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Brainwrek 06-01-2006 08:01 AM

What happened to the vBSpace post?
 
I was flipping from page 67 to 68 and *poof* it was gone. Am I blind?

Guest190829 06-01-2006 08:06 AM

The thread has been deleted as some things are being discussed. :)

Brainwrek 06-01-2006 08:27 AM

:angry:

Shaliza 06-01-2006 09:24 AM

At first, I thought it was the search feature messing up, but I went to the forum & it seems to have vanished faster than The Roadrunner.

vBintense 06-01-2006 09:25 AM

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117292" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=117292</a>

Is about all that has been said, it broke the TOS , then that came up...

Brent H 06-01-2006 09:27 AM

The same thing happened with the VBSEO thread, if I recall correctly. Some people didn't like the commercial aspect of the product and/or the way they did things in regards to said product, so here we are.

Zachery 06-01-2006 09:42 AM

:threads mereged:

Brent H 06-01-2006 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT
The thread has been deleted as some things are being discussed. :)

Do you mean actually deleted or just moved out of public view? There was a post in there by d1414 that I needed to show some of my staff.

Shaliza 06-01-2006 10:06 AM

Wow, crazy merge. At first, I thought someone somehow changed my post up & put in Brent's name.

I need coffee.

Nordinho 06-01-2006 10:19 AM

Hmm..apparently I missed something...couldn't the offending posts just have been deleted?? The thread 'was' pretty usefull...

vBintense 06-01-2006 10:23 AM

The one in charge of the hack was who broke TOS. That is why the thread was removed.

ronoxQ 06-01-2006 10:26 AM

How was TOS broken?

And was this hack removed by the creator or by one of the mods?

Brent H 06-01-2006 11:03 AM

I'm not quite sure, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the product becoming something more commercial than most were expecting.

Brad 06-01-2006 11:22 AM

The ultimate fate of that thread will be decided soon, at this point I've moved it to a private forum for staff review.

influence 06-01-2006 11:53 AM

it was a useless thread anyway, they were only teasing people with it and still on beta 1 and not to mention only god knows when in 07 they will be releasing it.

Trana 06-01-2006 01:35 PM

This just gets weirder and weirder.

AZhitman 06-01-2006 02:28 PM

^ Indeed...

As a Big-Boards owner who is considering a switch to running my forums on vBulletin, I've got to admit this "moving of threads" is not having a positive influence on my decision-making.

Hopefully it returns soon, there was some good dialogue going on.

friendly 06-01-2006 02:30 PM

With the way things are going, I suggest those involved provide a better sense of when it will be released, so those of us who want to give it a shot can decide if we should wait or move on.
I'd much rather be told that vbspace would be released in a year, instead of holding on the the idea that it would be rolled out "some day."

rabidkevin 06-01-2006 02:59 PM

I too am highly disappointed in being mislead. My community serves such a distinct group of people in las vegas only that remote profile hosting would not benefit me at all. i just wanted to beef up the profiles, member search, add a little group feature, comment system, friends list etc is that so hard to ask? I'd pay good money for a simplistic beef up of VB with features in high demand. I would have hired a private mod developer 6 months ago if I would have known this.

I do not mind the directory idea, drop the remote profile system and I'd use it.

d1414 06-01-2006 03:09 PM

Rather than arguing let me ask this:

What can we do to make this situation right? What can we do to make as many of you happy as possible?

d1414 06-01-2006 03:16 PM

RonoxQ is NOT an employee or representative of our company. He's a nice guy I showed the system to who likes it. I wanted to clarify that.

The point of this system is to bring people together. It is breaking my heart that it's doing quite the opposite right now. I can understand how some of you feel misled. If I had to do it all over again, we would have stopped updating the vbspace thread. Disappointing you guys was the last thing we wanted to do.

At this point, what is done is done. What can we do to help rectify this situation?

friendly 06-01-2006 03:21 PM

I've worked with private label solutions that allow remotely hosted content to be included on domains or sub domains.
Would this be possible with vbspace? -- some kind of web services/API solution.

Chris M 06-01-2006 03:22 PM

I have removed the argumentative and personally attacking posts from within this thread...

Please do not continue this any further :)

Chris

Krahl 06-01-2006 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
RonoxQ is NOT an employee or representative of our company. He's a nice guy I showed the system to who likes it. I wanted to clarify that.

The point of this system is to bring people together. It is breaking my heart that it's doing quite the opposite right now. I can understand how some of you feel misled. If I had to do it all over again, we would have stopped updating the vbspace thread. Disappointing you guys was the last thing we wanted to do.

At this point, what is done is done. What can we do to help rectify this situation?

Umm, release some actual information? Your underhanded methods of doing this is what the BIGGEST problem is, in my opinion - and I was a lurker on the VBSpace thread, hoping it would eventually see the light of day as my community could really use something like that as well.

Taking ANY form of control from a site owner/staff is a no-no unless they know 100% what is happening prior to that loss of control.

It's really too bad you guys chose to handle this in the fashion you did - even in the form it is in WITH the loss of control, it might have been far more successful if we didn't feel like you broke our trust by hiding the real intent of your product.

I'm sure you're not bad guys or anything but let's face it, trust is a lot harder to gain back than lose. Owners that would be wary of giving you control over areas of their site will now be doubly wary of you due to your chosen path.

That's my take at least. Thanks for hopefully trying to steer things back on track for your product, but it's probably too late for many of us at least until we have some seriously hard facts to draw from.

Krahl

d1414 06-01-2006 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
I've worked with private label solutions that allow remotely hosted content to be included on domains or sub domains.
Would this be possible with vbspace?

Sorry I missed you on Google Chat, i'm new to it and got confused!

Can you elaborate on what you mean by what you said. Do you mean music labels who let you link to thier content? Or?

ronoxQ 06-01-2006 03:25 PM

Sure thing, Chris. My apologies to anybody I've offended. I'm still willing to answer questions, though, if anybody cares to ask: my site isn't using this, though, I've just toured the network, so my answers aren't always going to be just what you need.

Friendly- from what I've seen, this isn't YET a feature that vbSpace has. I for one think it would be a good idea.

However, there are some autoalias programs out there (I use one for my site right now, though for other stuff) that could probably put profiles from this onto a subdomain of your site. If you want, I'll PM you with a link to the one that I use.

d1414- I think he means making profiles appear in a subdomain on a forum's main site. As in, my profile right now could be found on, say, ronoxq.omegaseye.com.

rabidkevin 06-01-2006 03:28 PM

It's pretty clear what a lot of people want; to keep their communities independent.

friendly 06-01-2006 03:29 PM

NP, I've got to run soon, anyway.
What I mean is something like infospace does:
http://www.infospaceinc.com/search/privatelabel.php


Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
Sorry I missed you on Google Chat, i'm new to it and got confused!

Can you elaborate on what you mean by what you said. Do you mean music labels who let you link to thier content? Or?


ronoxQ 06-01-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabidkevin
It's pretty clear what a lot of people want; to keep their communities independent.

I don't think they'll object to how vB Space runs this. All I can say on that for now, but it's true.

d1414 06-01-2006 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
NP, I've got to run soon, anyway.
What I mean is something like infospace does:
http://www.infospaceinc.com/search/privatelabel.php

Ah, no. You can't integrate a system like that, sorry.

friendly 06-01-2006 03:33 PM

Basically, Infospace feeds its search content to other sites like AOL and Excite but the content looks like it resides on those sites. Astrology.com has a similar set up.

Or it could be where websites are given unique subdomains on the centralized domain.
mysite.whatevervbspacewillbecome.com

d1414 06-01-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
Or it could be where websites are given unique subdomains on the centralized domain.
mysite.whatevervbspacewillbecome.com

Yes, that's what you get. YourPersonalUsername.Site.com

KevNJ 06-01-2006 03:39 PM

Post 24 and post 27 are my thoughts as well. Cept I havent been to nice about voicing my opinion on this matter, for that Im sorry.

d1414 06-01-2006 03:44 PM

Maybe we could make a vbspace lite for those of you who just want the local install? No promises, but I *think* we could cut things down (its over 75,000 lines of code at this point heheh) and create a viable solution. I'd have to talk it over with our engineers first of course.

What would be the MAIN features you'd want in this so I can provide a spec sheet and see what it would take.

And it would of course be free.

friendly 06-01-2006 03:45 PM

Hmmm... that's different...
let me look for a better example. There's a dating service that does this whose name escapes me at the moment. I'll search and return.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
Yes, that's what you get. YourPersonalUsername.Site.com


Kroby 06-01-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
Rather than arguing let me ask this:

What can we do to make this situation right? What can we do to make as many of you happy as possible?

1) open a forum somewhere an the net
2) open a thread by one of you many communauty joigned this project

3) take 2 version from you produc: 1 centralised for people who make busines
and one standalone for non profit or non commercial site, with a licence who say that no ads are aloowed ..

Perhap's one of this is a solution :)

KevNJ 06-01-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
Maybe we could make a vbspace lite for those of you who just want the local install? No promises, but I *think* we could cut things down (its over 75,000 lines of code at this point heheh) and create a viable solution. I'd have to talk it over with our engineers first of course.

What would be the MAIN features you'd want in this?

And it would of course be free.

yikes i remember your post saying 42,000. Dayyyyyum...

1:1 myspace clone - non centralized. :cool: ( sorry beign a smart a$$ )

but 75,000 lines.... holy cr@p batman!

friendly 06-01-2006 03:48 PM

David, don't go against your own ideas. Stick with what you're passionate about. It's better to perfect one thing than to try to appease everyone and lose sight of quality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1414
Maybe we could make a vbspace lite for those of you who just want the local install? No promises, but I *think* we could cut things down (its over 75,000 lines of code at this point heheh) and create a viable solution. I'd have to talk it over with our engineers first of course.

What would be the MAIN features you'd want in this?

And it would of course be free.


d1414 06-01-2006 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friendly
David, don't go against your own ideas. Stick with what you're passionate about. It's better to perfect one thing than to try to appease everyone and lose sight of quality.

Definitely not. The main system would be our focus. And i'd be sticking to what i'm passionate about: communities :)

Honestly, I just want to help communities succeed.

friendly 06-01-2006 03:55 PM

okay.. ++++edCompany uses FastCupid (formerly Spring Street ) to power it's dating section.
http://personals.++++edcompany.com/

*apologies for the name... it's not an adult site (at the f word)


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