Arcade discussion..continued
 

There is no pay option to remove the copyright on the IBP arcade.

<a href="http://ibproarcade.com/" target="_blank">http://ibproarcade.com/</a> if thats the same people then if you look in your member account you can remove copyright if you pay

No, not the same people. That new version is a pure vBulletin-spinoff with permission of Chris Kelly and only available on official vBulletin-Forums where your vB-License gets checked.

I'll take your word for it since I dont have an account there. I still think it's different. This is Mr.Zeropages conversion and he has no pay options. He converted it without any intention of charging money for anything.

oh okay :) so are you or are you not giving the option to remove copyright ?

on ibproarcade.com there still is the old v2.5.1 available, which only works with vBulletin 3.0.x and contains copyrighted files from InvisionPowerBoard.
For this release they offer to copyright-removal for money.

As said before, this here is a pure vBulletin-spinoff, only available on official vB-forums, only for vBulletin, and has nothing to do with any service offered elsewhere.

then the whole point of removing the copyrights is not questionable. by releasing this free hack to the community you are required to keep the copyrights in order i would guess.. so that still dont change that v3arcade will launch the same way. its free as long as you dont remove the copyrights or want too. if you prefer a hack that has no form of copyrights then you pay some extra cash to remove it .

And why I dont think it should be or will be allowed here. You PAY extra for a "feature". However trivial it is.
It's a slippery slope once you start doing that.

No, there will be no option to remove the copyright. Zero worked hard on this to be able to get it out to everyone before the weekend. He has been working hard on it for a while now. The least we can do is show our appreciation by proudly displaying the copyright. ;)

i dont see why it wouldnt be released here all around the hack is free as long as you dont change one line of the coding. everything else is free support is free the arcade itself is free. i think thats fair to offer the option to remove the copyrights for cash as long as the whole coding they are offering here is not a commercial product

I love how people get upset when a hack has a "pay to remove copyright notice" option, and then upset when they find out that the hack does not have that option... too funny. I am proud to give Zero credit for his hard work.

Your exactly right he does deserve the props and exposure for the hard work in the coding he reworked to work on the new system. but so did john and v3arcade there both great arcade systems .. the whole point of this john has an option where zero dont. which i dont think zero has the rights to do so since its not his own script its just a reworked version of someone eles original.. thats where john can do so since he wrote it all for vbulletin originally... and has no credit to someone else for the original..

A big diskussion about a small copyright. That are really big problems *lol* :nervous:

The Arcade runs with copyright as good as without. Where is the problem ? The little link in the footer ? That's not your earnest. :nervous:

i am not upset about ibpro arcades copyrights at all. i dont see a big deal in leaving it where it is most my forum members would know i am full of **** if i claimed todo the coding myself anyway thats a huge project...

but some users would rather have no copyrights at all and it just look like they did it which is cool in my eyes too.. if he offers that for users. its worth the money to do so.. the whole point is there both free hacks. they both put hard work in to there arcades and they both deserve props.. but the whole discussion is over is v3arcade commercial because they offer that service..

You bring up a good point. Since Zero basically statred with the script that someone else wrote for another version, their copyright still has to be in there. So even if Zero wanted to offer that, which we don't, the other copyright would have to stay in tact.

im quite confused :S

i just recently bought vbulletin and i am please with all the mods i have found on this site .. i want to add a arcade but im confused which one to add, ibproarcade or v3arcade , which one is best , it looks like i have to pay for games on v3arcade??

im using vb 3.5

ps : can i install both? or can i play ib games on v3 and vise versa?

Crikey, it's only an arcade - a bit of fun on a forum, not really that important - why would anyone want to start paying money to remove copyrights.

there both great arcades. if your really deciding equally wait till later today and take a look at both systems..


v3arcade is free free games ibpro is free free games.

v3arcade offers a pay system of you want to remove the powered by v3arcade line. besides that everythings free besides the vbulletin system you run it on

the same reasons that would motivate them to pay to have the branding removed from vbulletin I suppose :squareeyed:

yep some people choose to remove all that stuff for some reason. i dont see the poinht but theres that choice ya dont have to make that choice but its offered

actually i can think it might be good for a business to remove it but personal forums for like music or whatever else they run it makes no sence..

vizionz, using the copywrite thing was a veiled way of charging for something. How many people payed to get the arcade and not really to remove the copywrite. I would bet most.

It's just like vbportal. They say the portal is free and you pay to use the forum where you can download it.

Both instances are just different way of packaging a pay product in a manner that attempts to disguise things.

My thoughts exactly! ;)

i am sure most bought that option to just get the beta release first but. for some users more business type sites. removing the copyrites from the products your using makes your site look more created by you instead of someone elses product..

like the portal is a good example. when you viewing your portal page and your viewing it and people are reading your news or whatever ya put on the main page. and they scroll down and see a link to another site powered by they click it and see the same thing your running. then another business or competion decides i ccould do that too. so they get the same things as you and now your both running the same type of system. so its mostly used for people who want to trick there users into believing you did it all yourself..

i really aint sure on that question but v3arcade lets you use games from both systems..

as far as installing them both i dont know if they would clash.

But that would basically be lying to your users, if you wanted to make them believe you wrote something you didn't. Not a good practice to get into for any site. ;)

when did business sites care about that :P

It wouldn't be lying to your users - your users don't care who created the code or the bb software they are using- I see it is an attempt to hide a "how to recreate my site in 5 easy steps" lesson from the competition.

yep pretty much.

If the coder wants to offer a "Pay to remove Copyright" initiative, then that is their choice - Other than that you must keep any and all Copyrights intact unless the coder authorises you to remove it :)

Chris

Thank you, Chris, ;)

And that ain't never gonna happen. ;)

of course- I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise.

http://www.bowlandcentral.com/forum/arcade.php?
http://www.bowlandcentral.com/forum/ibproarcade.php?

So yes, you can, but it's a pain. The way I did it, which *should* also work when I port over to vB 3.5, is to take ibProArcade and change all relevant instances of 'arcade' and 'arcade.php' to 'ibproarcade' and 'ibproarcade.php'.

Of course, you need to know which ones to change and which not, which, errm, can be a bit trial and error sometimes. But as you can see, it works...somehow!

well there ya go :) good job mark

yeah, for sure that wont happen ;) tee hee

Ah, you must know something I don't? ;)

thnx for replys people - since u lot will know more than me ... which arcade do u suggest v3arcade or ibproarcade?

I'm merely clarifying it so that people who decide to remove it anyway think twice ;)

Chris

theres tons of sites that remove the copyrights. without paying. the only way to truelly protect that is if the coder himself makes the code not wo0rk if they remove it.

I've yet to see anything about v3arcade for 3.5, so cannot comment based on functionality or any visual preference...

However if you want something that you can download now and install, go with IPBProArcade :)

Chris

i suggest waiting till tonight and looking at both for yourself. i prefer v3arcade because it already has the abilty to have both games from both systems where ibproarcade dont as far as i know. but others might prefer ibproarcade . but untill both are launched its just one sides so far

http://www.v3arcade.com/forums/

You can't - They would simply alter the code to make it function...

However - These people should be aware that they could be sued over doing so...

For all coders wishing to release scripts involving new pages and functionality, invest some time in making a licence agreement and include it in your .zip file - You will stand better chance of winning any legal action if it is included with your code :)

Chris