included nearly 80% of the features of the commercial version in this one

As for your (a) I totally agree. Imagine if I've gave you a very-very light version. Who should use it? Nobody.

For (b) I'm not sure that I understood your saying that's why I prefer not to answer. Do you mean why you don't have the right to use it on more than one domains?

Robru 01-29-2007 04:24 PM

Where can I see the other photo's, now I am seeing 4 of 10 photo's?
And where can I found the average score of all the photo's?

Thanks for your answers :)

MaryTheG(r)eek 01-29-2007 04:47 PM

Seems that many users have misunderstood my privacy notice, that's why I want to make clear some "what" and "why". First of all I want to say that reading the first negative posts I reported myself, asked the coordinators to decide if I'm breaking any rure or not. You seen their answer above. Now some Q & A:

Q1 - What information I'm collecting:
  • The installation URL and Webmaster's email (if there is on vboptions)
Q2 - Why I'm collecting this information:
  • To check the real amount of installations comparing with that one that appears here. And till now it's 100% succeed. 17 installations reported, 17 members pressed install (12 here and 5 at vbhackers)
  • I choosen vbPhotoVote because it's commercial version is in use 3 months now, it's already on it's 5th upgrade (ver.1.5.0) so let's say that is bug free, which means well working. I want to truck the percentage of donations for something that is working.
  • Having webmaster's email and URL, I can easily truck the percentage of sales for the commercial version from those who used the free version.
  • I want to truck the percentage of copyright removals;)
  • And finally to make a check after 6 months on the percentage of the sites that still use it
Q3 - All your modules will have this piece of code?
  • No, just this one and maybe another one next year same period for comparization.
Q4- This piece of code will follow vbPhotoVote for ever?
  • No. When I'll have 100 installations, which a big amount to get real results, I'll post an upgrade without this code.
Please don't let your mind dreaming for i don't know what.. I'm not spy or anything. I'm a hobbist computer programmer since 1984 (does anybody remember dBase II?). My primary job is Travel Agent, having my own office as you can see at:
http://www.gtp.gr/TDirectoryDetails.asp?ID=25374

Thanks for your time (and hope for your understanding)
Maria

b4ne 01-30-2007 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1169906)
...vboptions)[/SIZE][/LIST]Q2 - Why I'm collecting this information:[LIST][*][SIZE=2]To check the real amount of installations comparing with that one that appears here. And till now it's 100% succeed. 17 installations reported, 17 members pressed install
Maria

I forgot to press install, so your numbers cannot really ad up :)

Bubble #5 02-02-2007 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Microhellas
According to my country's laws, everybody who is offering something for Free (not only software, but anything) has the legal right to know

What is the full name of this law?

MaryTheG(r)eek 02-02-2007 05:32 AM

Marco van Herwaarden

According to our rules it is not allowed to add hidden code.

With this modification the author clearly states that she is collecting information and what information she collects before you install his modification. This is not breaking our rules, and it is up to each member to decide if they want to use this or not.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just read post #28 and then continue to next mod please.
Thanks

Bubble #5 02-02-2007 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1169574)
This is not breaking our rules

Actually that's not the issue. Frankly I am surprised that vb.org is distributing a hack that is clearly in violation of the Computer Software Privacy and Control Act, and possibly even the Internet Spyware (I-SPY) Prevention Act of 2005. We don't live in Greece so her laws (which she still hasn't told us the name of so we can check it out) is meaningless here in the U.S. Like other members here I feel that this is a matter of broken trust. Maybe on this site it matters if the code is hidden, but according to the law it doesn't matter if she tells anyone of not, because it's not supposed to be distruibuted in the U.S and is a violation under section 18(a) of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 57a(a)). I'm sorry, but I'm very disapointed in vb.org even allowing a hack like this on this wonderful site :(


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