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Injektilo 03-20-2006 02:57 PM

Fed up with...
 
I feel that installing 3.5 vbulleting on my website was my biggest mistake. Ever since, i am facing new problems day by day. But my biggest problems would have to do with the whole process been used by the vbulletin system. I've changed 4 hosting providers so far, and i thought it was always their fault for these problems, until i bought a Virtual Private Server recently and now, i have the same problems!

It seems that vb3.5 is heavy on servers, as i am running a large board with some extra features like arcades,chat and gallery

Is there a way to downgrade to a previous version other than vb3.5.x ?

If i export tables via impex or something...and install vb3.0.9 and import?

Borgs8472 03-20-2006 03:03 PM

What exactly is your bottlenext? The sql database speed? The bandwith used? There are a few compression and optimisation hacks about you might want to try.

Trigunflame 03-20-2006 03:36 PM

You have to realize that the majority of hacks coded on this site performance wise are poorly coded; and as you stack them it will progressively get worse Specially on large sites.

Vbulletin itself however is not that intensive, IF you make the proper modifications in the Option Configuration.

Feel free to AIM me at Trigunflame / MSN at trigunflame@msn.com if you want more information.

pcoskat 03-20-2006 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
It seems that vb3.5 is heavy on servers, as i am running a large board with some extra features like arcades,chat and gallery

How large is your board?

I started having the EXACT same problems you speak of, as my membership got over 25,000. The servers just couldn't keep up. BUT I realized the problem was in the server configuration, and to a certain extent the optimization of the board.

You need a host who knows precisely what they're doing to support your large board. I was with two very expensive hosting companies and they were clueless. Now I'm with a company that isn't 'cheap', but they are reasonable for what I need, and now with over 30,000 members, my server is handling my traffic without breaking a sweat.

ETA
I have a ton of mods and hacks, too.

DirectPixel 03-20-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
I feel that installing 3.5 vbulleting on my website was my biggest mistake. Ever since, i am facing new problems day by day. But my biggest problems would have to do with the whole process been used by the vbulletin system. I've changed 4 hosting providers so far, and i thought it was always their fault for these problems, until i bought a Virtual Private Server recently and now, i have the same problems!

It seems that vb3.5 is heavy on servers, as i am running a large board with some extra features like arcades,chat and gallery

Is there a way to downgrade to a previous version other than vb3.5.x ?

If i export tables via impex or something...and install vb3.0.9 and import?

Are you sure the problem is with vBulletin and not with your hacks?

As mentioned by Trigunflame, because of the open nature of the vBulletin.org website, just about anyone can write a vBulletin hack and make it available for others to use. As a result, there may be hacks that can significantly slow down your system.

Injektilo 03-20-2006 05:31 PM

i am using only, ibproarcade, flashchat, and vbShout... these hacks seem to work well on other boards i've seen :|

i am starting to think about the vbshout... it is on the forumhome...does it open a connection for all members browsing the forumhome? If this is true, then vbshout is not suitable for large boards

Paul M 03-20-2006 05:49 PM

Do you mean the site listed in your profile ?

Threads: 3,334, Posts: 66,924, Members: 1,729

Because if you do, then you must have a big problem somewhere because that site should easily run on a small server.

Injektilo 03-20-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Do you mean the site listed in your profile ?

Threads: 3,334, Posts: 66,924, Members: 1,729

Because if you do, then you must have a big problem somewhere because that site should easily run on a small server.

but it doesnt! :( that is what troubles me... Before i had 5.000 members on vb3.0.7 but after a 'problem' with a hosting company, i've installed from scratch vb3.5 and even with 1.700 members it seems too heavy on the server :|

Trana 03-20-2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
i am starting to think about the vbshout... it is on the forumhome...does it open a connection for all members browsing the forumhome? If this is true, then vbshout is not suitable for large boards

Ha! Thats definately the problem. VBShout is a HUGE resource hog. Turn down the updates and the performance will improve.

Injektilo 03-20-2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trana
Ha! Thats definately the problem. VBShout is a HUGE resource hog. Turn down the updates and the performance will improve.


by updates you mean refresh rate? There is no such option in vbshout i think :|

Trana 03-20-2006 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
by updates you mean refresh rate? There is no such option in vbshout i think :|

Have you read any of the VBShout threads? That would be a good place to start.

Injektilo 03-20-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trana
Have you read any of the VBShout threads? That would be a good place to start.


i am lost along the many threads... can u be so kind and direct me plz? :)

Zachery 03-20-2006 09:29 PM

Why do ytou need a chat, and a shjoutbox? The 3.5 shoutboxes are known for preformance issues, try disabling it all together.

Corriewf 03-20-2006 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
i am using only, ibproarcade, flashchat, and vbShout... these hacks seem to work well on other boards i've seen :|


i am starting to think about the vbshout... it is on the forumhome...does it open a connection for all members browsing the forumhome? If this is true, then vbshout is not suitable for large boards

Flashcat is a system hog..:surprised:

smacklan 03-20-2006 10:30 PM

yep...flashchat and shout will kill you..plus you really don't need both. I would use flashchat without integrating it to the vb database.

AdminNation 03-20-2006 11:12 PM

I take it though that (I ask because I'm thinking about using it) vBShouts is still not a big issue on a decent dedicated server, correct?

TruthElixirX 03-21-2006 01:19 AM

By the way, I recomend making a post here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14

And also perhaps making a support ticket. ;)

Injektilo 03-21-2006 07:02 AM

how about arcade? do u think is a pain in the a.. on large boards?

pcoskat 03-21-2006 10:15 AM

I run flash chat fine. Even though I have 30,000 members, there are never more than 10 chatters in the room at a time, so it hasn't compromised my performance.

Brad 03-21-2006 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
how about arcade? do u think is a pain in the a.. on large boards?

Last time I looked at the code of that hack it was still using the IPB base. Basically the entire hack tricks the code into thinking it's running under IPB, which would take up extra resources...


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