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Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:13 PM

PSP vs Ipod
 
[HIGH]PSP vs IPOD[/HIGH]


IPOD
PSP
1. Up to 60gb
1 Up to 4gb
2. Video Capabilities
2. Video capabilities
3. MP3 Capabilities
3. MP3 Capabilities
4. Up to a size 2.5x2.5 screen
4. 4.3inch LCD screen with 480 x 272 resolution
5. Games such as tetris and pinball
5. A large selection of playstation games
6. DVD Capabilities by saving on memory.
6. DVD on memory OR saving space and buying psp dvd.
7. No access to internet
7. Internet Browser
8. Cost up to $500
8. Cost up to $299


Sure, you can have over 20,000 songs with an ipod, but lets be realistic. I doubt anyone will honestly listen to all 20,000+ songs. Also, you can always buy multiple memory sticks and have a certain number of songs on each if you please. So, how does an Ipod really hold up against a PSP? [HIGH]Lets here your opinions.[/HIGH]

PS: Feel free to correct me or ask me to add things to the list of comparisons.


Dan 12-12-2005 10:14 PM

Personally I'm getting a PSP before I get an iPod (i am actually buying one as we speak ;))

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:18 PM

I brought mines for $220 and then brought a gig for $72.99. I already have the psp since i brought it in person, however, i'm waiting for the gig, 2 games (GTA and Marvel Nemesis: Rise of Imperfects), psp case, and a screen protector from newegg.

Chris M 12-12-2005 10:25 PM

You can't really compare them as far as "gaming" goes - The iPod is designed to be a Music and Video playing device, the PSP is designed to be a portable playing device...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:28 PM

And the psp can play music just like an ipod. It has the speaker dock and everything, as well as the availability for more memory. Also, IMO videos on the psp look 100x better than on an ipod.

Chris M 12-12-2005 10:44 PM

Key word being "IMO" - There are uses for an iPod that do not apply to a PSP...

At the end of the day, if you want a portable gaming console that can hold a small amount of music or has a small storage space, then go with the PSP - If you want a portable Music & Video player, with a large amount of storage space, go with the iPod...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
Key word being "IMO" - There are uses for an iPod that do not apply to a PSP...

At the end of the day, if you want a portable gaming console that can hold a small amount of music or has a small storage space, then go with the PSP - If you want a portable Music & Video player, with a large amount of storage space, go with the iPod...

Chris

I respect your opinion. You do have a valid point in a way, however, memory cards can be added to have more music on a psp.

Chris M 12-12-2005 10:51 PM

While that is true, that is at additional cost to the original item; That also means that you are still limited to the capacity of the memory card...

A 30gb iPod can be used as a portable hard-drive to transfer files from Computer A to Computer B - Much bigger than any other device aside from a 60gb iPod, or a proper external hard drive...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:52 PM

Memory cards on a psp can be used to transfer fiels as well. As a matter of fact, i have classmated who put their HW on a psp and bring it to class to print.

HaRR0 12-12-2005 10:54 PM

I have a PSP with 1gb memory card, and every game thats been released. Im not a gamer but i had to have this because i was going on holiday and the journey was long.

Its good if you like games, also easy to download videos and music into.

Ipod mustnt be that good its only basically an MP3 player right ?
Atleast we can do the same on a PSP as well as play games.

Chris M 12-12-2005 10:54 PM

While that is good for smaller documents, less than 5 or 6gb in size in total, when you, like me, wish to take home a Linux Operating System or 3 that you have downloaded in University, that would require somewhere in the vacinity of 8 - 9gb of space - Add to that other programs or items or bits of work you want to take home or take to University, that 20gb of space spare from your Music and Videos becomes handy...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:57 PM

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I see all you people on ;] Lets hear your opinions. Unless you're just here for the fun debate lol.

Chris M 12-12-2005 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaRR0
I have a PSP with 1gb memory card, and every game thats been released. Im not a gamer but i had to have this because i was going on holiday and the journey was long.

Its good if you like games, also easy to download videos and music into.

Ipod mustnt be that good its only basically an MP3 player right ?
Atleast we can do the same on a PSP as well as play games.

That's not a brilliant comparison which is why I said "You can't really compare them"...

Why drive a 5 litre engine car when a 1.4 litre engine car will do the same journey in roughly the same time on speed-restricted roads whilst being more economical?

The answer? They suit an individuals wants and needs...

The PSP is a gaming console, the iPod is not and was not intended to be - You can buy phones with MP3 playing capabilities and some Video capabilities - They perform multi-functions for people who don't require specific items - However, I cannot hook up my phone to my in-car sound system and play music from it in my car... Nor can I with a PSP (at this present time in the UK, at least)...

Just because you prefer to have a smaller storage capacity and play Games on your PSP, doesn't mean the iPod "isn't as good" because it "only plays Music" - It was designed initially for music, has recently expanded to Video, and like I pointed out, can be used for large file-transferal between machines where a network connection is not possible...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaRR0
I have a PSP with 1gb memory card, and every game thats been released. Im not a gamer but i had to have this because i was going on holiday and the journey was long.

Its good if you like games, also easy to download videos and music into.

Ipod mustnt be that good its only basically an MP3 player right ?
Atleast we can do the same on a PSP as well as play games.


Exactly, also, the chances of someone listening to all of the 20,000+ songs they put on their ipod are slim to none.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
That's not a brilliant comparison which is why I said "You can't really compare them"...

Why drive a 5 litre engine car when a 1.4 litre engine car will do the same journey in roughly the same time on speed-restricted roads whilst being more economical?

The answer? They suit an individuals wants and needs...

The PSP is a gaming console, the iPod is not and was not intended to be - You can buy phones with MP3 playing capabilities and some Video capabilities - They perform multi-functions for people who don't require specific items - However, I cannot hook up my phone to my in-car sound system and play music from it in my car... Nor can I with a PSP (at this present time in the UK, at least)...

Just because you prefer to have a smaller storage capacity and play Games on your PSP, doesn't mean the iPod "isn't as good" because it "only plays Music" - It was designed initially for music, has recently expanded to Video, and like I pointed out, can be used for large file-transferal between machines where a network connection is not possible...

Chris


Your comparison was not to great chris lol!

What we're saying is that not only can a psp do the same things an ipod can, but it can do it just as good if not better. For example, videos show way better on a psp.

Chris M 12-12-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
Exactly, also, the chances of someone listening to all of the 20,000+ songs they put on their ipod are slim to none.




Your comparison was not to great chris lol!

What we're saying is that not only can a psp do the same things an ipod can, but it can do it just as good if not better. For example, videos show way better on a psp.

My comparison is just fine - PSP in the comparison is the 5 litre engine - It sings, it dances and it flashes and twirls and does alot of varied functions, but is overkill and cannot perform all the functions that an iPod, the 1.4 litre engine, can - Yes it has a smaller variety of functionality but it works well at what it does and is more useful for some people...

Not really - If someone travels, and doesn't get alot of oppurtunity to login to their computer and listen to their .mp3s on their machine, 20,000 songs may be of use to them to get variety...

There could be other practical uses, such as using it to hook into a Club's sound system if you are a DJ, or like previously stated mass-file storage and transferral...

I understand you can't see the idea behind an iPod but don't knock it just because you like the PSP - I can see the benefits in both, and while I don't own a PSP it doesn't mean I wouldn't like to own one for gaming...

A wider video doesn't mean better if the PSP's version has to stretch to fit the rest of the screen - It will pixelate and lose quality that way...

Chris

nexialys 12-12-2005 11:05 PM

i hate to see all these dumb comparaisons... here are some details that a iPod can do all day long, that PSP will never be able to:

iDJ Mixing Console for iPod -- DJs can now make a full party only with 2 ipods...

http://www.numark.com/products/produ...overview&n=132

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



Apple iPod Camera Connector -- now plug your digital camera in your iPod and take millions of photos

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...plm=M9861G%2FA

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



FM Transmitter with LCD for iPod. -- direct fm radio in your ipod!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itriplcd/

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



Laser Pointer and Flashlight for your iPod or iPod mini - for teachers and scientists!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/ibeams/

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/


and i mostly forgot the legendary iPod SOCK:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2005/12/12.jpg

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
Not really - If someone travels, and doesn't get alot of oppurtunity to login to their computer and listen to their .mp3s on their machine, 20,000 songs may be of use to them to get variety...

There could be other practical uses, such as using it to hook into a Club's sound system if you are a DJ, or like previously stated mass-file storage and transferral...

I understand you can't see the idea behind an iPod but don't knock it just because you like the PSP - I can see the benefits in both, and while I don't own a PSP it doesn't mean I wouldn't like to own one for gaming...

A wider video doesn't mean better if the PSP's version has to stretch to fit the rest of the screen - It will pixelate and lose quality that way...

Chris

I was close to buying an ipod as well to be honest. I like both, i'm just trying to see why one would get an ipod over a psp.

What you're saying is right as far as the variety, i can see where you're comming from. However, i just can't see how someone would even be able to find 20,000+ songs they'd like to have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
i hate to see all these dumb comparaisons... here are some details that a iPod can do all day long, that PSP will never be able to:

iDJ Mixing Console for iPod -- DJs can now make a full party only with 2 ipods...

http://www.numark.com/products/produ...overview&n=132

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



Apple iPod Camera Connector -- now plug your digital camera in your iPod and take millions of photos

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...plm=M9861G%2FA

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



FM Transmitter with LCD for iPod. -- direct fm radio in your ipod!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itriplcd/

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/



Laser Pointer and Flashlight for your iPod or iPod mini - for teachers and scientists!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/ibeams/

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/


and i mostly forgot the legendary iPod SOCK:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2005/12/12.jpg



That is nice indeed lol. I like that.

Chris M 12-12-2005 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
i hate to see all these dumb comparaisons... here are some details that a iPod can do all day long, that PSP will never be able to:

iDJ Mixing Console for iPod -- DJs can now make a full party only with 2 ipods...

http://www.numark.com/products/produ...overview&n=132

http://www.numark.com/images/product...j_overview.jpg



Apple iPod Camera Connector -- now plug your digital camera in your iPod and take millions of photos

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...plm=M9861G%2FA

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/...onnect_125.jpg



FM Transmitter with LCD for iPod. -- direct fm radio in your ipod!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itriplcd/

http://www.griffintechnology.com/ima...lcd_side01.jpg



Laser Pointer and Flashlight for your iPod or iPod mini - for teachers and scientists!

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/ibeams/

http://www.griffintechnology.com/ima...od_ibeam_3.jpg


and i mostly forgot the legendary iPod SOCK:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2005/12/12.jpg

I like the iBeam thingy :D

I might have to get one just to point the laser at people's eyes :D

I think I found another thing the PSP can't do - Sort songs into playlists, and playlists by artist, genre etc...

Chris

Gio~Logist 12-12-2005 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
I like the iBeam thingy :D

I might have to get one just to point the laser at people's eyes :D

I think I found another thing the PSP can't do - Sort songs into playlists, and playlists by artist, genre etc...

Chris


I believe the new updates can indeed. I need to check on that.

Brad 12-12-2005 11:46 PM

I tend to agree with Chris, go for the PSP if you are into gaming, otherwise get the ipod or some other mp3 player with a lot of space.

I'm planning on getting the PSP myself, and a few extra memory cards. I don't have a large collection of mp3's compared to other people I know, nor do I need them all on one player at the same time.

I also like the PSP because I can play my old games on it by dumping the ROMs and playing them via emulation on the PSP. I will pick up the GTA game that is out but I don't plan on buying any movies cause I wouldn't enjoy them on such a small screen. :)

Gio~Logist 12-13-2005 12:09 AM

Don't get ripped off with the memory. People try charging 130 for a gig. Newegg has it for $72.99

KTBleeding 12-13-2005 12:18 AM

Honestly, I don't think I'll ever understand why people pay up to $500.00 for something that just plays music. $500.00 can build a pretty decent computer, which can obviously do a billion more things than an iPod can. As well as store a lot more music. ;)

Just cause it's portable? PSH.. there are far more less expensive mp3 players out there that do the job a lot better than my old iPod did. What a waste of money that was. :x

Anyways, if you feel like blowing a lot of money on something.. I guess they "look cool". I would go with the PSP, just cause it can do a ton more, and is less money.

Tony G 12-13-2005 12:44 AM

Why the hell are you comparing a PSP and iPod? They're both very different gadgets - and are used for very different purposes. I'm sorry, but it's stupid to compare these for no reason at all.

Gio~Logist 12-13-2005 12:53 AM

Believe it or not, a lot of people where i live do compare it due to the fact that it's the holidays and they don't know which to get or ask for. Comparing their capabilities can always help.

Tony G 12-13-2005 12:58 AM

For THAT reason, it's okay. As a present, it's probably more fun to have a PSP. But don't get a PSP if you plan to mainly use it to listen to music and watch videos.

Corriewf 12-13-2005 01:30 AM

I just sold my psp w/ 3 games and a movie for 250.... I am going to get an xbox 360 and leave the music to my laptop/stereo/ect crap.

I really dont find the need to listen to that much music. I often find myself on the am channels listening to local politics...;)

Gio~Logist 12-13-2005 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G
For THAT reason, it's okay. As a present, it's probably more fun to have a PSP. But don't get a PSP if you plan to mainly use it to listen to music and watch videos.

Yea that's what i thought but i actually see kids now buying psps just for the videos and music lol. I asked them why not an ipod and they said because of the screen and display. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. Ipods are nice though for music and stuff, the fact that it displays them so organized and can fit so many is always great.

Wayne Luke 12-13-2005 01:39 PM

For portable movies I would definately get a PSP if it and an iPOD were my only choices. The screen is larger. 2.5" does not make for a great viewing experience. Same with these new cellphones that offer video on them... the screens are too small for anything practical.

The iPod screen may be good for quick picture viewing but it is mainly a music player. The other features are really just gimmicks to get people to spend more money. In my opinion, the PSP is a more all around device which fits multiple needs.

filburt1 12-13-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke
For portable movies I would definately get a PSP if it and an iPOD were my only choices. The screen is larger. 2.5" does not make for a great viewing experience. Same with these new cellphones that offer video on them... the screens are too small for anything practical.

The iPod screen may be good for quick picture viewing but it is mainly a music player. The other features are really just gimmicks to get people to spend more money. In my opinion, the PSP is a more all around device which fits multiple needs.

Almost agree (and I have a 5G iPod). It is not a great or really even that good of a video player but an excellent music player. A PSP is a great gaming machine and video player due to its physically larger 16:9 screen (although lower resolution IIRC). However, I don't think it makes a good music player: too bulky and the highest capacity it can store is 1 GB on a Memory Stick (go proprietary media...just let it die already, Sony).

Wayne Luke 12-13-2005 04:24 PM

1 GB is what 250 songs? Multiple media sticks for different song lists. Don't know about the quality. Never really looked into the sound quality just going by what I can see any. Personally, I can't tell the difference between fidelity, hi-fidelity, Dolby 5.1 or THX except for speaker direction so it probably wouldn't make any different to me.

I have spent $500 on speakers for my entertainment center and $25.00 on speakers for my computer and really cannot tell any difference in sound quality. The entertainment center just has more speakers for more ambient noise and is capable of higher volumes without ruining the sound.

Oh and you can get up to 2 GB of memory on the Memory Stick Duo. That is twice as much as a iPod Shuffle. Two of them take up less space than a Mini or a Nano.

I should add that I don't plan on buying either. I don't like Sony's proprietary media formats and I don't like Apple restricting you to their music service only. I can see the business reasons for both but as a consumer I don't have to agree with them.

Blindchild02 12-13-2005 05:05 PM

*note* I havent read anything in this thread.

My opinion is this...
I had bought a PSP when it came out, i also purchased a 1 gig stick for it.
In my opinion, its a waste of money.
Sure, it has a few games, but they mostly suck.
Sure, you can watch movies on it. BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY 15 BUCKS FOR IT! THEN YOU CANT WATCH IT ON ANYTHING ELSE.......
Sure, you can listen to music, but only friggin 1 gig worth....
Sure, it has internet... but it sucks.

in retrospect, psp sucks... ipod is MUCH better

filburt1 12-13-2005 05:38 PM

My opinion having only read the post Wayne made that I quoted is quite simple and cannot be disputed: the PSP and iPod are in different product markets entirely and cannot be compared. Like OS X is to Windows, one is suited for some tasks and the other is suited for others.

Gio~Logist 12-13-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke
1 GB is what 250 songs? Multiple media sticks for different song lists. Don't know about the quality. Never really looked into the sound quality just going by what I can see any. Personally, I can't tell the difference between fidelity, hi-fidelity, Dolby 5.1 or THX except for speaker direction so it probably wouldn't make any different to me.

I have spent $500 on speakers for my entertainment center and $25.00 on speakers for my computer and really cannot tell any difference in sound quality. The entertainment center just has more speakers for more ambient noise and is capable of higher volumes without ruining the sound.

Oh and you can get up to 2 GB of memory on the Memory Stick Duo. That is twice as much as a iPod Shuffle. Two of them take up less space than a Mini or a Nano.

I should add that I don't plan on buying either. I don't like Sony's proprietary media formats and I don't like Apple restricting you to their music service only. I can see the business reasons for both but as a consumer I don't have to agree with them.


You can even get a 4gb hard drive now.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&ref=06&loc=01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blindchild02
*note* I havent read anything in this thread.


My opinion is this...
I had bought a PSP when it came out, i also purchased a 1 gig stick for it.
In my opinion, its a waste of money.
Sure, it has a few games, but they mostly suck.
Sure, you can watch movies on it. BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY 15 BUCKS FOR IT! THEN YOU CANT WATCH IT ON ANYTHING ELSE.......
Sure, you can listen to music, but only friggin 1 gig worth....
Sure, it has internet... but it sucks.

in retrospect, psp sucks... ipod is MUCH better

You're right, when the psp came out it didn't have many games, however, there are a nice amount now and more are comming out. Also, i do agree with you on paying $15 for a dvd and only being able to watch it on your psp. However, you can always put it on your memory card. Also, it is only $15, which can help if you're on a long ride or something and need something to do/watch.

Wayne Luke 12-13-2005 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
You can even get a 4gb hard drive now.

That is interesting but the more little addons and devices you have to get for better functionality, the less portable a device truly becomes. I feel that portable devices should be all-inclusive. The PSP would have been much better off with a 1.5 inch drive to begin with.

You do realize that adding the hard drive erases any price difference between the PSP and iPod 5G, don't you? Not only that but you get less storage space.

Even with that, your mind seems set. Buy a PSP and enjoy it. Others will buy iPods and enjoy them. I personally will be getting a portable DVD player with a 9" screen for less than both of them.

Gio~Logist 12-13-2005 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke
That is interesting but the more little addons and devices you have to get for better functionality, the less portable a device truly becomes. I feel that portable devices should be all-inclusive. The PSP would have been much better off with a 1.5 inch drive to begin with.

You do realize that adding the hard drive erases any price difference between the PSP and iPod 5G, don't you? Not only that but you get less storage space.

Even with that, your mind seems set. Buy a PSP and enjoy it. Others will buy iPods and enjoy them. I personally will be getting a portable DVD player with a 9" screen for less than both of them.


I already got the psp lol. That is true about paying less for an ipod 5gb though.

Andrew 12-13-2005 09:05 PM

Is iTunes really that big of a deal for PC users ??? I never really considered that as being a negative aspect of the iPod's, and actually I've always considered it a good thing. My first MP3 player could be filled from multiple music programs, but almost all of them had issues. I think by keeping the iPod's proprietary to iTunes you eliminate a large majority of issues that could arise othewise.

(I should mention I primarily use an iBook, so I guess I've just gotten used to iTunes for listening to my music.)

filburt1 12-13-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gio~logist
I already got the psp lol. That is true about paying less for an ipod 5gb though.

Buy both, use them for a week, and then realize you were crazy to spend $548 plus the cost of games.

Wayne Luke 12-13-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew
Is iTunes really that big of a deal for PC users ??? I never really considered that as being a negative aspect of the iPod's, and actually I've always considered it a good thing.

For me it isn't exactly bad though the iTunes application requires unneeded services and memory usage on a Windows PC. It is the lack of variety and the limiting of choices. With iTunes, I am limited to my PC or an iPod to listen with instead of the hundreds of other players on the market. They are the only source of music and radio whereas with my WMA based player, I can purchase music at many different stores or listen to radio stations powered by half a dozen companies. I can also purchase video already.

I also don't have to worry about licensing issues to play the music on Media Connector devices such as and XBOX360 or a set-top box from another company. Nor do I have to burn it to a CD and then rip it back and risk file degradation and artifacting.

And I can do all of this from a single application, Windows Media Player 10. I don't have to use the software that ships with the MP3 player if I don't want to. Combine that with a customizable interface, the ability to expand the codecs used and a lot of other little features and iTunes really starts to pale in comparison.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...s/default.aspx

Tony G 12-14-2005 10:48 AM

I don't mind iTunes - only because I use it to put songs on my iPod and thats it and it does a decent job of that. I don't really care about any of the other aspects of the program.

peterska2 12-14-2005 09:44 PM

Well, at risk of sounding old fashioned, I'm more like:

Games = PC or Game Cube
Music = Stereo or 256MB Generic MP3 Player.

Why spend hundreds of Pounds on something that I don't need? I mean like my little MP3 Player holds 2.5 hours of music which is more than enough for me even when I'm travelling to the other side of the City via Bus to visit my Maternal Grandparents.


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