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Logotype
[Changed] We all know what "vBulletin.org" is. What about "VBULLETIN MODS"? Could be any random vbulletin hacking site retrieved by entering "vbulletin mods" into google and then clicking on a link from the N'th result page with one's eyes closed.
Navbar
The new navbar reminds me of what can be seen on an overhacked entertainment site that is powered by vBulletin + vBArcade + ibProArcade + Flashchat + you name it, and that has more to place on the navbar than the latter can fit.

vBulletin.org is not an entertainment site. It is a site intended mostly for the purpose of publishing hacks, and the vast majority of the people who come here to download those hacks are new to vBulletin.

Considering that, let's take a look on the current configuration of the navbar:
1. On a standard vBulletin, which is most familiar to new users, User CP is clickable only once, and I think that's how it should be considering that User CP is the one page accessed most. On current setup, the item opens a dropdown filled with irrelevant and rarely accessed items. The two non-standard subitems, "my profile" and "installed hacks", have nothing to do with control panel. Suggestion: move the two items to "Quick Links", then revert User CP to a regular hyperlink.
2. On a standard vBulletin, search function is accessible via navbar links, and the right side of the navbar has a greeting on it. On current setup, not only has the search been moved away from the navbar links to where it does not belong, but it has been moved to where the greeting has been. I was thinking that something is wrong with the navbar aside from the search function, and I just realized it: the absence of the greeting makes the site look kind of hostile. Suggestion: move search function back to navbar dropdown together with the new "all/mods/articles/graphics" control and the new links. With the exception for "Today's Posts" - that should be moved as a dropdown item for "New Posts". As I was writing this, I noticed that the greeting is at the top on the black background - but it is not noticeable there.
The Tabs
Remind me of a virus-infected start menu on Windows 98. Every other part of the design is either pseudo-3d or has a gradient on it. The buttons are just plain, and they have an angular arrow that is alien to the design - either it has to be somewhere else too, or it has to be removed. Perhaps you should consider making different tab colors to signify current tab / highlighted tab.
The Sitemap
Good feature, but perhaps it should include links to the usercp, installed hacks, and any other important pages not yet included.
Meet Our Staff
Since there is now a separate page for it, perhaps there should be a policy of having same-sized avatars. Otherwise, the page looks very unprofessional.
Hacks, Articles, and Editor Interfaces
- The "seperate" typo is back from ashes.
- The "thread-2-pdf" button does not work.
- The fieldsets have the same background color as their container cell. Ugly.
- The mod information links move 1px to the left when hovered. Ugly. They should be static.
Miscellanous Observations
The tabs lose focus when you are within the tab but not on the page it points to.
[Changed] Why are usertitles in parenthesis? This makes people feel unimportant. Like, "meh, coder". Or "meh, designer". "who cares? so let's put it in parenthesis". :rolleyes:
Logotype is logotype of the whole site, not of its part, no matter how major. Therefore, it should point to the site's main page as is done on most sites.
The miscellanous blocks on the homepage should be on the right, since English is a left-to-right language. Main things should be on the left (looked at first).
The heading block is too stuffed up. Make it more spacious.
"About Us" and "Privacy Policy" should be accessible from "Quick Links" and from the footer.
The information on "About Us" does not match the administrators listing on "Meet Out Staff".
Since you now have QA in the article section, please delete all the bullshit articles that are posted there. When one wants to find a truly useful article, it's almost impossible to do so because 80% of the articles are junk.
RSS Syndication in the Information Section is not very useful - I don't think anyone would need to syndicate the whole forum, which is what that information section syndication button is linked to.
FAQ is not accessible from Information Section.
"Are you showing up as unlicensed" is in the bottom link body but not anywhere else (in the navbar or in the info section).
Since there are so many information spots, perhaps the links should not be duplicated three or four times as some links are. Perhaps, do the following:
- Remove the bottom block with links.
- Place "about us", "privacy policy", and "help" in the footer link row.
- Make "Help" in the navbar a link pointed to the information section. People will go on from there.

Thank you, I agree with all of the above statements.

I would also like to add that the navbits do not allow you to click to the top forum level as one would normally do, say on vbulletin.com, instead you are forced to click the "Forums" tab and thus resulting in a new learned behavior.

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Originally Posted by PennylessZ28 (Post 1154988)

That is true, I was going to include that but forgot. :)

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Since there is now a separate page for it, perhaps there should be a policy of having same-sized avatars. Otherwise, the page looks very unprofessional.

That was my very impression also.

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The miscellanous blocks on the homepage should be on the right, since English is a left-to-right language. Main things should be on the left (looked at first).

I felt like Chinese were taking over the site.

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Logotype is logotype of the whole site, not of its part, no matter how major. Therefore, it should point to the site's main page as is done on most sites.

Lots of navigation to go back to homepage. I resorted looking at browser address bar

About the new name: When I first saw it I thought I was on the wrong site. Imagine all the search engines already pointing to the right name and when you click you see something different! Bottom line, why change what worked well?

I really don't like the name change either...........everyone know's what vb.org is.

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Why are usertitles in parenthesis? This makes people feel unimportant. Like, "meh, coder". Or "meh, designer". "who cares? so let's put it in parenthesis". :rolleyes:

Not in parenthesis now.....

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Originally Posted by Psionic Vision (Post 1155054)

ADDITION:

Why are usertitles in parenthesis? This makes people feel unimportant. Like, "meh, coder". Or "meh, designer". "who cares? so let's put it in parenthesis". :rolleyes:

I guess they read that comment :)

I think Firefox has a custom CSS widget you can use to change the look of a site...

Out of a 10 I give the new design a 0.01.

Although I do appreciate the work done by the staff here, I think the design should have been handled in a contest like the one Alex did a couple years back. I know I would be willing to help with the design and coding of the skin, and I am sure Transverse and other designers and coders here would be willing to help as well for a little recognition. Sometimes the MOST TALENTED designers and what not are outside the staff of vB.org, but yet would most likely be willing to help since we all get business from here.

To be honest, overall, I like the new style changes. It is just a tad more pleasing on my eyes to have a more defined non-fluid style available.

With that being said, I wish they had allowed us to choose the other ones if we prefered. It is rather artificial to force style changes on the existing memberbase.

To be honest, i am quite happy with the new style/look...
Its very hard to please everyone with a site as big as this :)

I also like the design and all the work that went into it. I also agree, you cannot please everyone :)

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Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1155457)

I guess they read that comment :)

Well that depends who you ask, as apparently we ignore all suggestions ;)

BTW, did anyone notice your style choice in the postbit again .... :)

You are my man Psion.I agree with everything.Perhaps the first post that has more than 50 characters that I read on vb.org ;)

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Originally Posted by Psionic Vision (Post 1154968)

We all know what "vBulletin.org" is. What about "VBULLETIN MODS"? Could be any random vbulletin hacking site retrieved by entering "vbulletin mods" into google and then clicking on a link from the N'th result page with one's eyes closed.
...........

Good job removing parenthesis, I'm looking forward to the implementation of at least some of my other suggestions.

ADDITION:
Since you now have QA in the article section, please delete all the bullshit articles that are posted there. When one wants to find a truly useful article, it's almost impossible to do so because 80% of the articles are junk.

ADDITION #2:
The tabs lose focus when you are within the tab but not on the page it points to.

ADDITION #3:

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Originally Posted by Princeton

KISS

Beep. Contradiction detected. The navbar does not follow the "KISS" principle, although one would expect it to.

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1155633)

Well that depends who you ask, as apparently we ignore all suggestions ;)

BTW, did anyone notice your style choice in the postbit again .... :)

Noticed that sometime this morning :D
Funny names for the styles though

vBulletin.org is vBulletin.org again at least. Note it down as one more piece of constructive criticism heard :)

PLEASE can be we have the top level put back in the breadcrumb. It's weird having to click on the 'Forum' tab or logo to go back to the forum home. I don't have to do it on any other vBulletin forum I use so why do I have to do it on a official Jelsoft one?

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Originally Posted by vBulletin THEN DAYLIGHT (Post 1156311)

Well, if every forum was the same then improvements would never be made would they? Having said that, I don't think it's an improvement, sorry guys.

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Originally Posted by vBulletin THEN DAYLIGHT (Post 1156311)

It's weird having to click on the 'Forum' tab or logo to go back to the forum home.

You can also click on the "VBULLETIN.ORG".

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Originally Posted by Lars-Christian (Post 1156173)

vBulletin.org is vBulletin.org again at least. Note it down as one more piece of constructive criticism heard :)

THANK YOU! Now I feel like I am on the right site again.

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Originally Posted by bashy (Post 1155574)

To be honest, i am quite happy with the new style/look...
Its very hard to please everyone with a site as big as this :)

I'd have to agree,

the tabs up top could be worked on Graphically but it doesn't bug me much

I like the blocks under the threads, I like the navbar buttons,
I like the usercp with the PM folders setup like that.

I like it all :D.lol

I actually disagree with most everything you had to say. Vbulletin.org finally has a professional look and feeling to it.

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1156388)

You can also click on the "VBULLETIN.ORG".

The Breadcrumb is back as it was now. THANKS :D

The () got off in posts, but at the top of release threads its still there -.-

Full drop downs of all sub fora in nav bar please.

TIA!

That will be all,

CH http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1752/waveyig0.gif

P.S. Shweet job!

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Originally Posted by vBulletin THEN DAYLIGHT (Post 1156525)

The Breadcrumb is back as it was now. THANKS :D

I know ;)

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Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1156528)

The () got off in posts, but at the top of release threads its still there -.-

I think they look okay there.

As stated before, the portal modules on the home page NEED to be on the right hand side of the page if you are using a 2 column layout. It is way too congested looking on the left IMO.

Also, I never understood why clicking on the main forum banner takes you to the forum root and not home. What is the homepage of this site? Whatever you decide on, it should be reachable by clicking the top image as per every other website in the free world. This has always been confusing, if you are forcing people to adopt new browsing behaviors, it would be a good time to fix this.

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Originally Posted by vBulletin THEN DAYLIGHT (Post 1156525)

The Breadcrumb is back as it was now. THANKS :D

Thank you, now browsing is good again :)

Thanks for going back to the vbulletin.org name.............

lol you stole my ajax install links idea :p

i miss the "search for todays posting" link
so i must do it direct in the adressbar in the browser /search.php?do=getdaily

After the Search-Button is a little black arrow. Simple click on it and you'll find "Today's Post"-link.

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Originally Posted by ragtek (Post 1158747)

danke

You're welcome :)

Nice to see some good suggestions taken into account and actually used :)

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Originally Posted by rogersnm (Post 1158825)

Nice to see some good suggestions taken into account and actually used :)

There's been only two, so they implemented about 1% of my suggestions. And that's not cool.

New design looks good, a big improvement from the last style.

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