May Hack of the Month pulled...
 

Just curious, since I was in it :(

Due to current events taking place, it has been decided to remove this month's HOTM thread, and the users hacks which are not in question will be added back when the thread is restored after the new candidates have been added...

Chris

Guess I need to edit my sig ;)

I finally get my hack in this poll with a semi chance to win and you pull it? Why make others suffer on a rule that staff just created today out of no where!

lol, does seem a bit wrong to punish everyone.

Punishment is not the issue here - Fairness is...

Chris

So you find it fair to take me out of the running when I did nothing wrong? According to your TOS I have did nothing wrong.

The last time someone broke the rules when there hack was apart of the poll. Staff just took that hack out of the poll, not delete the whole friggen thing.

I still don't get why it was removed

Unless all of the hacks had hidden code, i'm not sure how you're being fair to anyone bar the authors? i wouldn't even say you're being fair to the end user who uses HOTM as a means of awareness.

vBorg just keeps fueling the fire around here.

As I said, it's about fairness - If you are innocent of any of the current issues being discussed then you have nothing to worry about - Your hack will be added back to the following month's HOTM poll :)

Chris

Some of the hacks within the poll have this code within them - Since a decision has not yet been reached as to how to proceed with such hacks, removing them half way through the poll when a decision has been reached, and therefore enraging users who have already voted for those removed, and cannot then transfer their vote to another hack would cause alot more problems than simply eradicating it before the issue arises, and adding you to the next HOTM...

Chris

Thats compleley unfair. The way HOTM works now is that users that use these hacks THIS month get the opportunity to vote for the nominees. Why would I want my hack added to Junes poll when by then, other hacks have been created within that period of time. I only seen one hack in that poll that broke this new rule.

Just because they have been created does not mean they will get in the HOTM thread - The HOTM system is changing for the better...

Chris

So the HOTM was quitted now because it contained hidden codes?What kinds

But then if i release a hack next month, i'm penalised. This is in no way just, you can say it's something you had to do but you can't dress it up as just, that's wrong IMO.

This is total BS. NEVER ONCE did anyone inform me that my hack was being removed from the poll. I did nothing wrong and find it completley unfair that I and the rest of the nominees have to suffer for a new rule that has gone into effect.

Only one hack had broke this new rule, and this HOTM was posted BEFORE this new rule went into effect. So in theroy, Paul M has done nothing wrong, he followed all the guidlines and desverve to still be apart of the running.

HOTM posted on: May 15, 2006 at 1:00am
New Rule Posted on: May 15, 2006 at 05:59 AM

Crappy.......Really crappy.Still don't get why would someone do it unless it is a biiiiiiiig board.Just for fun

From what i can gather as i waste time away upon this Monday Evening, it clicked install for you.

BTW: It's still on the portal page. You get an access denied message.

I'm sure one of the Admins will address this when they see it :)

@LiveWire - That is not the collective view of the staff here at this site...

It has been removed, that is all there is to it - Whether the HOTM thread is restored in the next few days with the questionable modifications removed from the Poll or not, depends on what we decide to do with it as a staff team - However, for now, to prevent future complaints it has been removed...

Chris

er - why not just remove the 'deadly, man eating, flesh rotting virus ridden' hacks in question and replace them with the 'runners' up?
Lumping them in to next month will bump legitiamte nominees. This way gives other users a chance to get some of that .org love thats been going around lately.

lol your getting more complants by removing it. I take back what I said about one hack breaking the new rule. It was 2 hacks. Never the less, both hacks were posted and created and made it to the poll before this went into effect. So since your just being fair and all, are you going to pull Atakan KOC HOTM reward now for last month?

Sounds really fair to me... Are you going to compensate us for the days lost? I've been trying to get my hack into the HOTM and I finally do, and now all this happens.

That is possibly what will happen, however while the thread remains active and the decision made, more and more votes are made for the hacks for removal, and the runners-up then have a disadvantaged start a couple of days later...

This way, if the thread is restored with the runners-up, we have a fairly more even keel of voting :)

Chris

If the thread is restored, you will have lost maybe 2 or 3 days of voting - At least nobody can continue to vote on the Poll meaning you are disadvantaged...

If the thread is not restored, you will be added to the following month's poll...

Chris

Adding me to the next months polls is unfair to the users who could have made it in that months poll. You don't seem to understand. Some of us users create a hack in hopes to make it to the poll. Since this is one of the only thing we have that gives use a little spotlight. To just take things down without informing us and hurting others chance to win or get nominated, is just wrong.

Why hasnt the staff did what they did last time and remove the hacks from the poll? Why should those hacks even be penilised for a rule they had no clue about?

quoted for truth

So you would rather we left it and then tore the thread and votes apart and have the community and hackers in uproar, therefore belittling and making any victory of a deserved winner almost seem like the others were cheated???

As I said, this HOTM may be restored with the runners-up - It is not gone, simply removed from the public eye for the time being...

Chris

Hey, I may be the voice of decent here, but it seems to me that we had a big deal a little while ago about someone linking something in there sig directly to the install button.

It seems logical to me that if such a thing was frowned on, then code in a hack that does the same would also be frowned on. I'm not sure "didn't break an existing rule" is accurate.

nope heres whats should have been done...

NOTHING!

You shouldn't have done a damm thing. NO ONE has broken ANY rules since that poll was created and even before that poll was created.

i'm saying if you make a rule after the poll has been posted it shouldn't affect the poll, however if it MUST then it must. however to penalise those users and the (month) following users is wrong.

the solution shouldn't effect two month worth of users.

If you read what I had said, it shouldn't and may not still - I am hoping we can have it restored with the runners up and have the HOTM continue somewhat as normal...

Chris

Okay Hambil makes a good point... Heres the solution... take the hacks out of the running, or PM the user about the new rule and ask them to remove the code or there hack will be removed from the poll and the forums. If that was the case, then I guess the mods would have alittle bit of work to do to keep the polls fair.

No one is being penialized, except for the hacks in question. The poll has been removed temporarily, so the Staff can discuss what to do with the poll. LiveWire, you will be compensated for what is happening. We understand that you are innocent here, and your hack will not be forgotten as we decide what to do with the poll.

I'm sure I can count on the staff to do the right thing. :rolleyes:

Want me to fix your dodgy eyes? :p

I'm sure they can be fixed with a bit of araldite :D

Chris

I'm sorry but I don't find much humor in this anymore.

The facts are this:

• A new rule was created because of Paul and a few others
• You talked about this in your private forums. (probably more like bashed on these users)
• No one was ever contacted about this new up coming rule, at least take a moment to inform the users about the new rule that were currenly breaking the new rule and give them the chance to remove the code.
• These hacks were created before this rule went into effect
• 2 months ago you removed a hack from the poll, not the whole poll. You guys had to clean up a little mess, but thats what mods do. Cry me a river.
• You remove the poll with out informing any of the users on here.

You always stress to us to contact you in a pm, blah blah blah, if you have an issue, send a pm.. blah blah blah.. Yet you fail to use it yourselfs. I don't get that.

Considering the time between the removal of the thread and the time when this post was created was less than 5 minutes, composing a PM to the members involved is not as simply done as a click of the fingers ;)

Chris

This doesn't rule out that the fact that you never PMed the offending users. Why can't you guess just freaking admit when you do things sloppy. (this isn't towards you peronally Chris, but the staff as a whole)