New VBSEO thread *Child Proof*
 

My response to joey in that thread. (I promise, I wont be the one getting this thread closed by saying one word)

just wondering if i can get input on this..
btw i think i asked good in the last thread :rolleyes:
anyways this is what i had psoted b4 it was closed

Apologies accepted.

Yes - actually it was a private message. Therefore, (since my comment needs to be considered in context) I would prefer that you post the entire PM here.

I don't know and I really don't care (not being smart, I just do not have any use for that feautre, nor do I see any use for anyone using other than to duplicate content which google frowns upon) so the product does exactly what I want.

If it doesn't work then I guess it doesn't work. I can't see many people buying VBSEO to remove duplicate content only to turn around and duplicate their content via parked domains.

I think many misunderstand what consitiutes duplicate content and the (assumed) penalty from google.

Oh really?

Well then please explain Google's penalty for duplicate content, especially when you have two different domain names that have the exact same content.

Please explain why Google would find this acceptable.

I didnt say that - I only said I think many misunderstand what consitiutes duplicate content and the (assumed) penalty from google.

Clarification: there is a real duplicate content penalty for content that is duplicated with minor or no variation across the pages of a single site. There is also a "mirror" penalty for a site that is more or less substantially duplicating another single site. What I'm talking about here is the reprint of pages of content individually, rather than in a mass, on multiple sites.

• PageRank. Many thousands of high-PageRank sites reprint content and provide content for reprint. The most obvious case is the news wires such as Reuters (PR 8) and the Associated Press (PR 9) that reprint to sites such as www.nytimes.com (PR 10).
• The proliferation of content reprint sites. There are now hundreds of websites devoted to reprint content because it's a cheap, easy magnet for web traffic, especially search engine traffic.
• Experience. I've seen significant search engine traffic both from distributing content to be reprinted and from reprinting content on the site.

Just a tidbit from HERE

Aaaand... the 'PM that contradicts the notice on the site' doesn't do anything of the sort.

Juan, in the PM, states "I have to say I agree with you %100 in the fact that mod_rewrite is not necessary to get pages indexed.".

The site states: .
Where is the contradiction? Nowhere in the list does it say that "vBSEO is necessary if you want your pages indexed". Nor does it even state that mod_rewrite is.

That's all good but we are talking about parked domains here with the same content as another domain.

thank you for trying to answer this.

i don't really have any need for parking more url's but this was a concern that i had with the vbseo script, because of my understanding ( and I could be wrong ) you must tell vbseo your site that the script is running on, and unless they " activate it " it wont work.
this is why I asked, because if you only have one of your sites activated, then would the park url's only show the normal links /showthread=9202 ect ?

I gave them my site url yes just like I give vBulletin my site url to confirm location of valid license, as for your other question, I have no clue.

Joey, will you please post the whole pm since you offered? I am curious to see what was said.

As am I.

Context is important joey. If you are going to breach the "Privacy" of a Private Message, you could at least post it in its entirety.

Juan has given you permission (and a request) to do so, why not do so?

but with vb ,, if you moved your forums to a different url, your board will still work.

I'd bet that many licensed user don't have there " homepage " current.

with vbseo if you moved your board to a different url, the seo wouldn't work still ;)

I don't have an answer to that. Why don't you sign up on vbseo or pm vbseo here and ask them? Like I said, not something that affects me so I have really no concern for it.

hmm..

my board is running at nepalhub dot com
plug in chat at nepalgossip dot com
photopostpro will be nepalhub dot com / gallery

my idea is to use curl / php and make the events-category of the vb and events-category from the photopostpro to show via eventnepal dot com.

is displaying the events(at eventnepal dot com) of vb 1/2 page and events gallery of photopost gallery on the remaining 1/2 with say diff colors, but the hard-links pointing to vb forum (nepalhub dot com) a bad idea and will be considered a repetation ?
what would be the best way to achieve that goal ? 2 domains, 1 with vb and a large community, second domain just a showcase of the EVENTS section of the vb.

and second,
i am considering vbseo when they release a link-free version sometimes in future. what is the next best alternative next to vbseo that can be applied (without my competetors knowing) and if you have it applied, perhaps a link to your own boards.

You can already remove the link from the copyright:

I hope it is ok to post that information, if not please let me know.

sorry, but i meant the un-branded version.
I don't want others to know how I am doing my SEO :)

If i take months of research to find out and evaluate a product (say vbseo), i don't want others to land in my page and just find out about it too :). They can do their own research.

I am not sure even why the version has to be included there
Just "Content Relevant URLs by Crawlability Inc" sounds OK also.

Ok I got you. Last I heard they were going to do a unbranded version but don't know when. You should register at http://www.vbseo.com and post your questions there. They will be answered :)

**Crickets**

do they pay you to promote vbseo ? all i really see you saying is sign up at vbseo site and ask :))

does that knock anything off the outrageous 150$ price :))

guess we All should have tried to be a beta tester and get the product for free, like 75% of the member that support them now...lol

and I'm not knocking you if you did pay 150$ for 5 php files, but really, seo isn't new.. many boards have it, and many websites do to.. and for far less then 150..
isn't it odd how this "speacial" vbseo is so much. but phpbb seo is free ?
and dean's seo mod and the google/yahoo site map mods do just as well as this high priced hidden code does ?

okay,,
[high]* Brandon Sheley bendsover and waits for vbseo fans to bash me...lmao[/high]

same question :)


I am planning to get a second vb license instead of vbseo..

dean's seo mod and g/y sitemap mod users: can u please confirm :)


:o

Don't try to turn this thread into the same as the one that was closed.

If you don't like the prize, don't buy it.

Fans (or people opposing to it) is not your biggest worry if you try to go that road again.

No they do not. I get paid nothing, I am not on their staff so stop pulling that arguement up.

I paid 150 dollars for this, again stop with these types of comments. If you are not going to post the PM that Joey has flaunted in front of us, do not post!

I was not a beta tester. Stop talking about beta testers.

I paid for the product, I do not work for them, they do not pay me to say the things I do. You do not bring anything to the table but false accusations. Leave

Good for them!

Have you ever used phpBB? Enough said

Obviously it doesn't do what I want or I would be using it. I tried his before buying it, it did not give me the convience and ease of use that VBSEO gives me. I can easily rewrite urls outside of the forum directory from one convient control panel.

Stop posting in this thread you bring nothing to it, I have answered your questions straight up, now stop trying to make me out as something I am not.

Why dont you install it to find out? Then look at all the ease of use of VBSEO and make your own decision. All you are going to get here is me saying I love it and others saying it's not worth it. Time to do your own research in my opinion.

I have never looked back on my vBSEO license purchase.

Enough said.. :)

My Warning to Loco Macheen goes to everyone on each side of this 'discussion'.

For whatever it is worth you can browse my site and see what it does: http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/

The portal is rewritten as well: http://www.mustangevolution.com/ford...y-information/

if vbseo will open a christmas discount scheme, I will take two.


:D

yes, and still do. whats your point ??

i say one halfway negative comment and get a""warning""
nice.. yet the last thread went on for how long with all the fighting ??
guess opinions expressed can only be onesided eh..

don't worry i wont voice my thoughts about this product, even tho that is what was asked in the first thread..

hey go ahead overpay for something u can get for free :rolleyes:
and hope vbsec.com never goes down, cuz then your links will be dead..lmao

My point is this is vBulletin, not phpBB. I know nothing about phpBB's seo hack, I know nothing about what the features are. I could careless what the features are. I don't use phpBB. If they are just as good and free then that is awsome! You know what though? It does me NO GOOD BECAUSE I DON'T USE PHPBB.

You are the one looking bad in this thread :) No one else. Now like I said, stop making false accussations at me with your posts and debate the facts.

You want to talk about the price? Talk about the price then. You want to compare features, compare features then. You want to talk about the ease of use for both products? Then talk about that! Do not paint me as something I am not. Do you understand that?

Your opinion is FLAT OUT WRONG. I am not working for VBSEO, I am not a moderator over there. I AM A PAYING CUSTOMER.

You did not voice your thoughts about the product in your post to me, you accused me of something I was not. Period

I did not overpay for something that I get good use from.

PROVE IT OR SHUT UP

If VBSEO goes down, my site continues to rewrite urls just like they do now. The license number is in the config file and with that there is no dependency on their server.

I'm glad you said you are not voicing your opinion though, maybe now we can get somewhere in this thread.

And where do you want it to go?

Maybe i should have made myself more clear.

It will not be tolerated that this thread gets out of control again!

This means that we don't want to see any post that is trying to provoke, or any thread of anyone that will 'bait' on a provocation. Keep things in a nice discussion on the subject without repeating arguments over and over (that also goes for arguments already made in the closed thread).

If you see a provoking post, don't reply on it, even if it is addressed at you personally, unless you are able to reply without feeding on the provocation. Staff will keep a close eye on this thread, if you see a post that is not according to the above, simply report it, don't feed it.

If this thread gets closed again, it will probably not only the thread that gets (temporary) closed.

I hope i made myself very clear this time.

Where the original thread starter wanted it to go before people started making outragous accusations.

People have questions about the product, about what it does. Believe it or not that is what this thread started out as. Someone wanting feedback on people that actually paid for this.

nvm.. enjoy your vbseo :nervous:

@Loco Macheen

Please read my last post, you might want to edit/remove your latest reply. We probably cross posted.

Ok and I think by now all questions as to what this product does has been answered. So where do you want this thread to go now?


The reason I ask is that I see nothing but redundancy in post made by all parties. I keep checking this thread hoping to see maybe some new information or someone's opinion.

The redundancy should be over ;) Now if you dont have a question about vbseo... please don't post?

Pros and Cons aside.

Has anyone come up with a way to quantify the ROI on vBSEO? Are you paying the price to have this laid out for you to implement and have some granular controls or is this a means to more actual profit that one can express?

I doubt anybody can give a general answer to that. It will greatly depend on your site.

That's kinda the point. There are so many variables, I'd think the nay sayers could drive the Sayers nuts trying to get a justification for using this.

So the first part of the second question was the out. They could say, "I paid for the service and configurability of the product".

As I said, pros and cons aside, I don't want to get into that mess! Not that "I" have any strong opinions.

I just think it's riddiculous that even after you pay the $Arm.leg for the product, that you have to include links to them which will only increase THEIR Rankings.

If the product was 20 or 30 bucks I would understand, but for that much money, i think it should already be Unbranded.