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Brad 11-14-2005 11:30 AM

Lucid Dreaming
 
One of the things most people have heard me say in my time is "Sleep is boring". I suffer from many sleeping problems, and at one time I questioned if I even needed sleep but my body informed me I was wrong. For years I found sleep boring because I did not have many dreams, this was due to multiple concussions I suffered over the years because I have a habit of riding my toys a little to fast.

About a year ago while searching for information about sleeping on the net I stumbled on to Lucid Dreaming, the technique that allows you to become aware of the fact you're dreaming while you're in the process of dreaming. Big deal right? Well read on.

Through Lucid Dreaming you can alter every detail about your dream. You can fly, visit other worlds, alter you body ("Become anther person/object"), and yes you can even work on your code. ;)

Over the last year I have been able to train myself to lucid dream to the point that I become lucid multiple times in one sleep session, and you can to. I think the benefits of doing this are so great everyone should know how to become lucid, because otherwise you're wasting time imho. I introduced a RL friend to this about a month ago and already he has managed to become lucid, I am hopping this thread will turn more of you on to this technique.

First off here are a few links, these are the same links I used to learn this myself and everything you'd want to know is on these pages. Although I do encourage you to search for information yourself (please post any good links you find here, I'd be interested in reading them.)

A good general FAQ on Lucid Dreaming
http://www.dreamviews.com/
http://dreamemporium.com/lucid_dreams.html

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From wikipedia's page on lucid dreaming: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming

Lucid dreaming is the act of consciously perceiving and recognizing that one is dreaming while such experience befalls one during sleep, enabling a more cogent ("lucid") control over the content and quality of the experience. The complete experience from start to finish is a lucid dream. Stephen LaBerge, a popular author and experimenter on the subject, has defined it as "dreaming while knowing that you are dreaming." [1]

There are many unanswered questions about lucid dreaming, and about dreaming itself. LaBerge and his associates have called people who purposefully explore the possibilities of lucid dreaming oneironauts (literally from the Greek meaning "dream explorers"). The topic attracts the attention of a diverse and eccentric group, namely psychologists, self-help authors, new age groups, mystics, occultists and artists. This list is by no means exhaustive nor does interest in lucid dreaming apply necessarily to each group. Clear and consistent knowledge about lucid dreaming is difficult to find amongst the many interpretations of the experience, especially considering its highly subjective nature. It may be classified as a protoscience, pending an increase in scientific knowledge about the subject.

Lucid dreamers regularly describe their dreams as exciting, colourful, and fantastic. Many compare it to a spiritual experience and say that it changed their lives or their perception of the world. Some have even reported lucid dreams that take on a hyperreality, seemingly "more real than real," where all the elements of reality are amplified. Lucid dreams are prodigiously more memorable than other kinds of dreaming, even nightmares, which may be why they are often prescribed as a means of ridding one's self of troubling dreams.
I hope a few of you look into this more and at least give it a shot, if you have questions ask and I will attempt to answer them. :) It's hard to become lucid the first time, and it does take some work and effort but once you get there you will realize that it was worth it 10 fold.

The Geek 11-14-2005 11:48 AM

The problem with working on your code while Lucid dreaming is that all of it would compile perfectly then the trick would be to get a print out or to email it to your RL system. Thats the part I haven't mastered yet ;)

I guess Ive done this a few times briefly by accident - however it always ended up making me wake up or I would fall back deep asleep. Always been fascinated with the concept though.

The thing that is weirding me out is what you have been watching ;)

Brad 11-14-2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Geek
I guess Ive done this a few times briefly by accident - however it always ended up making me wake up or I would fall back deep asleep. Always been fascinated with the concept though.

This is common and even with training you'll find yourself waking up sometimes. The only way to get better at this is experance, and once you can realize you're dreaming most every dream you will overcome the problem with waking up.

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Originally Posted by The Geek
The thing that is weirding me out is what you have been watching

I'm keeping an eye on you all. ;)

lexx27 11-14-2005 01:07 PM

For a year I am trying to have LD and it is very interesting. I had some success. I am a member in your site and it is helping me!

Brad 11-14-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lexx27
For a year I am trying to have LD and it is very interesting. I had some success. I am a member in your site and it is helping me!

I do not operate the sites above, they where just ones I bookmarked while I was learning how to do this. I hope they help you, a year is a long time to be at it without having a full-on lucid dream. :)

No one is the same, so I'm sure it takes some people longer to 'get it' then it did for me.

lexx27 11-14-2005 01:58 PM

Its a year because i am not really focused but i am planning to be :)

TruthElixirX 11-14-2005 05:38 PM

I have these quite often without trying. They are awesome.

nexialys 11-14-2005 10:49 PM

ok, Brad try to hypnotise us so we are sure he is lucid... ya ya!!!

on my side, i'm able to manipulate my dreams for a long time actually...

when i was young, i had this bad nightmare nights after nights... for about 3 years i was dreaming something horrible that was a 3 or 4 minutes dream... and i never had the solution of that dream because i was not able to understand it... i explained the dream to a psy(a cousin of mine), just for fun, and he told me that the best way to break this nightmware was to face it and be brave...

be brave at 13 years old when you don't know how you can dream... but i have made it... i broke the dream simply by modifying the end of it...

you can become superman when you face an horrible monster in your dream, so being Superman, you can destroy that monster and be free...

you can also dream that you seduce the girl next door (ok, it's not so good to have wetdreams when your wife is besides you...) but anyway, you just have to mind you before going to bed, and be aware of your dream, so you can manipulate it... this is virtual (and not vertual), and you can manipulate everything when you are virtual...

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Originally Posted by The Geek
The problem with working on your code while Lucid dreaming is that all of it would compile perfectly then the trick would be to get a print out or to email it to your RL system. Thats the part I haven't mastered yet ;)

problem too is that if you have the solution for your code in your dream, you will "think" you've done it in the real, and will forget about the debug... not good here!

PennylessZ28 11-14-2005 11:00 PM

I hit my head one time and ended up in a magical place.

nexialys 11-14-2005 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HR3rdGen
I hit my head one time and ended up in a magical place.

magical, magical... we call that an hospital, and these cute little fairies are actually nurses...

Tony G 11-14-2005 11:57 PM

Hmm, this doesn't sound half bad. I hardly ever remember my dreams, and so controlling them means I have to remember them... riiiight?

Reeve of shinra 11-15-2005 12:07 AM

its a subject I've long been interested in. I picked up some self hypnosis tapes and those helped me out too.

nexialys 11-15-2005 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony G
Hmm, this doesn't sound half bad. I hardly ever remember my dreams, and so controlling them means I have to remember them... riiiight?

wrong... you can't control them outside of your dreaming period... you have to be aware of these dreams when they come out...

if you awake in the night, having a strange feeling about the moment - fear, sweat, nausea, excitment, etc... - it means your body was aware of the dream and you were disturbed by its content... if you can't remember your dream at this moment, you can at least try to understand your actual feeling about the night you're in...

the more you will exercise yourself to this, the more aware of the dreams you will be...

... am i a psy now?!

Chris M 11-15-2005 02:06 AM

...cho maybe ;)

Lucid dreaming rules :)

Chris

Guest190829 11-15-2005 02:12 AM

Whaaa? The thought of being awake while sleeping is just...just...insane to me. I love sleeping, and I don't remember dreams either. What's the point of sleeping if your just awake..kinda?

Chris M 11-15-2005 02:17 AM

Can you jump off a 100 storey building while awake and not splat on the ground?

If so, please dis-regard this :p

When dreaming you can do all kinds of things you can't do normally, so you can feel like Superman or Get the girl you want, in your dreams :)

Chris

Guest190829 11-15-2005 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris M
...so you can feel like Superman or Get the girl you want...
Chris

Mhm, seems like my reality. ;) :D

Boofo 11-15-2005 03:57 AM

Come on guys, back in the 60's we used to do this all the time (with a little help from the magic fairy, if you know what I mean). And we did it while we were awake. ;)

I can't do it now as I have Sleep Apnea (sp?) but I do miss those days of being young and stupid. Being here with all you youngsters makes me feel I'm still in the era sometimes. :p

Tony G 11-15-2005 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys
wrong... you can't control them outside of your dreaming period... you have to be aware of these dreams when they come out...

if you awake in the night, having a strange feeling about the moment - fear, sweat, nausea, excitment, etc... - it means your body was aware of the dream and you were disturbed by its content... if you can't remember your dream at this moment, you can at least try to understand your actual feeling about the night you're in...

the more you will exercise yourself to this, the more aware of the dreams you will be...

... am i a psy now?!

You're freaking me out. :p

Sometimes I can 'feel' the dream but that still doesn't make me remember it.

Brad 11-15-2005 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boofo
Come on guys, back in the 60's we used to do this all the time (with a little help from the magic fairy, if you know what I mean). And we did it while we were awake.

Same thing, but you have control. ;)

Brad 11-15-2005 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony G
Sometimes I can 'feel' the dream but that still doesn't make me remember it.

You remember less and less of your dreams as the day goes on. When you first wake up you may remember flashes of it but by supper time they are mostly gone. This is why it's important to keep a notebook and pen by your bed, and why you should write down everything you remember as soon as you wake up.

patriotcow 11-15-2005 06:11 AM

I think I get this, I dream I've been working on my site coding it and carry on working on it but I'm awake because I can hear people talking then go onto my pc and see its all gone. its horrible.

Tony G 11-15-2005 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad
You remember less and less of your dreams as the day goes on. When you first wake up you may remember flashes of it but by supper time they are mostly gone. This is why it's important to keep a notebook and pen by your bed, and why you should write down everything you remember as soon as you wake up.

Yes that happens to me sometimes, and sometimes I remember nothing at all.

I'll take up this idea of yours, see how it goes in terms of remembering. ;)


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