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stonyarc 05-15-2006 07:26 PM

Vbulletin Wordpress
 
All,

I started working on a mod that will allow you to get users a full blown wordpress blog (one per users).

Planning is to allow only a certain usergroup. If added to the group the script would generate a full installation set (seperate tableprefix per user) to allow multiple installs of wordpress on the same domain.

So far it's looking good.

I'm creating this for xboxusersgroup.com and stonyarc.com but I was wondering if people are interested in this functionality.

Just let me know.

/@mod

please edit the typo in the thread title
Thank you

davidw 05-15-2006 08:26 PM

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moonclamp 05-15-2006 09:10 PM

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I use wordpress already so I am very much interested in this.

Mr Chad 05-15-2006 09:19 PM

Yes Yes and Yes :)

nytxn 05-15-2006 09:49 PM

We have Wordpress and are using the audio functionality on it, so I'm interested in hearing more.

Ohiosweetheart 05-15-2006 09:56 PM

yes yes yes yes Yes Yes Yes YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I have a blog now and I've wondered where to find a script that would let me offer a blog to paid subscribers. Im waitingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg... :D

*subscribed*

stonyarc 05-15-2006 10:05 PM

Don't forget this isn't a bridge or generation but a blog rendering for creating a blog farm linked to vbulletin.

That's the idea I'm working on now.

A link to that blog isn't the issue to solve. That's easy enough.

Ohiosweetheart 05-16-2006 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
Don't forget this isn't a bridge or generation but a blog rendering for creating a blog farm linked to vbulletin.

That's the idea I'm working on now.

A link to that blog isn't the issue to solve. That's easy enough.

ok, I'm not real sure what you just said, but it sounds exciting anyway, lol

Rich 05-16-2006 02:32 PM

Not sure of it interests anyone here, but the Drupal modification allows you to give users a blog on your site and it uses permissions already. It also works 100% right now as I have it installed on a site I am working on.

davidw 05-16-2006 08:44 PM

I have my own differing opinion of Drupal which I care not to discuss.

stonyarc 05-16-2006 09:50 PM

I want the user to be full admin of the blog he gets.

so that's the starting point

However from within vbulletin I want to be able to push new settings to all blogs that were created. (update engine)

Ohiosweetheart 05-17-2006 01:52 AM

this sounds excellent stony. Did you know that wordpress has Wordpress-MU (multiple-users)? Only thing about it is that it's not supported on the wordpress support forums and at this time, there are no themes created for it. So I'm assuming it's rather new?

I hope you get this up and going soon stony, my members are rather anxious to blog

C'mon.. there has to be more people interested in this hack...

stonyarc 05-17-2006 07:06 PM

I hope some more people would show interest in this. I think it would be a major addon.

Ohiosweetheart 05-17-2006 07:15 PM

I'm sure they will when it is released. I've talked to several people on other sites who don't come to vb.org often and they are definitely interested.

How soon do you think this could conceivably be released stony?

Rich 05-17-2006 07:20 PM

Stony, the idea is great and you would get a ton of installs once it were complete. Most people, myself included, don't normally respond to these types of threads because the work doesn't always prevail after everyone has voiced their "support".

Blog software integrated completely with vb would be great and used by many.

stonyarc 05-17-2006 07:24 PM

I'm currently testing some of the basic functions but there is a lot to tackle in this one

- Core functions
- tables in mysql database (too much will kill the service)
- password generation
- automatic php config file edit on assignment
- wp update engine from within vb
- admincp functions
- wp style functions
- new version control
- integration in postbit/member pages
- ...

The use of MU isn't an option for these functions. I want users/blogadmins to have enough freedom and only manage it from vb on high level.

Timeline is as always with my mods ASAP because I need the functionality too.

Also should I go for seperate databases or use the vbulletin one. Not everyone has access to more than one DB on the server.

Rich 05-17-2006 08:02 PM

You should have it use the existing db and why do you need password generation if it is going to use the users permissions? If they have an account already, no password required. I haven't used wordpress yet so I don't know if they have "profiles". If they do, I would drop them and use the default vb profiles.

stonyarc 05-17-2006 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
You should have it use the existing db and why do you need password generation if it is going to use the users permissions? If they have an account already, no password required. I haven't used wordpress yet so I don't know if they have "profiles". If they do, I would drop them and use the default vb profiles.

The profiles isn't a real big issue.

Wordpress is a fully seperate application so it would remain like that.

I want to make so that vbulletin installs a wordpress for a specified users so that the user has it's own blog application on a subdir.

It's 1 user 1 wordpress and not N users on 1 wordpress.

My mod is creating a blogfarm not a single blog.

Rich 05-17-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Wordpress is a fully seperate application so it would remain like that.
If the users need to register for the blog and the forum, it won't be as popular as I initially stated. I was under the impression you were integrating it. Basically, when a user joins your forums they also have registered with the blogs. The blogs would be controlled via user permissions like Drupal is.

X usergroup can have a blog
X can't have a blog

Basically I thought this was going to become a vBlog type application. One wordpress that allows multiple blogs based on who has the right permissions.

stonyarc 05-17-2006 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
If the users need to register for the blog and the forum, it won't be as popular as I initially stated. I was under the impression you were integrating it. Basically, when a user joins your forums they also have registered with the blogs. The blogs would be controlled via user permissions like Drupal is.

X usergroup can have a blog
X can't have a blog

Basically I thought this was going to become a vBlog type application. One wordpress that allows multiple blogs based on who has the right permissions.

1 MU isn't far enough to support that
2 the core version of WP should be used as that's the one that is supported

I want

1 manageable blogs from admincp wordpress based but fully functional.
2 1 user 1 blog or 1 usergroup 1 blog principle
3 no seperate registration (the database/datamodel I currently made is integrated)
4 file update and version control on all the installed blogs so you can push a certain page/ad/update/style/patch to all blogs at once
5 vbulletin becomes the dashboard/management console of the wordpress farm
6 best of both
7 compatible with updates of wordpress (push from within vbulletin update engine)
8 ....

Rich 05-17-2006 09:11 PM

One of the things users are going to seek from this is the use of usergroup permissions. I am not certain by what you have written if that is a function that will be of use.

Currently there is the Journal modification by Andreas that is fully integrated but has limited functionality and then there is Drupal which is also integrated rather well, but styling it is a +++++. (Especially with what I am doing with it.)

Users are looking for an integrated solution for blogging where they control via permissions who gets what and how that has both style and functionality. I believe one of the mods is currently working on a vBblogs application of sorts. (From this site.)

I myself don't know the benefits of wordpress as I haven't used it yet.

davidw 05-17-2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
I want to make so that vbulletin installs a wordpress for a specified users so that the user has it's own blog application on a subdir.

It's 1 user 1 wordpress and not N users on 1 wordpress.

My mod is creating a blogfarm not a single blog.

THIS is what I'm desiring.

Ohiosweetheart 05-17-2006 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
I want to make so that vbulletin installs a wordpress for a specified users so that the user has it's own blog application on a subdir.

It's 1 user 1 wordpress and not N users on 1 wordpress.

My mod is creating a blogfarm not a single blog.

yes this is what I was assuming you were talking about.
With the assumption that only a certain usergroup will have access... correct?

I would prefer to use a separate db from the forum db tho. Is that not feasible? Most hosting accounts allow more than one db, from what I've seen

stonyarc 05-18-2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
yes this is what I was assuming you were talking about.
With the assumption that only a certain usergroup will have access... correct?

I would prefer to use a separate db from the forum db tho. Is that not feasible? Most hosting accounts allow more than one db, from what I've seen

That problem is already solved. It works on both.

Ohiosweetheart 05-18-2006 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
That problem is already solved. It works on both.

yaayyy you're wonderful! :banana:

stinger2 05-18-2006 12:00 PM

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Ohiosweetheart 05-18-2006 03:48 PM

yaayyy there's another one! :D

nwingate 05-18-2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinger2
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Ditto

stonyarc 05-18-2006 04:36 PM

I'll put this a bit higher on the priority list of things to do.

I have a lot of Xbox related stuff going on lately but I'll see what's possible.

Ohiosweetheart 05-18-2006 04:42 PM

yippeee!

*OSH is a happy camper*

wizardan 05-18-2006 06:32 PM

I'm in.
I was actually looking at a Wordpress script today that is included in my server package.
I'd much prefer to be able to offer my members a forums integrated blog, without need for an extra registration, etc...

I've looked an the Journal mod that was touched upon earlier in this thread.
My php version sadly doesn't support it.

I absolutely admire your work, stonyarc, and will wait to see how this develops.

Ohiosweetheart 05-19-2006 05:44 PM

yaayyy and another :)

Annapurna 05-19-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
I'm creating this for xboxusersgroup.com and stonyarc.com but I was wondering if people are interested in this functionality.

Just let me know.

Absolutely! Go on for it!
Andreas

Ohiosweetheart 05-19-2006 06:06 PM

yaaaaaaaaaayyyy!!


Stony, do I get the job as chief cheerleader, yet??

stinger2 05-20-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
Stony, do I get the job as chief cheerleader, yet??

chief cheerleader....ofcourse:D

stonyarc 05-20-2006 04:16 PM

Sure you can :rolleyes:

Just a little status update

PROTOTYPE SCRIPTS => WORKING !!!!!!

So what works:

- php script that copies the source wordpress to a directory of choice
- php script that creates a correct config file for that new specific user
- php script that does a unattended install of wordpress based on the new config file
- core settings tables for the new tool
- core main table for the new tool
- new database or existing database isn't an issue anymore

These are the core scripts needed. They all work standalone in native php (non-vbulletin)

Left to do:
Create the vbulletin application
Create the interaction between all these scripts
Create the vbulletin settings admincp pages
Create an easy to use process
Create the interfaces
Create the usergroup logical design (who can have one and why)

But so far so good

remark:
- Your host must support php cURL for this (normally quite common) but you can already check by clicking the phpinfo link in admincp navigation (bottom left)
- each blog installed means 10 tables in your database so be ready for it if you want a lot of users to have it

release planning: Hey don't push it :cool:

soulface 05-20-2006 06:06 PM

Simple gr8, go on stonyarc. im with you, even if you make it a paid hack (in case) :p

Ohiosweetheart 05-20-2006 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulface
Simple gr8, go on stonyarc. im with you, even if you make it a paid hack (in case) :p

ssssssshhh don't say that, I can't afford it! (newly divorced mom here)

It's sounding good stonyarc.
Uh, did you say that each blog created will add 10 tables to my existing database??

Waiting not so patiently!

stonyarc 05-20-2006 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart
ssssssshhh don't say that, I can't afford it! (newly divorced mom here)

It's sounding good stonyarc.
Uh, did you say that each blog created will add 10 tables to my existing database??

Waiting not so patiently!

It's logical. Vbulletin is also 150 tables or so

As you need an install for each blog it's logical. Don't you think that other real blogspaces work like that.

I could fix it but that would mean rewriting wordpress like they have been trying with wordpressMU and it still doesn't work correctly after a very long time of development.

Ohiosweetheart 05-20-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonyarc
It's logical. Vbulletin is also 150 tables or so

As you need an install for each blog it's logical. Don't you think that other real blogspaces work like that.

I could fix it but that would mean rewriting wordpress like they have been trying with wordpressMU and it still doesn't work correctly after a very long time of development.

ok ok... I just panicked for a moment, don't mind me ;)
carry on!


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