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lasto 01-07-2007 02:33 PM

Seriously annoying
 
why is this thread shut - is no valid reason once again

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=135542

You really need to clear up on the rules cause it seems anyone whinging about getting ripped off has no say on this board.
This is not the only thread either to get shut cause its not in the interest of the board.

So upon that please vote above if you agree with me or disagree

Infact seems we may have a response - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...21#post1099921

Any complaining must be done though emails or pms - so you on your own im afraid.

Staxed 01-07-2007 02:56 PM

I definitely agree (at least on that thread)

especially when it's not the only bad thread about that guy...

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=the+coldwood
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=the+coldwood
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=the+coldwood
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=the+coldwood
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...t=the+coldwood

Shelley_c 01-07-2007 03:35 PM

That would have been either paul or kerry who closed that. think yourself lucky. I had my reply delete when I gave my opinion on a style, they deleted the reply 10 times repeatidly.

They'll close your threads edit even delete them without any warning or reason why. Pathetic really but with power comes stupidity.

Shazz 01-07-2007 03:39 PM

I think if they see big arguments iin those threads they will close it :cross-eyed:

Ziki 01-07-2007 04:05 PM

Yes also the binary code thread has been closed for no reason.

da420 01-07-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto (Post 1152653)
This is not the only thread either to get shut cause its not in the interest of the board.

I think you just answered your own question.

Shazz 01-07-2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da420 (Post 1152728)
I think you just answered your own question.

lol...
This should be a site feedback thread

itsid 01-07-2007 05:08 PM

Well...

as an user: Yeah closing MY thread without letting me know any reason for doing so is annoying.....

but as an admin myself: Sometimes users don't know about all the facts and sometimes they shouldn't know ;)
So I'm closing threads too without giving any reason, don't you do the same sometimes??

Don't be annoyed, if you can't live with a closed thread, go ahead and ask a Mod (kindly !! :D), Mostly you'll get an answer and don't need to bother

Cheers
'sid

MRGTB 01-07-2007 10:35 PM

What I'm curious about is this, that thread was closed ages ago after my post was made there. By that I mean, I made the "very last post" then it was closed about a minute later. How comes now it's still closed, yet there is a new thread posted after mine now by the person accused of doing the ripping off all of a sudden.

Why was it re-opened just so he could make the last reply, then closed again? Not giving people the option to reply to his comments now?

Paul M 01-07-2007 10:52 PM

The thead has only been closed once, after both sides had had their say.

Adrian Schneider 01-07-2007 10:56 PM

What about the Tim thread... that was left open forever and both parties put their say in several times. I don't think it's fair for either party to have the last say like that...

Anyway, just something to consider... I don't really care as it doesn't concern me.

MRGTB 01-07-2007 10:59 PM

Sorry Paul, but that can't be true. I made a post there (next to last post). But at the time it was the last post. Then I went to edit it about 10 seconds later, and it was locked.

If the last reply was only a few words, yeh maybe he squeezed it in. But its a long reply with quotes from multiple people in it. No way did he squeeze that in before I tried to edit my post and found it was locked in about 10 seconds. He even quoted me in his post, so he would have had to have seen my last reply before even starting his reply.

But it doesn't matter

Lionel 01-08-2007 12:05 AM

I've always advocated some kind of protection like itrader to protect us against those who are abusing vb.org (and ultimately make this site look bad as if they approved of the crooks)

Paul M 01-08-2007 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRGTB (Post 1153017)
Sorry Paul, but that can't be true.

I can see the edit log, so I know it's true. :)

MRGTB 01-08-2007 12:48 AM

Sorry I got it wrong accually, it was another thread ages ago I was talking about were I made a post and then it was closed. Geez, I need to get some glasses me thinks. :confused:

The Coldwood 03-14-2007 11:31 PM

I feel I should respond before this thread gets locked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasto (Post 1152653)
why is this thread shut - is no valid reason once again

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=135542

You really need to clear up on the rules cause it seems anyone whinging about getting ripped off has no say on this board.
This is not the only thread either to get shut cause its not in the interest of the board.

So upon that please vote above if you agree with me or disagree

Infact seems we may have a response - https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...21#post1099921

Any complaining must be done though emails or pms - so you on your own im afraid.

The thread was locked because it contained libelous statements about my business. Untrue, harmful statements. vBulletin.org did the right thing by closing the thread but they should have removed the thread immediately. The thread that you are linking to is defamatory and it puts vBulletin.org and the administration at liability due to the fact that it hurts me and my business.

As an admin, you should equate it to the little flamer on any message board. What they said on that post is not right and it is not legal.

People are usually willing to spit out rumours at the ready. This does not make it right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsid (Post 1152751)
Well...

as an user: Yeah closing MY thread without letting me know any reason for doing so is annoying.....

but as an admin myself: Sometimes users don't know about all the facts and sometimes they shouldn't know ;)
So I'm closing threads too without giving any reason, don't you do the same sometimes??

Don't be annoyed, if you can't live with a closed thread, go ahead and ask a Mod (kindly !! :D), Mostly you'll get an answer and don't need to bother

Cheers
'sid

As an admin, I know full well that it is very important to realize that any community will have it's drama. But it is very important that you take care of such issues like defamation and what not - otherwise legal liabilities may arise.

Damian 03-15-2007 02:27 AM

Interesting, this thread has been dead for over 2 months and was buried several pages back. I assume you were searching for your username.

You felt the need to bump it as a reminder for everyone not to do business with you I guess?

nexialys 03-15-2007 03:12 AM

can you stop always complaining ?!... each time something goes wrong with your ideas, you start polls or make major flaming about the administration here...

if you are not that happy, why don't you just start your own community of coders and rule by your own guides ?!... then if a thread is going too far, you will be the one to decide to close it, and you'll see what it is to receive flames for administration tasks...

come on, ask the admins before asking everybody what they think about something you're not a single way involved.

please close and drop this thread in the garbage can... Oscar is waiting!

Marco van Herwaarden 03-15-2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Coldwood (Post 1203698)
The thread was locked because it contained libelous statements about my business.

Considering that you are not staff here, you have no knowledge on why a thread is closed other then the reason posted by staff when closing a thread.

jagari 03-18-2007 10:14 AM

Corrupt staff for the win!

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4273/wheeeeexq8.jpg

*rollseyes*

Marco van Herwaarden 03-18-2007 10:49 AM

I really hope that you can explain why a staff member who is modifying a post is corrupt?

I can not say that i am amused by your reply.

jagari 03-18-2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1206256)
I really hope that you can explain why a staff member who is modifying a post is corrupt?

I can not say that i am amused by your reply.



Excuse me?


If you notice, i posted that afterwards.



Kaythanks.

bitdefuser 03-18-2007 01:17 PM

It would annoy me, just a small reason could help out. :)

SCRIPT3R 03-18-2007 05:51 PM

another thread about coldwood closed/dumped today!!!

when is vB.org gonna step up to an obvious problem?!?! we hear something about this guy every other week it seems!

Marco van Herwaarden 03-18-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagari (Post 1206352)
Excuse me?


If you notice, i posted that afterwards.



Kaythanks.

Sorry but either i don't understand you or you don't make sense.

You see a staff member (me in this case) edit a post, and you make a screenshot and post that in this thread with the text that staff is corrupt?

Please explain, because to tell you the truth your remark really pisses me off.

d8tabyte 03-18-2007 06:09 PM

The membership here acts like they own the joint - like they are shareholders or something. Every single time I see a post like that, or a post QUESTIONING the motives of the people responsible for running this site, it makes me wonder why the site mod's don't get a little harsher on the mob than simply saying "accept it".

I'm sorry, but if someone outright said a member of my staff was corrupt for doing the tasks I assigned them to do, that member would see a few days off - There is a point when constructive criticism becomes destructive, with no place in a community and just flat out abusive.

This site is provided as a service. Just because you bought your license from Vbulletin, and this site uses that brand, it gives you no right to sit there and JUDGE those put in place to run it, go back to the .com boards if you want to complain.

What ever, just my 2 cents and I am sure the members that think they own this place will jump all over me, but honestly it just makes you look like a joke when you do.

unenergizer 03-19-2007 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d8tabyte (Post 1206643)
The membership here acts like they own the joint - like they are shareholders or something. Every single time I see a post like that, or a post QUESTIONING the motives of the people responsible for running this site, it makes me wonder why the site mod's don't get a little harsher on the mob than simply saying "accept it".

I'm sorry, but if someone outright said a member of my staff was corrupt for doing the tasks I assigned them to do, that member would see a few days off - There is a point when constructive criticism becomes destructive, with no place in a community and just flat out abusive.

This site is provided as a service. Just because you bought your license from Vbulletin, and this site uses that brand, it gives you no right to sit there and JUDGE those put in place to run it, go back to the .com boards if you want to complain.

What ever, just my 2 cents and I am sure the members that think they own this place will jump all over me, but honestly it just makes you look like a joke when you do.

Your post is probably one of the only one's I agree with. Good input.

As for me, I believe that vb.org should implement some type of user rating system for the service request forum. Maybe something similar to eBay?s user rating and user feedback system. I believe this method of tracking and rating users should be a must if the staff continues to allow "Requests for Paid Services." Although I realize that this type of application would take time and money to develop. An alternative to this would be removing the "Requests for Paid Services" forum, which would affect my business quite a bit.

When you view the Requests for Paid Services forum, filburt has stickied three very important posts. These should be read carefully and be strongly taken into consideration. If a user requesting for a paid service does not take these threads in consideration, then they are at there own fault. People should take the time to RESEARCH the developer contacting them to see if they are legitimate developers.

All in all, people are, for a lack of better words, screwing them self?s over by letting this happen. I myself have posted service requests, and you can be damn sure that I research every person that applies for the position.

I understand why everyone?s angry about being ripped off, but the fact is, you didn?t heed the warnings clearly placed on the board for your financially safety.

Andrew

jagari 03-19-2007 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1206630)
Sorry but either i don't understand you or you don't make sense.

You see a staff member (me in this case) edit a post, and you make a screenshot and post that in this thread with the text that staff is corrupt?

Please explain, because to tell you the truth your remark really pisses me off.


Oh my, you are in no position to be swearing towards me :3



Oh, and ' Last edited by jagari : Yesterday at 11:17. Reason: Automerged Doublepost'


Nothing more need sto be said, if you don't know what that means you need a check up to be honest.

unenergizer 03-19-2007 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagari (Post 1207078)
Oh, and ' Last edited by jagari : Yesterday at 11:17. Reason: Automerged Doublepost'


Nothing more need sto be said, if you don't know what that means you need a check up to be honest.

That is an automated feature. :)

jagari 03-19-2007 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unenergizer (Post 1207085)
That is an automated feature. :)

Oh my ++++ing god.



I guess you're both stupid then.


I know what it ++++ing is.

Marco van Herwaarden 03-19-2007 08:53 AM

Seems you have a lot to learn jagari, how to communicate in a decent way for a start.

Brad 03-19-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagari (Post 1207078)
Oh my, you are in no position to be swearing towards me :3



Oh, and ' Last edited by jagari : Yesterday at 11:17. Reason: Automerged Doublepost'


Nothing more need sto be said, if you don't know what that means you need a check up to be honest.

Yes yes perfectly fine for you to bypass a swear filter but if a staff member says you're pissing him off it's the end of the world.

Tell you what, when you learn how to type in English correctly and have something worth posting try again. You obviously don't take more than a few seconds before deciding to post the crap you post. Also as cool as cruse words can be they make you look stupid when you attempt to string them together like you do in your last post. You sound like a 5 year old, maybe you are?

Ah I love the ignore button.

Lionel 03-19-2007 10:24 PM

It never fails. The more they are stupid, the more they are arrogant. This guy is blaming the automerge function and acts smart when a good soul points it out to him.

jagari 03-22-2007 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1206630)
Sorry but either i don't understand you or you don't make sense.

You see a staff member (me in this case) edit a post, and you make a screenshot and post that in this thread with the text that staff is corrupt?

Please explain, because to tell you the truth your remark really pisses me off.

Well, you SEE, I posted 'Corrupt staff for the win'


Then left the thread, with me?

I then, just went on 'Who's online' out of boredom.

I saw you editing a post, no, nothing wrong with that, but I felt I had to post it.


I could go on and on, But I don't feel like any more infractions currently :D

SCRIPT3R 03-22-2007 03:43 PM

my brain hurts.

unenergizer 03-22-2007 03:47 PM

This thread is pointless and keeps dragging on and on. Stop bumping it back. Someone please close this, because this thread is just to childish to continue on with.

jagari 03-23-2007 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unenergizer (Post 1209623)
This thread is pointless and keeps dragging on and on. Stop bumping it back. Someone please close this, because this thread is just to childish to continue on with.


Agreed.




Oh no!

hambil 03-23-2007 08:27 AM

I think there should be an ebay style user feedback system. This way, people who got bad results, bad support, bad custom work, etc... have a way to give their feedback, but it is also balanced by good feedback given by others. And someone deciding if they should install a hack or hire someone can look at the full picture and make an informed decision.

I don't think public threads attacking a coder or designer are helpful, or productive, but until we have a feedback system in place there is little else the slighted member can do.


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