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shockx5 05-21-2006 12:18 AM

Hacks wiping my board
 
Well its a complicated situation at the site I help run, the webmaster who has access to database and all the stuff you really need access to never pays attention to the forums. So for a year I've been trying to keep them alive, a lot of the time the thread table would corrupt and all the threads would dissappear, so constant wipes every month started occuring. All I had was FTP access to the site, no vb.com info for a reinstall or anything. I finally got the info I needed to reinstall it and now the boards are up. But the last few wipes of the threads were because of hacks that were installed...id upload the product then goto the forums and the threads were either empty or labeled invalid. And this didn't happen to all the hacks I uploaded...it was really really strange. And I'm not an expert at this stuff so its very frustrating being left in the dark without support.

My webmaster friend (who knows so much more than me about databases and stuff) suggested the reinstall (full database wipe), so i did that. But now I'm weary of running any kind of plug-in. I installed them all before I opened the forums. But the members want more stuff to be added, and so do I. But I am so weary of the wipes, this is a board with thousands of members and they've had to endure so many things I don't wanna put them through it anymore.

So what I'm asking is do any of you know what might be happening? And do you think it might happen again if I install more things. Keep in mind the errors weren't caused by hacks, its just the last two wipes were caused by that. I still don't know what the heck was wrong. So any help/advice is greatly appreciated.

And I don't know if I posted this in the right area or not, so all I'll say is this: :banana:

Boofo 05-21-2006 01:18 AM

Where did you get the hacks from that were causing the wipes?

shockx5 05-21-2006 02:51 AM

I got em here.

one was the show new reps, and the other was the advanced warning system. But I don't think they are the reason...i mean yeah they caused it but there was probably some other problem.

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:01 AM

I'm sure the hacks themselves had nothing to do with wiping anything. Others have used both of those hacks with no such problem arising from them.

It might have been a bad install, as we all have done a time or to. I still tend to screw up the tiniest things when installing a hack, but the product system helps alleviate a lot of it these days. If I don't touch the code, I can't mess it up type of thing. ;)

As good as the product system is, we are still going to get those hacks that don't play nice with other hacks. It can't be avoided all the time. ;)

shockx5 05-21-2006 03:09 AM

So your saying go ahead and just pray lol?


Cause I can't make backups...its such a unique and crappy situation :(

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:13 AM

No, I'm saying if there is a problem, it isn't necessarily those 2 hacks causing it.

And in coding, praying never works, Take a look at a few of my crappy hacks and you'll see what praying causes. ;)

Have you tried LiveWire's databack hack for backing up the db automatically?

Freesteyelz 05-21-2006 03:19 AM

Disable the hacks and start from there.

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:24 AM

I was going under the assumption that he already did. Maybe I misunderstood. :cross-eyed: (Hard to believe that could happen, though.) ;)

shockx5 05-21-2006 03:29 AM

Yeah I wiped the forums and reinstalled the hacks i wanted before reopening it. But the forums had been having problems before a hack was ever installed (late last year).

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockx5
Yeah I wiped the forums and reinstalled the hacks i wanted before reopening it. But the forums had been having problems before a hack was ever installed (late last year).

Have you checked with your host to see if they can help you figure out what might be happening? I would start there.

shockx5 05-21-2006 03:34 AM

See the thing is i cant, the REAL webmaster doesnt give a crap about the site anymore but will gladly take his paycheck and no do anything with the site in general (theres a main news site). So i dont know who the webhost is, or any of that stuff. Im actually just a poster there but im helping the admin there make the site run cause i had experience from another site.

so yeah...its really an odd crappy situation

Freesteyelz 05-21-2006 03:40 AM

*Looks to Boofo for the solution* :D

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
*Looks to Boofo for the solution* :D

Bail out and make his own site for news from scratch?

shockx5 05-21-2006 03:49 AM

and lose the prowrestling.com name? HA! that name alone is worth thousands of dollars. i just wish the site could be run by someone who cares :( he says he cares but hes too busy being a subway manager i guess.

Boofo 05-21-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockx5
and lose the prowrestling.com name? HA! that name alone is worth thousands of dollars. i just wish the site could be run by someone who cares :( he says he cares but hes too busy being a subway manager i guess.

Think about it. If you are the only thing holding the site together right now and you bail, it goes all to hell and he loses out. Then it should be up for grabs. ;)

Zachery 05-21-2006 03:52 AM

What version of mysql is your host running?

shockx5 05-21-2006 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
Think about it. If you are the only thing holding the site together right now and you bail, it goes all to hell and he loses out. Then it should be up for grabs. ;)

lol im the only thing keeping the forums together, the main site im sure is being held together fine as it doesnt HAVE to be constantly updated since it has an auto newsboard. but some things have to be updated by the lazy admin (like news and stuff)

but the sites gets 100,000 unique hits at least in whatever time period you wanna say. the forums get less but still get thousands. i just think the site is set up poorly and needs to be completely redone :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
What version of mysql is your host running?

Server Type: FreeBSD
Web Server: Apache
PHP: 5.0.5
PHP Max Post Size: 8.00 MB
PHP Maximum Upload Size: 2.00 MB
MySQL Version: 4.0.22-standard-log
MySQL Packet Size: 1,023.0 KB


yo~!

Freesteyelz 05-21-2006 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
Bail out and make his own site for news from scratch?

You got it. ;)

Zachery 05-21-2006 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockx5
lol im the only thing keeping the forums together, the main site im sure is being held together fine as it doesnt HAVE to be constantly updated since it has an auto newsboard. but some things have to be updated by the lazy admin (like news and stuff)

but the sites gets 100,000 unique hits at least in whatever time period you wanna say. the forums get less but still get thousands. i just think the site is set up poorly and needs to be completely redone :(


Server Type: FreeBSD
Web Server: Apache
PHP: 5.0.5
PHP Max Post Size: 8.00 MB
PHP Maximum Upload Size: 2.00 MB
MySQL Version: 4.0.22-standard-log
MySQL Packet Size: 1,023.0 KB


yo~!

Ask them to upgrade both php and mysql, mysql is out of date by a few version mysql 4.0.25 and 26 are considered stable, but they are the last of the mysql 4.0 serries, 4.1.x or 5.0.x would be better. and php 5.0 is a nightmare, php 5.1.x is a solid serries.

shockx5 05-22-2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Ask them to upgrade both php and mysql, mysql is out of date by a few version mysql 4.0.25 and 26 are considered stable, but they are the last of the mysql 4.0 serries, 4.1.x or 5.0.x would be better. and php 5.0 is a nightmare, php 5.1.x is a solid serries.

well speak of the devil the dude did something and upgraded to 5.1.2 php


mysql is still the same. so you think if that stuff is uptodate the forums might not wipe and function better (in theory of course)


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