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ericgtr 12-29-2005 04:28 PM

What's the deal with Zero Tolerance?
 
He has 63 mods and a total of 5135 installs, most of which are fantastic and he's only 17! I am almost 40 and still having trouble with basic queries, it just isn't right I tell ya. :surprised:

Corriewf 12-29-2005 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr
He has 63 mods and a total of 5135 installs, most of which are fantastic and he's only 17! I am almost 40 and still having trouble with basic queries, it just isn't right I tell ya. :surprised:

Kids are either playing with video games or computers..... Not to call him a kid as he is more of an adult now, but he was raised around computers as many of todays youth are. A kid's mind is more able to absorb information then an adult, which is why languages are best taught at an early age. It would take me twice as long to learn Spanish as it would a 12 year old.

AquilaEagle 12-29-2005 04:52 PM

He writes some great stuff! :) He'll do well in life :)

kpr 12-29-2005 06:09 PM

I love his hacks.

im 31 and i struggle with even the basics LOL

Zachariah 12-29-2005 06:26 PM

he is a machine !
- The Matrix has him.

:laugh:

Feckie (Roger) 12-29-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachariah
he is a machine !
- The Matrix has him.

:laugh:


Wrong He Is The Matrix

Revan 12-29-2005 07:30 PM

The potential amount of asskissing in this thread is making me sick.

ericgtr 12-29-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
The potential amount of asskissing in this thread is making me sick.

Big difference between asskissing and admiring someone's ability at such a young age.

Corriewf 12-29-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
The potential amount of asskissing in this thread is making me sick.


You know, I love his hacks, but I would be more impressed if he actually supported them. His attempts to have been sub par. VBChat for 3.0.x was full of bugs and although he attempted, it became quite choatic.

In my opinion, it is easy to create hacks out the ying yang, the real work is supporting and addressing the bugs.

After all, that is a major reason people buy vbulletin.

akanevsky 12-29-2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

(1) The potential amount of asskissing in this thread is making me sick.

...


(2) You know, I love his hacks, but I would be more impressed if he actually supported them. His attempts to have been sub par. VBChat for 3.0.x was full of bugs and although he attempted, it became quite choatic.

In my opinion, it is easy to create hacks out the ying yang, the real work is supporting and addressing the bugs.

After all, that is a major reason people buy vbulletin.
I agree completely.

VBUsers 12-29-2005 09:07 PM

cmon with the asskissing comments. your just mad a thread wasnt made about you guys. you must be drinking Haterade cause all i see is hate hate hate. but i agree with everyone else. he is good and i have used alot of his work. didnt know he was 17. congrats the the guy for being good at what he does.

instead of crapping the thread with your negative comments why not give your fellow coder a pat on the back? would that hurt your self esteem or your ego? whatever i said my 2 cents later

ericgtr 12-29-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

instead of crapping the thread with your negative comments why not give your fellow coder a pat on the back? would that hurt your self esteem or your ego? whatever i said my 2 cents later
I couldn't agree more and before this thread gets closed (I can see it's going down that road) let me just say that my intention wasn't to start a rip fest on ZT. He's obviously provided a lot for this community and it's sad to see some of these statements. Rock on ZT, keep up the good work!

Paul M 12-29-2005 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr
He has 63 mods and a total of 5135 installs, most of which are fantastic and he's only 17! I am almost 40 and still having trouble with basic queries, it just isn't right I tell ya. :surprised:

Yeah, not bad for such a young one. :) You need to get cracking Eric, in three years you'll be as old as me ;)

Revan 12-29-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr
Big difference between asskissing and admiring someone's ability at such a young age.

Keyword: potential.

ericgtr 12-29-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
Keyword: potential.

LOL.. Your users must love you man.

Gio~Logist 12-29-2005 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
The potential amount of asskissing in this thread is making me sick.


OK OK OK Let me rephrase this for your Revan.


Quote:

Originally Posted by What It Should Have Been
What's the deal with Revan?___________________________________
He has 14 mods and a total of 684 installs, most of which are fantastic and he's only 17! I am almost 14 1/2 and still having trouble with basic queries, it just isn't right I tell ya.

Back to the topic: Zero is indeed a good coder, regardless of age :p However, i agree that his support can be better. Although i too am a coder and a graphic designer and i know how hard it may be for one to give support when one has a lot going on at once and no one to help. It can also be very overwhelming. Keep in mind that he has a site of his own as well.

PennylessZ28 12-29-2005 10:52 PM

Actually he's a robot. I meet him once when I was working at area 51.

Revan 12-29-2005 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgtr
LOL.. Your users must love you man.

For some strange reason they did. None of my staff figured out why. O'wells, I don't run a forum anymore sadly XD
Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
OK OK OK Let me rephrase this for your Revan.

Thing is, Im 19 :p

EricaJoy 12-29-2005 11:53 PM

i wouldn't expect a 17 year old to have much time for hack support. he should be focused on being a 17 year old, out getting into trouble, doing homework, and planning for post high school education. the fact that he has the hack releases that he does is amazing. good show young man, good show.

Gio~Logist 12-30-2005 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
For some strange reason they did. None of my staff figured out why. O'wells, I don't run a forum anymore sadly XD
Thing is, Im 19 :p

Close enough :p

MRGTB 12-30-2005 01:57 AM

And there was me thinking I was the only one who had noticed his profile picture and how young he was. It amazes me how clever he is for a young kid, and I'm also suprised vB have not grabbed him yet as a Mod or to help code.

He has lots of promise, wait till he discovers girls though. LOL :rolleyes:

Bang will go the coding. :squareeyed:

Zero Tolerance 12-30-2005 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princessfrozen
i wouldn't expect a 17 year old to have much time for hack support. he should be focused on being a 17 year old, out getting into trouble, doing homework, and planning for post high school education. the fact that he has the hack releases that he does is amazing. good show young man, good show.

Pretty much hit the head on the nail, while the support end on free modifications released here slack beyond my own liking, it's unfortunate to say the least but in-avoidable. While I can relate to a lot of detest to those desiring support, I'm sure if places were switched you'd soon understand the hard task of providing full support for a wide range of modifications while retaining the primary values of life itself.

That said - I appreciate the thanks given, while feeling guilty at the same time for the lack of support, and for the record, I'm actually 18 now, heh.

- Zero Tolerance

Decado 12-30-2005 04:54 AM

:p give the guy a break, 63 mods just on vb.org, not to mention the stuff he codes outside of it. It must be literally impossible to support them all - not enough hours in the day, and he still has to learn a living, surely...

Corriewf 12-30-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance
Pretty much hit the head on the nail, while the support end on free modifications released here slack beyond my own liking, it's unfortunate to say the least but in-avoidable. While I can relate to a lot of detest to those desiring support, I'm sure if places were switched you'd soon understand the hard task of providing full support for a wide range of modifications while retaining the primary values of life itself.

That said - I appreciate the thanks given, while feeling guilty at the same time for the lack of support, and for the record, I'm actually 18 now, heh.

- Zero Tolerance


I didnt mean to belittle you. I mean to state that the combination of great code and awesome support is unbeatable. The day you can master it, here or there, you will be unstoppable.

Gio~Logist 12-30-2005 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance
Pretty much hit the head on the nail, while the support end on free modifications released here slack beyond my own liking, it's unfortunate to say the least but in-avoidable. While I can relate to a lot of detest to those desiring support, I'm sure if places were switched you'd soon understand the hard task of providing full support for a wide range of modifications while retaining the primary values of life itself.

That said - I appreciate the thanks given, while feeling guilty at the same time for the lack of support, and for the record, I'm actually 18 now, heh.

- Zero Tolerance


Perfect, now i can make fun of both you and Revan and i'm untouchable :p hehe

harmor19 12-31-2005 09:40 AM

Keep up the good work and don't take long breaks from making hacks for vbulletin.

I halted making hacks for atleast 2 months and I forgot how it was done so now I have to read tutorials.

TosaInu 12-31-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harmor19
Keep up the good work and don't take long breaks from making hacks for vbulletin.

I halted making hacks for atleast 2 months and I forgot how it was done so now I have to read tutorials.

I'm not sure whether our 3.5 board has a hack from ZT's stable. But I clearly remember it had some when it was 3.03. It was easy to install and he adjusted the hack when I asked.
You're making great stuff Zero Tolerance.

I appreciate all people here who share their work. This site and the people, were a major reason for us to switch to vbulletin.

Erwin 01-03-2006 11:15 PM

There are a few things in life where age doesn't matter. Coding is one of them. :)

Chris M 01-04-2006 08:22 AM

You actually learn better when you are younger, so it doesn't surprise me that there are alot of younger coders out there than older ones ;)

Chris

gothicuser 01-04-2006 11:46 AM

Jeez, just wish I was 18 again, my staff laugh at me when I wear jeans! My eyes glaze over when I try to read a tutorial! my kids call me Gothic! I won't tell you what my grandkids call me...... :(
Almost 60 and realising that I don't stand a chance..
Keep up the good work ZT, it's appreciated here m8.

kallelm 01-12-2006 07:47 PM

I'm adding my 50 cents (inflation):

I have worked with ZT on some stuff outside of this board and find him a terrific wonderful kid. He's always been able to help a struggling computer idiot when she's needed it. I think he is amazing. (BTW, I believe he did "discover girls" as someone posted and still he keeps plugging on.) Okay, pom poms down.

pappy1961 04-19-2007 10:13 PM

Complain all ya want boys, even if he is a bit short when hit with what he considers to be a stupid question.... His installed count speaks for itself. Good Job Zero!!!

Ziki 04-20-2007 10:57 AM

PRetty old thread don't you think?ZT already left vb.org.But he still codes for vb.

nexialys 04-20-2007 04:39 PM

ARGH, ZT ghost...

and please, stop bumping extra old threads, you made have a heart attack... lol

TECK 04-22-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist (Post 860015)
Keep in mind that he has a site of his own as well.

Thanks gio~logist. Not to mention a real job and a real life. I know him personally and I can vauch for him, he is a great person, IRL. I'm 38 and he is 19, curious, we still get along?
So you can wank as much as you want. Go grab some books and do some code instead of complaining like little babies.
So what if someone made him a compliment, where is the wrong part in this?

You still wonder why all good people leave those forums???

Shazz 04-22-2007 09:47 PM

Retired vB Member, codded at a young age, understood it like reading a book
Legend..

Ziki 04-23-2007 12:44 PM

I don't think you should talk in past.He still codes but he just does not visit vb.org anymore.He still is a major help by my hacks

TTG 04-23-2007 01:56 PM

He's on my MSN and is always willing to help if he has the time .. still produces some of the best hacks for vbulletin IMHO

AuroraStorm 04-25-2007 03:40 PM

I'm not sure if I've downloaded ZT's hacks, I might have...I just can't remember off the top of my head, but a few people mentioned the lack of support on some things and I agree with that, although it's not in regards to ZT. From the lack of support to downright hostility you can get with some coders, it's making me considering leaving vbulletin altogether. I realize it's hard work and very painstaking to have people constantly asking you questions and then having to explain things over and over again but that's what happens when you create a product for others to use. I wish I could do any of this but I can't and I rely on the coders for help not only with their hacks but others if they have the know-how...

Sorry...no disrespect to any of you coders but sometimes I get frustrated to near tears with the non-existent to the rude responses for help I get sometimes to where I just give up with trying to integrate a hack...with some of the hacks, if they look like they're gonna be too difficult, I don't even bother because I know I'm gonna ask a lot of what seems to be dumb questions and they're gonna get impatient...

MRGTB 04-27-2007 07:08 PM

Come on people, have you seen the age of ZT. He's a kid who has gone out his way to release some good hacks for free.

He deserves repect for that. This threads a joke and should be deleted


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