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melefire 06-13-2006 10:28 PM

Webhosts
 
A couple days ago i would have suggested(with a ton on enthusiasm) that people use JMFHosting. But now i am really pissed, at when i was going back to my forum homepage i got a database error, so i went into cPanel to see the log, it turns out my host completely randomly deleted my vb database, so i checked my personal blog, it had no database too! i emailed my host, i do hope it dosn't take him 15 days to reply like last time. i really think i am switching hosts it i don't get a real good reason for this.

*MeleFire takes a breath

So now im just waiting, i really hope that he backed up sometime within the last hour. I had to restrain myself from kicking my computer!

GE-Biggs 06-13-2006 10:47 PM

That sucks. I know how that feels. So far I've been with my current hosting for 2 years, (have 3 domains, 2 for fun and private, 1 which is new and am slowly building up) and as far as I know I have had a total of 15 minutes of unexpected downtime. So far my experience with mine has been great, if ever I have needed anything done, I have just phoned them and within minutes have been talking to someone, who actually got what I needed done. I can't say that my experience is the rule, since perhaps I've just been lucky, but so far so good.

melefire 06-13-2006 10:51 PM

whats your host?

Zachery 06-13-2006 11:07 PM

<a href="http://jmfhosting.com/" target="_blank">http://jmfhosting.com/</a> A hosting company with unrealistic packags.

melefire 06-13-2006 11:08 PM

so what should i do?

TruthElixirX 06-13-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melefire
so what should i do?

See if you have a back-up. If not, go cry. That's what I would do. >.>

Zachery 06-13-2006 11:40 PM

Try to get a backup and then find a _much_ better host.

Look for a host with realistic limits, theres no way in hell he can offer anyone 10gb of storage and 100gb of bandwidth for only 15 bucks a month. At most with a host that has a very large bandwidth allotment he could have 25 people on that machine, but that means he'd also need 250gb of storage, just for websites, not including backups or the OS files tiself. So they'd need a machine with 500GB worth of storage and 2500GB of bandwidth. But that would only net this guy 375 a month, a server like that proball costs at least 200-300 a month. So chances are hes greavely over selling. which means close to 50 or 100 or 200 sites on this server. Theres no machine that could possible hold 50 or 100 websites that could each use 10GB and 100GB. Do the math ;)

dan35 06-14-2006 03:53 AM

Make sure you do backup daily/weekly. Don't rely on your host to do that!

Sean S 06-14-2006 05:27 AM

sorry to hear that happen to you man, I would be furious. I checked out the hosting company and the deals look a bit too good to be true and I have to agree with Zachery.

Usually hosting companies back up servers everyday/everyweek, so as soon as you got the backup just make sure you move to a different host.

Cause if a hosting company deletes a database on mistake, then imagine what else they could do to screw up your website.

Hope everything gets sorted out for you, good luck.

lebanon 06-14-2006 05:47 AM

melefire, just a suggestion you might want to email your host about, i suppose your dbs are not deleted, you mentioned ur using cpanel , which leads to the fact that if mysql was failing on the server your cpanel will see it as no db for any user , so it might be as simple as restarting mysql for you !
Normaly, even for endusers, hosts allow services to be seen in cpanel running services, check if mysql is running okey, one last resolution, sometimes for some reason the db info disappears and your dbs will fail, in such a case, from your side you will need to recreate the dbs and usernames manually ( BUT FIRST, your host should be copying /var/lib/mysql/YOURUSER_* data, when you recreate the user it will recreate the mysql connection for you and all they will have to do then is copy back replacing your folders !
Ofcourse all hosts or most of them at least have backups , so shouldnt worry too much!

Marco van Herwaarden 06-14-2006 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lebanon
Ofcourse all hosts or most of them at least have backups , so shouldnt worry too much!

You would be surprised to see how many hosts suddenly don't have a working backup when you need it.

lebanon 06-14-2006 06:45 AM

MarchoH64 , well it would be surprising yes, considering i do webhosting and i know its hardly 40 bucks for 200GB remote space to backup to or a one time 300$ for a hdd slave for backups, i mean i would understand if its saving money thing but it cant be but stupidity not to have backups

Zachery 06-14-2006 07:38 AM

I've always urged my clients to do backups themselfs, I do preform backups but they are not daily (3 times a week, so there are 3 backups but they could be aged).

melefire 06-14-2006 09:11 AM

my webhost still has not replied, he must be having alot of problems now, i sent him 3 emails earlier about databases disapperring.

also mysql is working, i have another db, webmail, and it runs fine, but slow

Ohiosweetheart 06-14-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Try to get a backup and then find a _much_ better host.

Look for a host with realistic limits, theres no way in hell he can offer anyone 10gb of storage and 100gb of bandwidth for only 15 bucks a month. At most with a host that has a very large bandwidth allotment he could have 25 people on that machine, but that means he'd also need 250gb of storage, just for websites, not including backups or the OS files tiself. So they'd need a machine with 500GB worth of storage and 2500GB of bandwidth. But that would only net this guy 375 a month, a server like that proball costs at least 200-300 a month. So chances are hes greavely over selling. which means close to 50 or 100 or 200 sites on this server. Theres no machine that could possible hold 50 or 100 websites that could each use 10GB and 100GB. Do the math ;)

I have a resellers account with 10 gb of storage and 100 gb of bw for $20 per month... have been with them for a long time now. NO problems whatsoever.

Freesteyelz 06-14-2006 08:47 PM

I've just recently moved over to a VPS web hosting service, LiquidWeb, and their support so far has been top notch. Being that I'm nearly clueless when it comes to server-side operations the representatives did not degrade me in any way. I've called 5 times yesterday alone and they were very informative and patient.

The plan that I have currently can be found by clicking here. You won't get much info just by looking at the site but I can tell you from my end that I'm pleased. I'll post back later for an update on LiquidWeb services. :)

sebbe 06-14-2006 09:29 PM

All I can say is Hostmonster. Amazing deal and works great! :)

GE-Biggs 06-14-2006 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melefire
whats your host?

Follow the link in my sig and theres an icon under the links module located on the right. :banana:

Or just go to www.bluehost.com.

Ntfu2 06-15-2006 05:35 AM

Softlayer for me :) They rock

pirotess 06-16-2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
I've always urged my clients to do backups themselfs, I do preform backups but they are not daily (3 times a week, so there are 3 backups but they could be aged).

Im a bit psycho about my backups. I run database backups every six hours and file backups daily. (since they rarely change other than attachments, avatars, gallery images, etc.)

In any case I run a dedicated server from ev1servers.net. Cant say that I've had a problem to date with them and I've been with them for a year now.

Behemoth 06-17-2006 04:58 AM

<a href="http://www.dreamhost.com" target="_blank">Dreamhost</a> has been nothing short of awesome.

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Zachery 06-17-2006 05:12 AM

I don't think dreamhost is quite a dream, I've heard of alot of issues recently with them/

Behemoth 06-17-2006 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
I don't think dreamhost is quite a dream, I've heard of alot of issues recently with them/

Really? Such as what? I've had no issues, and I've been with them for...3 months or so now.

Razor 06-17-2006 11:06 AM

I hear Dreamhost has had some issues with massive server loads.

Zachery 06-17-2006 06:13 PM

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...ight=dreamhost For one, theres another thread where scott points out on .com where dreamhost refuses to run php as an apache filter/module which would decrease overall cpu usage with accounts, but you'd lose the ability to track them. Personally I'd rather have happy customers :p

Ohiosweetheart 06-17-2006 08:10 PM

<a href="http://www.hostww.net" target="_blank">Hostww.net</a>.... they are awesome!

majordude 09-03-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirotess
Im a bit psycho about my backups. I run database backups every six hours and file backups daily. (since they rarely change other than attachments, avatars, gallery images, etc.)

Is this automated? (How do you do that with cpanel?)

Ntfu2 09-04-2006 11:28 PM

daily file backups are easy via cPanel/WHM if you have access that high.

Database backups, i can post a script that will backup the whole servers databases (provided you have root access) or just your databases ;) that you can set to run if needed

COBRAws 09-04-2006 11:47 PM

I've been hosting with A Small Orange, but lately these 2 months problems came up from nowhere. Tickets are not replied, and what pisses me most, when apache crashes (I have a VPS account), they say my site is up and running and that its my ISP.
Last week I had to buy an account @ siteuptime.com with a 2minute http check, wich is failing on daily basis. Since I write a ticket related to apache and the logs from this new service from siteuptime, they tell me they are suffering network problems.

So, for them, I am a dumb! I've asked them what could I do, if upgrade my VPS with more ram, buy a dedicated server or what, but never get a proper response, always the same "Send us your tracert for your domain, here we can perfectly see your website up and running".

Well, I must say, that im sick of being played as a fool. Good bye www.asmallorange.com, im going to get a new server @ liquidweb.com!

So, from now on, I wont refer any more people to ASO, also known as A Small Orange.

ps. damn im pissed. Good quality hosts are rare to find. But being played as a fool is worse.

yesfans 09-10-2006 01:07 PM

asmallorange.com is who I use, great host with many solutions to choose from based on your needs!


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