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OK, I know it's not till Thursday 24th but I've got a couple of questions that I hope someone can help me out with.

Basically, my folks are planning on having a Thanksgiving dinner this year as such a lot has happened this year that we have a lot to be thankful for. Mum suggested it to me the other day and so I said that we might as well do it on Thanksgiving as it's coming up.

So here's my questions.

Apart from Turkey, what else goes into a Thanksgiving meal?
Is there anything that I should know about it?
Any reccommendations to make it really special?

It sounds a bit silly, but being in the UK, we have absolutely zilch experience in this and we want to do it right if we are doing it.

So all you Americans out there, I'm counting on you.

1.) Other food stuffs like potatoes, vegetables, gravy, and of course non-edibles like plates, knives, forks and other related items (i.e. placemats lalala)
2.) It's an American holiday - Something to do with giving thanks to their forefathers or something (I'm probably wrong:p)
3.) Don't do it - That'd make it special ;)

Chris

So is it a bit like a Christmas dinner then?

Yeah, basically it's just like Christmas dinner..without the presents.

Or the copious amounts of alcohol :D

Chris

And the first Thanksgiving didn't even have turkey. Turkey didn't start until the 1940s I think.

For some ideas see
http://www.historychannel.com/thanksgiving/?page=menu

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Originally Posted by peterska2

Apart from Turkey, what else goes into a Thanksgiving meal?
Is there anything that I should know about it?
Any reccommendations to make it really special?

It sounds a bit silly, but being in the UK, we have absolutely zilch experience in this and we want to do it right if we are doing it.

So all you Americans out there, I'm counting on you.

The most important thing is the Turkey, if done correctly you are going to spend the whole night before prepariing that.

As for the fixin's, most of the time we have the following:

Mashed potatoes
Gravy
Corn (I like creamy, most of the time we do both the non-on the cob kinds)
Green Beans
Yams
Stuffing
sweet potatos
Baked apples
cranberry sauce
Black eyed peas
CornBread
biscuits (< a southern past time for every meal ;))

Now, you also have to have something to eat after the main meal. Most of the time any type of cake or pie is fine. We always make pumpkin pie and pecan pie.

Also my step dad cooks up some deer meat most of the time, although not many people eat it (my mom's side is picky about food..).

Lots of cooking, but worth it! :)

Wonderful. Thanks a lot guys.

Now to make the shopping list!

mmmm...Brad...your post is making me HUNGRY! lol

@Peterska2...the best way to prepare a turkey is deep fried in a specialty cooker...if you've never had it prepared that way before you would be in for a major treat :)

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Originally Posted by Chris M

2.) It's an American holiday - Something to do with giving thanks to their forefathers or something (I'm probably wrong)

From wikipedia :D

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The Pilgrims set apart a day for thanksgiving at Plymouth immediately after their first harvest, in 1621; the Massachusetts Bay Colony for the first time in 1630, and frequently thereafter until about 1680, when it became an annual festival in that colony; and Connecticut as early as 1639 and annually after 1647, except in 1675. The Dutch in New Netherland appointed a day for giving thanks in 1644 and occasionally thereafter.

During the American Revolutionary War the Continental Congress appointed one or more thanksgiving days each year, except in 1777, each time recommending to the executives of the various states the observance of these days in their states.

George Washington, leader of the revolutionary forces in the American Revolutionary War, proclaimed a Thanksgiving in December 1777 as a victory celebration honoring the defeat of the British at Saratoga. The Continental Congress proclaimed annual December Thanksgivings from 1777 to 1783, except in 1782.

George Washington again proclaimed Thanksgivings, now as President, in 1789 and 1795. President John Adams declared Thanksgivings in 1798 and 1799. President Madison, in response to resolutions of Congress, set apart a day for thanksgiving at the close of the War of 1812. Madison declared the holiday twice in 1815; however, none of these was celebrated in autumn.

One was annually appointed by the governor of New York from 1817. In some of the Southern states there was opposition to the observance of such a day on the ground that it was a relic of Puritanic bigotry, but by 1858 proclamations appointing a day of thanksgiving were issued by the governors of 25 states and two Territories.

In the middle of the Civil War, prompted by a series of editorials written by Sarah Josepha Hale, the last of which appeared in the September 1863 issue of Godey's Lady's Book, President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a national Thanksgiving Day, to be celebrated on the final Thursday in November 1863:

"The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.

No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.

It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.

In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.<

Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.

Proclamation of President Abraham Lincoln, 3 October 1863."

Since 1863, Thanksgiving has been observed annually in the United States.

In 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared that Thanksgiving would be the next to last Thursday of November rather than the last. With the country still in the midst of The Great Depression, Roosevelt thought this would give merchants a longer period to sell goods before Christmas. Increasing profits and spending during this period, Roosevelt hoped, would aid bringing the country out of the Depression. At the time, it was considered inappropriate to advertise goods for Christmas until after Thanksgiving. However, Roosevelt's declaration was not mandatory; twenty-three states went along with this recommendation, and 22 did not. Other states, like Texas, could not decide and took both weeks as government holidays. Roosevelt persisted in 1940 to celebrate his "Franksgiving," as it was termed. The U.S. Congress in 1941 split the difference and established that the Thanksgiving would occur annually on the fourth Thursday of November, which was sometimes the last Thursday and sometimes the next to last. On November 26 that year President Roosevelt signed this bill into U.S. law.

Beginning in 1947, the National Turkey Federation has presented the President of the United States with one live turkey and two dressed turkeys. The live turkey is pardoned and lives out the rest of its days on a peaceful farm.

Since 1970, a group of Native Americans and others have held a National Day of Mourning protest on Thanksgiving at Plymouth Rock in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

In my house the thanksgiving meal consists of Roasted Turkey, Roasted Ham, Mashed Potatoes, Turkey Stuffing, Gravy, Green Bean Casserole, Cranberry Sauce, Candied Yams, Fruit Salad, Bread Rolls. We also have pies afterward. These include Apple, Pumpkin and Banana Cream. I prefer Sweet Potato and/or Pecan pie on occasion but no one else likes them.

The turkey gets prepared the night before and usually goes in the oven by 3 a.m. and is ready by 2 p.m. at the latest depending on weight. The total meal is a group effort and spread out among 3 houses. Everyone contributes to the meal in the family.

Before eating, we go around the table and each person has to say one thing they are grateful for, even if they had the worst year. Afterwards, we eat leftovers for a week.

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Originally Posted by Brad

Ok - What the hell are Yams?

I presume Corn is Sweetcorn...

Chris

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Originally Posted by Chris M

Ok - What the hell are Yams?

I presume Corn is Sweetcorn...

Chris

Ask Boofy, he's expert in corns. :D

We just call them yams, I was refering to Candied Yams. Yes Corn = Sweetcorn.

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Originally Posted by Chris M

Ok - What the hell are Yams?

I presume Corn is Sweetcorn...

Chris

Yams are sweet potatoes.

Yams are not sweet potatoes although look very much like it, and both are tubers. Yams have pointy ends (look like 12 inch orange home rolled cigars!)

Yams taste like a cross between potatoes and pumpkin, but much sweeter... to me at least.

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