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grafbyte 09-11-2009 05:34 PM

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plase the uninstall faq ? im have error to login :(


edit: OKY

wolfstream 09-11-2009 07:01 PM

just like any other mod
uninstall the plugin
remove the files
that's all.

SoulSuite 09-12-2009 03:16 PM

Hope myspace account will be added to : )

drsli 09-12-2009 03:44 PM

I switched back to the other facebook-mod, no alternative available so far, and as many others I think an open-id-access is indispensable.

surfer2124 09-12-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Calash (Post 1882731)
In theory...if they follow the instructions and add their personal email addresses they could request a Password Reset. Once they have a known password they will have the option of logging in ether way.

IMHO that defeats the purpose of the mods a bit but it should work.



This does work I tested it. If you setup your email and request a password reset you can login either way.:up:

wolfstream 09-12-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsli (Post 1883711)
I switched back to the other facebook-mod, no alternative available so far, and as many others I think an open-id-access is indispensable.

Yet you add a facebook login mod. This isn't about openID, which sucks, it's about facebook and google.

Calash 09-13-2009 12:16 AM

When you click the Google Friend Connect button it lists OpenID. Never tested it so I have no idea if it works but I thought it was part of the mob.

wolfstream 09-13-2009 12:47 AM

Ok, I'll take your word for that, haven't tried it as openid sucks.
Back on topic:
This mod conflicts with the "login as user" mod.

drsli 09-13-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1883787)
Yet you add a facebook login mod. This isn't about openID, which sucks, it's about facebook and google.

I know, and my explanation was misleading. An open-id-based mod like this would be very nice, but as long as it "wipes" out my avatars (I?m using the default vb-style) and as long as the reported bugs aren?t resolved, I?m switching back to the pure facebook-solution.

Viral Architect 09-13-2009 05:37 PM

This is an EXCELLENT idea for a mod! A login system that uses Facebook AND Google AND Yahoo AND OpenID is a magnificent idea!

I understand that these mods are not easy to develop but I must argue that if the developer wants to use it on THEIR forum, why not make it work and if nothing else, SELL it to us. As far as I know there is no solution, not even one you can purchase, that is relatively bug-free and incorporates all these different systems.

I give tremendous thanks to the author for producing at least a relatively functioning mod. Stunning work, really.

wolfstream 09-13-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viral Architect (Post 1884165)
I give tremendous thanks to the author for producing at least a relatively functioning mod. Stunning work, really.

Obviously you haven't read through the countless pages of problems with the mod. This doesn't "relatively function", it doesn't do anything but barely function, and it causes massive problems with forums, so, no, this does not function, even relatively, and the author is refusing to support it properly.

Paid? We already paid for vBulletin. This is put out by the same people, so why should we pay again for a hack that can't even work 1/2 way right?

ibautocommunity 09-14-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1884220)
Obviously you haven't read through the countless pages of problems with the mod. This doesn't "relatively function", it doesn't do anything but barely function, and it causes massive problems with forums, so, no, this does not function, even relatively, and the author is refusing to support it properly.

Paid? We already paid for vBulletin. This is put out by the same people, so why should we pay again for a hack that can't even work 1/2 way right?

This is a free mod and it is not made by the same people who make vBulletin, just a clarification.

Ohiosweetheart 09-14-2009 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1884220)
Obviously you haven't read through the countless pages of problems with the mod. This doesn't "relatively function", it doesn't do anything but barely function, and it causes massive problems with forums, so, no, this does not function, even relatively, and the author is refusing to support it properly.

Paid? We already paid for vBulletin. This is put out by the same people, so why should we pay again for a hack that can't even work 1/2 way right?

May as well stop ranting sweetie, it's not going to do any good. They're simply not going to support this thread, nor help these people.

Mr. Brian 09-15-2009 01:21 AM

Apparently this product is not compatible with PHP version 4.4.9 or lower.

wolfstream 09-15-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ibautocommunity (Post 1884665)
This is a free mod and it is not made by the same people who make vBulletin, just a clarification.

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CARBLOG.COM Copyright 2008 InternetBrands.com
Say again? Does not IB produce vBulletin? Are you not a member of IB? Ahh, yes, as your name indicates, you are, and yes, they do.
So, by defacto, this is an IB mod.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Brian (Post 1884937)
Apparently this product is not compatible with PHP version 4.4.9 or lower.

4.x was EOL over a year ago, it's time to update that old server to something more secure and up to date.

Adrian Schneider 09-15-2009 04:44 AM

Sucks to see people ruin a good thing.

IB does not produce vBulletin - Jelsoft produces vBulletin. It may be the same head hanchos but they are different companies. More importantly, they were kind enough to release this to the public you should be appreciative that they are doing this and not just keeping it to themselves. They too run a bunch of vBulletin forums, and to some of us, are the competition.

Personally I am seeing this as a proof of concept modification. Sure, it's only in beta now, but I'm sure there will be many other similar modifications to follow. Why are we complaining that it's not 100%.

1) Nobody paid for this
2) It's still in beta
3) It's unsupported

Check your license again. It's for vBulletin; not everything the same (and I'm being generous here) company creates.

wolfstream 09-15-2009 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirAdrian (Post 1885003)
IB does not produce vBulletin - Jelsoft produces vBulletin. It may be the same head hanchos but they are different companies.

IB should not have put their name on it if they weren't going to keep it up to date, plain and simple, and yes, they did put their name on it.

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Originally Posted by SirAdrian (Post 1885003)
2) It's still in beta
3) It's unsupported

I'll admit that you've got me on #1, but 2 and 3 are massively incorrect.
#2 - When a product is in beta, you don't ignore your beta testers and the bugs they report to you, you fix them , in a timely fashion. This is how you reward your beta testers.

#3 - This only recently went to unsupported because IB (the company whos name is behind this product) refuses to support it for better than a month. It was initially released as a 'supported' mod, which got people into installing it, on those grounds.

I have no problem working with beta software, as long as the author is responsible enough to act on reports and get issues resolved in a timely fashion. Now, I'm stuck with a mod that doesn't work and the author has essentially abandoned it.

The only person "ruining" this good thing? The author themselves. They promised support, lied while doing so, and now have basically abandoned the mod.

Adrian Schneider 09-15-2009 05:50 AM

My mistake if they recently changed it to unsupported.

However, remember that they are testing it on their own boards, too. That is more than likely their testing process because I'm quite certain they also have a QA department that may be testing it, not to mention their users. Who knows, they might just be publishing the releases here and not using it for direct feedback. I'm sure they have enough users for that.

I still say people have no right to be upset about it. It's NOT anything official. They are no different than myself or you when it comes to these releases. How many hundreds of mods get abandoned here?

Honestly, this is NOT something I would have installed on a live board. It's one of those things that can seriously mess with data and can open up all different cans of worms in regard to security, privacy, data integrity, etc.

I do see merit in your points, but I also see the other side that they were acting as a contributor to the community, and at the very least, should be applauded for that. Perhaps they do not have the resources to fully fund, support and develop this as a paid modification. Do you guys prefer it's kept in the closet forever, or shared with the world?

wolfstream 09-15-2009 06:03 AM

Honestly, they should have at least tested the product before just throwing it up here, and even if it is beta, hey, they shouldn't have released such a bug ridden product, then stepped back. Yes, in that case, I would have preferred it to be delayed, until such time as they were ready to provide support for the product.

This mod doesn't actually 'mess' with anything, it merely adds tables and allows users to connect accounts outside of the vB normal login procedure, much like the facebook connect mod.

If you're going to release something here, you have to at least test it to make sure it's stable and supported, because otherwise, you're screwing the community by doing this kind of stuff. It's a responsibility thing. It is flat out irresponsible to just ignore this many problems, and this many bugs like this.

Calash 09-15-2009 05:23 PM

Then problem is that using a mod like this becomes a commitment. Once you have users who have joined via this mod it becomes very difficult to step away from it without abandoning them. A required email address would help as it would allow people to request password resets.

It does not need much work to get it to a usable state. Some path tweaks to the java and code will net you a running script. Better use of templates would go a long way to being more portable. The number field edit clears up a lot of the template issues and, IMHO, should have been the top priority to fix to add immediately once resolved.

Adrian Schneider 09-15-2009 05:42 PM

That's what I'm saying about it messing with things.

wolfstream, you may want to chime in here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...34#post1885234

wolfstream 09-15-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calash (Post 1885281)
Then problem is that using a mod like this becomes a commitment. Once you have users who have joined via this mod it becomes very difficult to step away from it without abandoning them. A required email address would help as it would allow people to request password resets.

Actually, it's not that hard to step away from it. I did it once with the other facebook mod, and I'm about 30 seconds away from doing it to this one, due to the authors refusal to update product. Abandoning the users? naaah, it can be done without it That's why you put them in a separate usergroup and tell them how they can get their password changed, it's really, really not that hard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calash (Post 1885281)
It does not need much work to get it to a usable state. Some path tweaks to the java and code will net you a running script. Better use of templates would go a long way to being more portable. The number field edit clears up a lot of the template issues and, IMHO, should have been the top priority to fix to add immediately once resolved.

Are you kidding?
A usable state means that it doesn't interfere with the core vBulletin script at all. As such, this does not do that. There are so many core problems with this script that the developer is just ignoring it's not even funny.

Calash 09-16-2009 01:17 AM

I am not seeing the core problems you are. To be fair I have modified several of the plugins to correct the bugs but overall I have been running it with no problems for several weak no major issues.

BucWiLd 09-16-2009 12:02 PM

this mod has so much potential. however i will wait for the smoke to clear and the dust to settle before i download it.. i hope it does pan out. would love to use it. i just dont understand why this is up for mod of the month, if its so buggy and not supported

Marco van Herwaarden 09-16-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1878593)
Why am I not surprised that once again, IB ignores their audience and product. Thanks for the update Calash, though you really shouldn't have to be picking up after IB's laziness

Once more to clarify this, "IB" did not release anything. An employee of IB is trying to share something they are creating with the community, just like any other coder who creates something for his own website and shares it with the community.

And calling IB lazy on something "IB" has nothing to do with is simply out of line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1878725)
OH, no, it's laziness.
This is the most pathetic attempt at "support" I've seen in a mod in a very, very long time. Ignoring customer requests, you know, the people that pay the bills?
....
This mod should be moved to the graveyard, because it most definitely is not stable or supported, as the author claims

Again, paying for a vBulletin license does not give you the right to access vBulletin.org, make demands from anyone who shares his/her work with the community, or be abusive in your tone.


Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1882683)
Riiiight, support means you'll just provide support on your own sites. That's pathetic at best. This is NOT a supported mod, hell, it's not even an updated mod here. Get with the program!

Ignoring bug reports, not acting on them, not fixing them is unacceptable. People do your work for you, and you just sit back and do nothing. If you want to run a beta mod, you must provide support (full support) wherever you release the mod, and you must update releases, not sit back and ignore bugs. This is just common sense here!

Again, there is no "must". It is your own choice to run Beta software, which i assume you are not doing on your production site. An author of a mdoifcation will post an updated version whenever he/she has the time and the product is read for a new version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1885007)
#3 - This only recently went to unsupported because IB (the company whos name is behind this product) refuses to support it for better than a month. It was initially released as a 'supported' mod, which got people into installing it, on those grounds.

The only reason they marked this as unsupported is because of the tantrum you are throwing here.

ZiG 09-16-2009 05:33 PM

yea i don't have any of these problems either, its been running perfectly fine for me. there was a vbseo livestats issue, but the guys over at vbseo fixed it for me pretty quickly because they are awesome. besides that, this mod has probably got me over 300 new members...and it is working without any issues.

wolfstream 09-16-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1885706)
Once more to clarify this, "IB" did not release anything. An employee of IB is trying to share something they are creating with the community, just like any other coder who creates something for his own website and shares it with the community.

Is it run on an IB website? Yes
Is it run by an IB employee? Yes
There is no way this does not reflect well for IB. Directly, or indirectly, they are responsible for how this mod plays out.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BuCwIld (Post 1885689)
this mod has so much potential. however i will wait for the smoke to clear and the dust to settle before i download it.. i hope it does pan out. would love to use it. i just dont understand why this is up for mod of the month, if its so buggy and not supported

The mod is definitely buggy. Why's it up for MOTM? Because support was promised, and it has great potential. I didn't nominate it, I would (personally) have waited until it was stable to do so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiG (Post 1885863)
yea i don't have any of these problems either, its been running perfectly fine for me. there was a vbseo livestats issue, but the guys over at vbseo fixed it for me pretty quickly because they are awesome. besides that, this mod has probably got me over 300 new members...and it is working without any issues.

Without any issues, meaning you can close your browser and not have to login again? Of course not, because even on their site that does that.

Without any issues meaning that you didn't have to edit anything to get polls working? Of course not, because, again, even on their site that does that.

There are a number of issues with this mod. Admittedly, some of them are small, but a lot of them are pretty major.

And on that note, I'm done with this mod and thread. It sucks because I have provided a good bit of help and support, but considering the 2 infractions I just got for calling something what it is, I'm not going to risk it.

Good luck getting help with this, good luck getting whatever person @ IB to update their mod.

ZiG 09-16-2009 05:54 PM

no, actually im pretty sure my polls are working just fine...
i haven't tested the closing the browser and still being logged in thing though, but whats the big deal just log back in? its a very minor issue for you to be getting so worked up over, and i'm sure they will be updating their mod. with you acting this way it could probably turn them off from supporting it (i hope not), and in any case i'm sure vb4 will probably have some sort of supported feature for something similar to this so i'm not that worried about the small bugs you have to deal with for now.

anyway relax man, you have to have patience with mods. we get this stuff for free, they do it at their own leisure time. its not like your paying for it...

Ohiosweetheart 09-16-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1885706)
The only reason they marked this as unsupported is because of the tantrum you are throwing here.

Oh come now Marco, Anders marked it as unsupported because we asked him to. I mean, he's not supporting it, hasn't answered any questions or helped anyone since a couple of days after he released it. So we requested that he change it to UNsupported because he was, in fact, not supporting it, and he did so.

Releasing something as beta was not the problem. I beta test things all the time. I have no issue with that.

However, releasing something as beta and then completely abandoning the support thread, then telling us wayyy after it's been released here that you're just now getting around to releasing it on your own forums, and upon testing, as you find bugs, then you'll update this here... that's just wrong.

As you said above, most coders release their mods on their own forums first, then release it here. That didn't happen in this case, Marco. It was released here first. WE were the guinea pigs. Had I known that it had not been tested on his own forums first, of course I would not have installed it. I'm smarter than that.

It should never have been released before it was tested first, much like we're doing for alpha vb4. This mod is alpha at best.

This was handled wrong, all the way around, very unprofessionally. :rolleyes:

Calash 09-16-2009 11:34 PM

While I do not share wolfstream's level of anger in this issue, he is quite correct and, IMHO, justified in his response. It is true that we cannot put any blame on IB for this mod, it would be like blaming my webhost for bugs in my efiction mod should I release it.

As much as I enjoy this mod it should have never been released in it's current form, and should not have been marked as supported with their support plan, or lack thereof. If you are not planning on supporting the community here, not just at your own site, that tag should not be set.

There was a reply to one of my posts stating that they would try to push out an update to the mod in a week or two. I am hoping that they will hold to this, if only to show the community here that they have not abandoned this mod.

On a side note, I was one of the people who nominated this mod based on the idea and support during the first few days.

cagbaazee 09-17-2009 03:24 AM

Will check it soon.

Wayne Luke 09-17-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfstream (Post 1885875)
Without any issues, meaning you can close your browser and not have to login again? Of course not, because even on their site that does that.

I use this as an end-user on OhioSweetheart's site. Have never been logged out after closing the browser.
Quote:

Without any issues meaning that you didn't have to edit anything to get polls working? Of course not, because, again, even on their site that does that.
Haven't tried polls. I find internet polls to be completely useless at providing any real information. Regardless of the software involved.
Quote:

There are a number of issues with this mod. Admittedly, some of them are small, but a lot of them are pretty major.
Haven't really seen anything major. Occasionally, I get an application connect error when it tries to post to my wall but that is a Facebook issue. I get the same thing on Facebook's own site all the time. Even when OhioSweetheart had issues on the same site, I couldn't recreate them not matter what I tried.

Personally, I hope to install this but since it is a beta I haven't had the time to install a dedicated testbed before installing it on my live site. That it is still marked as installed on a decent number of sites means some people are using it without problem.

Ohiosweetheart 09-17-2009 05:56 PM

The one and only reason that I uninstalled this mod last night is because of the increasing amount of spam that comes through it. I am banning upwards of 6-10 spammers on any given day.

Yes I use Akismet, as well as Adrian's anti-spam mod, along with vBs other anti-spam features. Additionally, new members have to verify their email address, and new members can't post links in their posts or sigs until they've made 5 posts.

Doesn't matter. This mod does not obey permissions. They can log in using FB, yahoo and google friends and spam to their hearts' content.

This is why I uninstalled it.

@ Wayne. Alot of people have uninstalled it. They just don't always come back here to change it to uninstalled.

puertoblack2003 09-17-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart (Post 1886514)
The one and only reason that I uninstalled this mod last night is because of the increasing amount of spam that comes through it. I am banning upwards of 6-10 spammers on any given day.

Yes I use Akismet, as well as Adrian's anti-spam mod, along with vBs other anti-spam features. Additionally, new members have to verify their email address, and new members can't post links in their posts or sigs until they've made 5 posts.

Doesn't matter. This mod does not obey permissions. They can log in using FB, yahoo and google friends and spam to their hearts' content.

This is why I uninstalled it.


yep i too, uninstalled it..to many spammers !!!!!

benjaminkramer 09-18-2009 08:32 AM

Is it possible to set, that only already registered users can connect with their facebook account?

Calash 09-18-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjaminkramer (Post 1886879)
Is it possible to set, that only already registered users can connect with their facebook account?

It is a function of the mod. They will need to logout, then login using the Facebook button for the first time. Once in they can link the account by entering their local username and password.


http://carblog.com/vbnexus/user-guide/

popowich 09-18-2009 11:58 AM

The second step directions appear to be incomplete :

Quote:

Validation failed.

Base Domain is not valid. Connect URL must be derived from your Base Domain.
The connect URL is based on the base domain.

the second line is connect to authentication tab, then..

I put the link to the forums in the post authorize field.

Adrian Schneider 09-18-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calash (Post 1886698)
Agree 100%. If the tags here are to mean anything to us end-users they need to be enforced. This mod is unsupported by every definition of the word.

I agree, but since when have they been enforced? It seems like most people are only mad about this because it's from IB. Don't hold them any higher than you would anybody else here or you will be disappointed.

Hopefully they are able to work on some of the issues discussed here and update it. Obviously it has been hurting their credibility a little.

ExplosiveGFX 09-19-2009 12:14 AM

Well, I couldn't get the "Facebook Connect" mod from here to work (which also has terrible support on it, seeing as people are +++++ing about support, even tho mods are free), so I installed this on my site and it worked fist time, I have experienced NO ERRORS so far. I followed the readme to the letter and everything turned out fine...

ZiG 09-19-2009 06:48 AM

you know the table with the facebook connect and it says
"New! Use your Facebook, Google, AIM & Yaho..."
where do i go to edit the text in that table? or what class is that table (alt1,alt2,thead?) so i can modify it a bit?


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