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Ziki 01-08-2007 12:04 PM

vb.org is not going right
 
The past two years vb.org has gone through many changes.I would like to say
NO!

Most of us don't like the changes and especially the style.vB.org is an addictive site and I say that breaking habbits is not easy.We loved vb.org just like it was before.This will only lead to more threads like this.I beg for vb.org to return as it was before.Please

djbaxter 01-08-2007 12:27 PM

1. get over it - nothing stays the same unless it's in terminal decay approaching extinction

2. if you don't like this style, change it in User CP | Options - this is not rocket science

Regs 01-08-2007 12:27 PM

Do they have cheese in Slovakia?

:rolleyes:

Shazz 01-08-2007 12:36 PM

Really? Poll is still up
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=135834&page=2

Ziki 01-08-2007 12:41 PM

I loved the dark blue :(((

Ramsesx 01-08-2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziki (Post 1153530)

Most of us don't like the changes and especially the style.

Who do you mean with "most of us"?
I think the most important thing is the content of a site and not the style.
I like the new style b.t.w. hm or should I say, the most of us? :rolleyes:

Adrian Schneider 01-08-2007 01:43 PM

Yep, speak for yourself. ;)

I think it looks good, but could have been done better (though EVERYTHING on every site could have been done better). It will take getting used to, then you will like it. My only complaint is the width, I want it about 90% which I accomplished using GreaseMonkey, but the image is messed up and I don't have the patience to resize it. :p

RedTyger 01-08-2007 01:43 PM

I have never, in all the forums I've dealt with, seen a change where people did not immediately ask for things to be put back how they were and complain about the differences between the old and new. It always happens. Every single time. Then they get used to it, they settle down and they get over it. And all is well with the world.

Please, don't speak on behalf of other people. It's rude and baseless. Besides, any tweaking that needs to be done will be done.

---MAD--- 01-08-2007 03:18 PM

Yeah its fine. A few improvements can be made though and hopefully they will get on to improving things shortly :p.

Mr Pink 01-08-2007 03:49 PM

I think vB.org's Team would have to give possibility to use them to our. https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziki (Post 1153562)
I loved the dark blue :(((

I have re-created it, in local. But it's copyrighted by vB.org, so we can't use it. https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Brandon Sheley 01-08-2007 03:51 PM

I don't know about you guys but I dig the new style :)

and yes, there are some things that could be improved on, but everything can be improved on ;)

I hope the new look with breath a new life into the place.

Paul M 01-08-2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziki (Post 1153530)
Most of us don't like the changes and especially the style.vB.org is an addictive site and I say that breaking habbits is not easy.We loved vb.org just like it was before.This will only lead to more threads like this.I beg for vb.org to return as it was before.Please

Most of us ?? - I think you need to check your facts on that one.

The change is permanant, so I suggest you save your begging for something else. :cool:

Mr Pink 01-08-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1153754)

The change is permanant, so I suggest you save your begging for something else. :cool:

Don't you allow to re-select oldest styles?

Paul M 01-08-2007 04:37 PM

The old styles have all been deleted.

Mr Pink 01-08-2007 04:38 PM

Ok. Thanks for reply.

DaPro 01-08-2007 04:38 PM

With the wider option in the options, its easier for me to work with this now, was so cramped before, however the design still needs more change or was the goal to stick with the default vB design?

PennylessZ28 01-08-2007 04:40 PM

Why bother making suggestions, the Administrators of this site clearly are going to do what they want.

Alot of people are complaining about the nav bits and the fact you can't go back to the forums with out clicking the stupid FORUMS tab!!!

Might as well end this thread. It's pointless.

Adrian Schneider 01-08-2007 04:43 PM

You can click on the "VBULLETIN MODS" text to go back to the forums.

Paul M 01-08-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennylessZ28 (Post 1153762)
Why bother making suggestions, the Administrators of this site clearly are going to do what they want.

You haven't made any suggestions, just posted pointless oversized rants about things being crap (across multiple threads as well).

If you can't post in a civilised manner then don't bother posting at all.

Shelley_c 01-08-2007 04:48 PM

People are easily pleased. Minimum effort went into the style(s) as it's clearly default. Bit of advise, your wasting your time unless your comments are of a positive nature.

As sir adrian suggested the fluid (blue lagoon) would look better at 90% width.

edit: I mean't the fixed width would look better at 90%

DaPro 01-08-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennylessZ28 (Post 1153762)
Why bother making suggestions, the Administrators of this site clearly are going to do what they want.

Alot of people are complaining about the nav bits and the fact you can't go back to the forums with out clicking the stupid FORUMS tab!!!

Might as well end this thread. It's pointless.

I agree, the attitude here is that the change has been made and live with it, even though that is true and I understand that the changes are here to stay, that doesn't mean you can't make a new style with some of our suggestions, possibly upgrading the old style to work with the new changes would be cool.

The whole "deal with it" attitude is really not needed. Sorry but the response from some of the admins has been very negative to any feedback talking about the bad points to this new look. Got to take the good with the bad -_- not just say "take your suggestions (begging) elsewhere..."

- John

Princeton 01-08-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaPro (Post 1153760)
With the wider option in the options, its easier for me to work with this now, was so cramped before, however the design still needs more change or was the goal to stick with the default vB design?

yes, the goal was to stick with a default vbulletin look ...

if we wanted to change the look we could have easily done so

Shelley_c 01-08-2007 05:05 PM

No need to get on the defensive side princeton he's/she's just suggesting that there is room for improvement.

Paul M 01-08-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaPro (Post 1153777)
not just say "take your suggestions (begging) elsewhere..."

I did not actually say "take your suggestions elsewhere" :)

Quote:

I beg for vb.org to return as it was before.
Quote:

The change is permanant, so I suggest you save your begging for something else

If people have genuine useful suggestions, and post them in a constructive manner, then they will be noted and considered - but that does not mean they will be acted upon - some may, some may not - in many cases things are now done in alternative ways, and people will just have to get used to those new ways. That's life.

There is always room for improvement, but the style(s) have not even been live for 24 hours yet so no one is going to rush into any changes.

One thing that we will not consider, or take notice of, are rants & posts like "it's crap", "it's stupid", or even things like "go back to the old style" - these really are of no use to us or anyone else.

Shelley_c 01-08-2007 06:24 PM

Exactly were in this thread have the community said "the style looks crap" or "it's bad" in those short and brief statements your stating/assuming paul?

The community was expecting alot more than 4 custom logos because that's what you have given back 4 custom logos and default styles.

Another observation. Why run a poll asking what colours the community want if vb.org have already designed these styles? Doesn't make sense.

4 custom logos is all you've given back. Can't argue with the facts and with relation to your statement that's an assumption because noone in this thread has made such a statement in the brief wording you assumed.

djbaxter 01-08-2007 06:28 PM

Why all the whining, people?

On my forum, I choose the colors, styles, buttons, etc., as I see fit, the same way I choose which add-ons I install. I may ask for opinions from my members but I don't think that implies that the members will make the final decision - my forum, my decision.

What's different about vbulletin.org?

Paul M 01-08-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1153854)
Exactly were in this thread have the community said "the style looks crap" or "it's bad" in those short and brief statements your stating/assuming paul?

I didn't actually say just this thread.

Shelley_c 01-08-2007 07:11 PM

Maybe keep the thread on topic (as you always say to everyone). Maybe you'll notice that people did make suggestions (which have gone ignored).

practice what you preach paul and keep it on topic. The other threads and comments are made by other members of the community. common sense prevails and a little descretion.

Paul M 01-08-2007 07:35 PM

I'm well aware that suggestion(s) are buried in the noise of this thread. I'm sure Joe will take note of any. To say they have been ignored is somewhat ridiculous, even if any suggestions were to be implemented, it wouldn't be within a few minutes/hours of them being made.

Kirk Y 01-08-2007 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 1153860)
Why all the whining, people?

On my forum, I choose the colors, styles, buttons, etc., as I see fit, the same way I choose which add-ons I install. I may ask for opinions from my members but I don't think that implies that the members will make the final decision - my forum, my decision.

What's different about vbulletin.org?

What's different? Oh, I'd say about 160,000 members and nearly 1 million posts. :)

When your site caters to people, it needs approval by those people -- if the people aren't happy, then there goes your business - or website, as the case may be.

PennylessZ28 01-08-2007 10:14 PM

I'm surprised, deleted my comments and didn't even send me a PM or reprimand.

Shazz 01-08-2007 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennylessZ28 (Post 1154054)
I'm surprised, deleted my comments and didn't even send me a PM or reprimand.

You seem to be repeating yourself in many of these threads :eek:

Cap'n Steve 01-09-2007 03:13 AM

There really are a lot of whiners on this site. What specifically don't you guys like?

I'm not sure about the color of the new style, a choice with something darker might be nice in the future, and I can't seem to find a search link anywhere, but the organization is great. Looking at a hack thread is just so much nicer with this style.

Shazz 01-09-2007 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap'n Steve (Post 1154251)
There really are a lot of whiners on this site. What specifically don't you guys like?

I'm not sure about the color of the new style, a choice with something darker might be nice in the future, and I can't seem to find a search link anywhere, but the organization is great. Looking at a hack thread is just so much nicer with this style.

Just asking that question will have them repeat themselves again.. :eek:
Read around all the site feedback threads :)

Paul M 01-09-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap'n Steve (Post 1154251)
and I can't seem to find a search link anywhere, but the organization is great. Looking at a hack thread is just so much nicer with this style.

The search dropdown links are the little black arrow, just right of the search button.

Cap'n Steve 01-09-2007 04:42 AM

Well now I feel dumb. It just takes some getting used to I guess.

captainslater 01-09-2007 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1154284)
The search dropdown links are the little black arrow, just right of the search button.

Maybe you'll open a thread where all changes are listed or a FAQ-Thread with some of the questions which are coming up these days?

djbaxter 01-09-2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidburn0520 (Post 1153976)
What's different? Oh, I'd say about 160,000 members and nearly 1 million posts. :)

When your site caters to people, it needs approval by those people -- if the people aren't happy, then there goes your business - or website, as the case may be.

Perhaps. But you're never going to be able to please everyone. Apparently there are more people happy than unhappy: see https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=135834. That makes it seem that all the fuss and kafuffle is a very noisy (and very whiny) minority.

WhaLberg 01-09-2007 11:38 AM

As Heraclitus said: "Πάντα xoῥεῖ καὶ οὐδὲν μένει" -> "Everything flows and nothing stands still"

So, the new face of vB.org is not bad, it's excellent. And it's not important how it looks, it's important how -much- it helps.

Your sincerely.

Ziki 01-09-2007 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1153754)
so I suggest you save your begging for something else. :cool:

ok I beg for you to forgive me :p


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