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Dean C 06-08-2006 08:21 AM

What is the point?
 
... Of the 3.6 forums. It's pretty clear that most modifications will still work...

DrewM 06-08-2006 08:36 AM

this was asked yester day and was said by Brad that not all the mods would work so.... I guess that but I mean they could just add 3.6 to the 3.5 drop down menu for verstions beacase it would be like adding a forum for 3.51, 3.5.2, 3.5.3, 3.5.4....

Tim Skellett 06-08-2006 09:52 AM

Since not all modifications will work, and since styles will need updating, I personally like seeing a seperate forum for 3.6; I find it very helpful.

Hellcat 06-08-2006 10:17 AM

The only problem is ppl re-releasing their 3.5 mods, simply becsue they still work in 3.6

That's something that shouldn't be done IMO!

If it needed porting, or is even a new one -> of course.
But posting the re-exported 3.5er simply because it still works in 3.6.... nah.... no good....

kall 06-08-2006 10:18 AM

I totally agree.

A note to say it works in both versions should be sufficient.

peterska2 06-08-2006 10:20 AM

There are a number of template changes between 3.5.x and 3.6.x so anything that requires a template edit may need to be redone. Also, as previously stated, not all 3.5 modifications will work on 3.6 due to some changes in the code and the way things work.

peterska2 06-08-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellcat
The only problem is ppl re-releasing their 3.5 mods, simply becsue they still work in 3.6

That's something that shouldn't be done IMO!

If it needed porting, or is even a new one -> of course.
But posting the re-exported 3.5er simply because it still works in 3.6.... nah.... no good....

Some updates/new features/tweaks/etc of a 3.5 mod done with 3.6 mean that it is now a 3.6 release (IMO anyway) but otherwise, it's a 3.5 release and a note should be added to the thread to say that it works in 3.6

Hellcat 06-08-2006 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterska2
There are a number of template changes between 3.5.x and 3.6.x so anything that requires a template edit may need to be redone. Also, as previously stated, not all 3.5 modifications will work on 3.6 due to some changes in the code and the way things work.

Those would quallify for me as "not working in 3.6 (without porting)" and hence can be posting in the 3.6 mods section.

But there many mods that just simply work - even my webmailer, pm-auto-reply, /me-hack and whatnotelse.

Import the 3.5 .XML -> boom! done! works!

And those shouldn't be re-released (but they are)

Ohiosweetheart 06-08-2006 03:13 PM

When I upgraded last night, 4 of my hacks/mods didn't work at all, 2 of them stalled the upgrade. I had to disable hooks via a code in the config.php (thanks noppid), then login and disabla all hacks. By turning them on one by one, I found the four that didn't work with 3.6 and had to uninstall them.
PITA

Roms 06-08-2006 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellcat
The only problem is ppl re-releasing their 3.5 mods, simply because they still work in 3.6

That's something that shouldn't be done IMO!

If it needed porting, or is even a new one -> of course.
But posting the re-exported 3.5er simply because it still works in 3.6.... nah.... no good....

I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself. Especially simple template edits that could be updated in the 3.5 threads.... :tired:

Boofo 06-08-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
When I upgraded last night, 4 of my hacks/mods didn't work at all, 2 of them stalled the upgrade. I had to disable hooks via a code in the config.php (thanks noppid), then login and disabla all hacks. By turning them on one by one, I found the four that didn't work with 3.6 and had to uninstall them.
PITA

It might be nice if we could start a list somewhere of what doesn't work so far so we can see if we can get them upgraded for 3.6.

Dean C 06-08-2006 08:31 PM

3.6 is not a major new version, and in my opinion it doesn't warrant a new section. It just gives people another excuse to dupe their mods for a new version./

Boofo 06-08-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
3.6 is not a major new version, and in my opinion it doesn't warrant a new section. It just gives people another excuse to dupe their mods for a new version./

Exactly! They add an unpdate to make it look like it is different, but it really isn't. ;)

noppid 06-08-2006 09:11 PM

I too have to agree. The addition of 3.6 forums seems to be unnecessary and worse, confusing. I expect new members or members that don't frequent the site may search and find a mod they want and see it's for 3.5.x and move on.

Hornstar 06-08-2006 09:20 PM

Well, this would solve it.

Get rid of the 3.6 forums

Rename the 3.5 forums to 3.5/3.6

currently the author has the option to do this [vB 3.5.x] Hack name

Edit the template to give the author the option to choose this

[vB 3.5.x]/[vB 3.6.x] Hack name

Now when we go to that hack/mod

We will know it works for what version, no more confusion

If this does not get done, I will be surprised.

Dean C 06-08-2006 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hornstar1337
Well, this would solve it.

Get rid of the 3.6 forums

Rename the 3.5 forums to 3.5/3.6

currently the author has the option to do this [vB 3.5.x] Hack name

Edit the template to give the author the option to choose this

[vB 3.5.x]/[vB 3.6.x] Hack name

Now when we go to that hack/mod

We will know it works for what version, no more confusion


If this does not get done, I will be surprised.

I agree with everything hornstar1337 said apart from the title of the threads ;) Should be: [vB 3.5.x/3.6.x] Hack name

Shorter ;)

TruthElixirX 06-08-2006 09:39 PM

Would it not be possible to do it this way:

Code a system so that if ANY 3 people "tag" it as 3.6 compatible, it gets auto moved to 3.6?

Hornstar 06-08-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
Would it not be possible to do it this way:

Code a system so that if ANY 3 people "tag" it as 3.6 compatible, it gets auto moved to 3.6?


No point really, as what I have said above is the method that should be done with one exception [vB 3.5.x/3.6.x] ;) Thanks Dean lol

Ohiosweetheart 06-08-2006 10:53 PM

As if there's not enough griping threads on this site.... for DAYS people have been bellyaching about how the site restructure has made it harder to find things. Staff creates a 3.6 section to make it EASIER for people who d/l 3.6 to find 3.6 mods... lo and behold someone has to find a reason to gripe about that too???

I can see it now.........................
After 3.6 stable version comes out, new members d/l 3.6, come looking for the 3.6 section to d/l 3.6 modifications, don't find said section... and here comes the onslaught of threads in site feedback asking where to find the hacks for 3.6.
Do you REALLY think they are going to look in 3.5.x for a 3.6 mod?? All of you who are griping about every stupid little thing you can find to gripe about... be ready to stand guard at site feedback and answer thread after thread of where to find the 3.6 hacks.

This place is becoming childish and ridiculous

Boofo 06-08-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
This place is becoming childish and ridiculous

It is not, and I'm telling! :p

Gio~Logist 06-08-2006 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
As if there's not enough griping threads on this site.... for DAYS people have been bellyaching about how the site restructure has made it harder to find things. Staff creates a 3.6 section to make it EASIER for people who d/l 3.6 to find 3.6 mods... lo and behold someone has to find a reason to gripe about that too???

I can see it now.........................
After 3.6 stable version comes out, new members d/l 3.6, come looking for the 3.6 section to d/l 3.6 modifications, don't find said section... and here comes the onslaught of threads in site feedback asking where to find the hacks for 3.6.
Do you REALLY think they are going to look in 3.5.x for a 3.6 mod?? All of you who are griping about every stupid little thing you can find to gripe about... be ready to stand guard at site feedback and answer thread after thread of where to find the 3.6 hacks.

This place is becoming childish and ridiculous

I can see where you're coming from and agree with a couple of the things that you said. However, as others mentioned, making the forum "3.5.x/3.6.x" make it so that no confusion is caused. Also, saying that this is childish and ridiculous in my opinion is a ridiculous statement considering that this is just users looking for the best of vb.org

Ohiosweetheart 06-08-2006 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
Also, saying that this is childish and ridiculous in my opinion is a ridiculous statement considering that this is just users looking for the best of vb.org

by finding fault with everything that the staff tries to do? right... I can just about guarantee they'll never find it.
.org has ceased to be a place to learn about and enhance your vBulleting board. It has become a fault-finding, nit-picking, playground. And that is not only my opinion.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
It is not, and I'm telling! :p

LOL...

Gio~Logist 06-08-2006 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
by finding fault with everything that the staff tries to do? right... I can just about guarantee they'll never find it.
.org has ceased to be a place to learn about and enhance your vBulleting board. It has become a fault-finding, nit-picking, playground. And that is not only my opinion.




LOL...

I can once again see where you're coming from. However, aren't you "fault-finding and nit-picking" right now? ;)

Ohiosweetheart 06-08-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
I can once again see where you're coming from. However, aren't you "fault-finding and nit-picking" right now? ;)

LOL... I guess you could say that. Because I'm tired of seeing the multitude of griping, complaining, fault-finding threads... and there are a multitude of them... and decided to say something... how many times? compared to the rest of you?

Hardly a comparison. Actually what I call me doing is defending the staff and leaders of this site. I wouldn't blame them if they got fed up and closed it down. Then where would y'all be.

Hornstar 06-08-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
It is not, and I'm telling! :p


ROFL the memories of school :D


Like I said earlier, instead of making a new section, they had to simply rename the old section to include 3.6

and then add the option for the author to be able to select what versions it works for.

Quite simple, and I'm sure it will get changed to this, as it will solve ALL problems.

Gio~Logist 06-08-2006 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
LOL... I guess you could say that. Because I'm tired of seeing the multitude of griping, complaining, fault-finding threads... and there are a multitude of them... and decided to say something... how many times? compared to the rest of you?

Hardly a comparison. Actually what I call me doing is defending the staff and leaders of this site. I wouldn't blame them if they got fed up and closed it down. Then where would y'all be.

Personally, vbhackers as well as my own sites :p. And i'll force you to come with me and then when you come i'll add some "fault-finding and nit-picking" threads just to bug you hehe :P

Ohiosweetheart 06-08-2006 11:49 PM

No thanks... I'll spend my time at vB-FAQ just as I do now, lol ;)

Boofo 06-09-2006 12:10 AM

And don't forget swooning the Boof!

Ohiosweetheart 06-09-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
And don't forget swooning the Boof!

always baby.... always https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Boofo 06-09-2006 12:14 AM

Oooohhh, I just felt a shiver, but a good one. :)

Gio~Logist 06-09-2006 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart

Are you flirting with boofo? Cheater!

Boofo 06-09-2006 12:16 AM

Yeah, like you could handle her. :confused:

Gio~Logist 06-09-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
Yeah, like you could handle her. :confused:

Younger and more energetic = i think i can :p Then again, her website does kind of make her a bit harder to handle perhaps.

Roms 06-09-2006 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
by finding fault with everything that the staff tries to do? right... I can just about guarantee they'll never find it.
.org has ceased to be a place to learn about and enhance your vBulleting board. It has become a fault-finding, nit-picking, playground. And that is not only my opinion. LOL...

If members have concerns it is OKAY to discuss them, we have time vested in our modifications and want to see that things are handled in a way that benefits everyone. I'll tell you what I find "fault-finding, nit-picking, playground" is when members try to discuss something and then someone turns it into another us against them discussion.

Lets keep on topic: Is there a valid reason to keep the 3.6 mod forums seperate from 3.5

noppid 06-09-2006 12:42 AM

I'll post again when I decide which side of this arguement will be more annonying to support.

For now, I'm having a white russian and LOL.

Boofo 06-09-2006 12:55 AM

I'm glad to see that we can always count on you to make things right again. :cross-eyed:

vBintense 06-09-2006 01:03 AM

I like the idea it has its own section due to not every thing will work with it, template changes as well as the small code changes do impact the add ons.

And with the new lay out of the modifications I do not see how it hurts anyone.

Ohiosweetheart 06-09-2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
Younger and more energetic = i think i can :p Then again, her website does kind of make her a bit harder to handle perhaps.

ohhh judging me by my website? tsk tsk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infantrymen
If members have concerns it is OKAY to discuss them, we have time vested in our modifications and want to see that things are handled in a way that benefits everyone. I'll tell you what I find "fault-finding, nit-picking, playground" is when members try to discuss something and then someone turns it into another us against them discussion.

Lets keep on topic: Is there a valid reason to keep the 3.6 mod forums seperate from 3.5

Just as you have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not the one who turned this into another "us against them" discussion... that was done before I posted here.

To answer your question, I'm sure the staff felt there was a valid reason. And it's done. Enjoy it

Quote:

Originally Posted by noppid
I'll post again when I decide which side of this arguement will be more annonying to support.

For now, I'm having a white russian and LOL.

annonying? how many of those have you had darlin'? lol

smacklan 06-09-2006 01:55 AM

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Oooohhh, I just felt a shiver, but a good one. :)

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noppid 06-09-2006 01:59 AM

Don't make me pull this car over!


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