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imported_silkroad 11-22-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisP (Post 1918777)
This is the testforum www.thegameonline.dk - it is a fresh copy of the real forum (have temporarily disabled the mod on the real forum www.thegame-online.dk).

Thanks. Sorry, I can't read it since I can't read DK (Irony). Maybe you could enable EN translation so we can read the content? Or, I guess not, since it Google is not translation for you now?

Anyway, I did notice Google Adsense was serving PSA ads on your site. That is not good.

KrisP 11-22-2009 09:12 AM

You mean PSA on the mothersite? - yes, but thats only sporadically for new content. Most threads have real ads.

If you want an EN translation you can use this link: xxx

imported_silkroad 11-22-2009 09:19 AM

Your site content seems fine.

Are you serving pop-ups or pop-under ads or similar intrusive ads?

Also, I recommend caution regarding this:

Quote:

Translations delivered by vB Enterprise Translator
.....

Automatic Translations (Powered by Google ):
This is confusing to me. I am not sure Google would like this type of situation with their credit at the bottom and under a similar credit. It makes Google look so "small and not important" compared to a small provider.

Anyway, that is just my opinion.....

You need to ask Google directly and not guess. If you are serving pop ups or pop under ads, that will be a problem for Google, I think.

(Edit) PS: FWIW, better would be:


Quote:

Automatic Translations Powered by Google

....

Forum Translation Software by vB Enterprise Translator
Also you need "Powered by Google" for translations near the content for every translated page. I recommend you put it at the top of each thread, not hidden at the bottom.

KrisP 11-22-2009 09:27 AM

I will move up the Google credentials to be on the safe side.

No popups - only adsense.

How do I get in contact with Google? I already posted at the Danish webmaster Google Help forum. I hope not they will ask me to post here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-translate because it seems Google representats arent answering peoples requests.

NLP-er 11-22-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisP (Post 1918765)
Google TOS states:

You will not, and will not permit your end users or other third parties to:


http://code.google.com/intl/da/apis/...age/terms.html

Seems many threads are more than 5000 characters in length - often 3 times as much ...

Looks like I have been blocked by Google and am trying to find out why. I have the Google logo in the bottom of the screen and have made sure cache is updated until now.

If you was blocked by Google it is not because of long messages. vBET has set $maxUrlLength = 1900; and it cuts long messages (smart algorithm - if exceeded then first will try to cud by whole sentences looking for dot, then by spaces and at the end just cut).

Please check what are Google responses in the way which I already described to you on vBET forum. Then we will know more, and hopefully we will solve this fast :)

NLP-er 11-22-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad (Post 1918778)
I agree completely. I read that post and was really shocked by the complete falsehood (lie) posted by marco at vbSEO. His post was an utter and complete lie. In most civil courts in the world, he would be liable to you and your business for such a statement. He better be careful, because you have so many customers who can speak for you otherwise.

I know for a fact that translations are important for the world. Machine translations, while not perfect, bring people closer together. Translations help people all over the world find information they might not normally find. Translations are an absolute blessing. They are the future of the Internet.

Always remember... the purpose of machine language translations is not SEO. This is wrong. The purpose of machine translation is to make your unique content available to the world. You are not optimizing search engines, you are making more content available for global users.

If you use a machine language package with only SEO in mind, you are making a big mistake, IMHO. Translation is about making information available, not SEO. If you get more traffic because information is available in many languages (and you will !!), that is because you have unique content available for many users and languages globally.

Be Responsible and Be a Good Internet Citizen. Do No Harm.

Thank you for your words. Especially I like the part about thankful users who know how it really looks and can speak in my name. I would really be glad if you support me in vBSEO discussion with your opinion :)

Edited
You will not get a chance for this - they closed booth threads...

NLP-er 11-22-2009 06:05 PM

Hi all. I suddenly feel great motivation to make vBET compatible with such products like:
- zoints SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=202739, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127336)
- clogic SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=217309)
- TfSEO 2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=173738)

And I'm talking here about free version. So if someone is using any of this SEO products and want to be able to use vBET 2.x on his forum I just need some test environment. If you will to set such test forum with installed SEO product just PM me details and I will take my best to give you possiblility of using vBET 2.x with SEO links with this products :)

imported_silkroad 11-22-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1918986)
Thank you for your words. Especially I like the part about thankful users who know how it really looks and can speak in my name. I would really be glad if you support me in vBSEO discussion with your opinion :)

Edited
You will not get a chance for this - they closed both threads...

Yes, they should be ashamed of themselves. I think you will see a blog post on this topic soon, and you can point people to that blog article. When I see that article, I will let you know ...

isatice 11-22-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1918624)
Yes - simply edit your templates and add:
Code:

<if condition="!$_GET[language]">THIS WILL BE SHOWN ONLY ON NOT TRANSLATED PAGE</if>
(not tested - just put from hand)

But really I see no sense of avoiding of showing adsense for translated pages.

wow ur the best , works amazing
actually it's because in my forum main language is not English and it's against Google adsense rules to put ads
but now i can put ads in my English pages with ur great addon

voted for MOTM

NLP-er 11-22-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLP-er (Post 1919066)
Hi all. I suddenly feel great motivation to make vBET compatible with such products like:
- zoints SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=202739, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127336)
- clogic SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=217309)
- TfSEO 2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=173738)

And I'm talking here about free version. So if someone is using any of this SEO products and want to be able to use vBET 2.x on his forum I just need some test environment. If you will to set such test forum with installed SEO product just PM me details and I will take my best to give you possiblility of using vBET 2.x with SEO links with this products :)

OK I made little investigation and all those SEO mods have similar way of working. I checked on paid version, so it is not officially confirmed, but it should work (please confirm if you use it)...

So everything what you need to be able to use vBET 2.x SEO translation links with your SEO engine is add this 2 rules BEFORE all rules for seo mod:
Code:

RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is|id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk|vi|cy|yi)/$ index.php?language=$1 [QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is|id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk|vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ $2?language=$1 [QSA]

And of course set vBET SEO links on ;)

I would really happy make it official statement and write it in FAQ, so really - if you appreciate this free product and you make it working with one of mentioned SEO products (or have issues) - please write about it :)


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